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	<title>Comments on: Act now to stop unaccountable, censor-friendly UN agency from hijacking control of the&#160;Internet!</title>
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		<title>By: Kuzimu Comic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1587278</link>
		<dc:creator>Kuzimu Comic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re probably right. Maybe we should go Tor route or mobile VPN (like Pirate Bay)? Just like music and movie industry model, once the corporations get the internets, they&#039;ll probably carve it up and pump away til the well drys up.


The internet is a network of infinitely complex communications, just like the human brain. And like the human brain, while parts are specialised it is only effective as it is because of its structural adaptability, which is non-hierarchical in nature. The proposed treaty adds such hierarchical mechanisms that will harm, rather than assist its effectiveness.  
Same is true of music, probably why services like Spotify, Soundcloud, Youtube etc. took off so hugely. People just prefer networks to top-down systems. But profit-orientated business espoused by baby-boomers and the ilk obviously prefer the opposite. This is further proof that corporations are not people, or anything like people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably right. Maybe we should go Tor route or mobile VPN (like Pirate Bay)? Just like music and movie industry model, once the corporations get the internets, they&#8217;ll probably carve it up and pump away til the well drys up.</p>
<p>The internet is a network of infinitely complex communications, just like the human brain. And like the human brain, while parts are specialised it is only effective as it is because of its structural adaptability, which is non-hierarchical in nature. The proposed treaty adds such hierarchical mechanisms that will harm, rather than assist its effectiveness.  <br />
Same is true of music, probably why services like Spotify, Soundcloud, Youtube etc. took off so hugely. People just prefer networks to top-down systems. But profit-orientated business espoused by baby-boomers and the ilk obviously prefer the opposite. This is further proof that corporations are not people, or anything like people. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1586054</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man doesn&#039;t need much to survive. A hut, a bowl of oatmeal gruel, and some firewood will do plenty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man doesn&#8217;t need much to survive. A hut, a bowl of oatmeal gruel, and some firewood will do plenty.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Ann Rose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Ann Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Surely you mean, &quot;The UN sucks money...&quot; - NOT &quot;The US sucks money&quot;  As a US tax payer whose money is being sucked to,among other things, distribute to other countries, I kinda resent the way you wrote that sentence.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Surely you mean, &#8220;The UN sucks money&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; NOT &#8220;The US sucks money&#8221;  As a US tax payer whose money is being sucked to,among other things, distribute to other countries, I kinda resent the way you wrote that sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Bösch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584189</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian Bösch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 07:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Open Internet is not in danger. The Brightnet (the one where any censorware can shine a light into) is in danger. And good riddance. The darknet is very much alive and kicking, the one nobody will be able to control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Open Internet is not in danger. The Brightnet (the one where any censorware can shine a light into) is in danger. And good riddance. The darknet is very much alive and kicking, the one nobody will be able to control.</p>
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		<title>By: rtb61</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584164</link>
		<dc:creator>rtb61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> This UN discussion is all about domain names, not the internet which is IP address and soon to be IPv6 address where each and every piece of hardware for hundreds of thousands of years could have a unique address.
Domain names has become a mess with it being privatised and abused to increase profits.
So new laws, distributed controls, treaties, mirrors etc to control and distribute the income from core domain names and an end to  the ludicrous notion of the US government being the world government as it currently portrays itself on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> This UN discussion is all about domain names, not the internet which is IP address and soon to be IPv6 address where each and every piece of hardware for hundreds of thousands of years could have a unique address.<br />
Domain names has become a mess with it being privatised and abused to increase profits.<br />
So new laws, distributed controls, treaties, mirrors etc to control and distribute the income from core domain names and an end to  the ludicrous notion of the US government being the world government as it currently portrays itself on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Orvin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584109</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Orvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An industry-destroying bauble is quite a bauble, according to your babble. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An industry-destroying bauble is quite a bauble, according to your babble. </p>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584106</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you can give up computers, cell phones, and even jet aircraft too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you can give up computers, cell phones, and even jet aircraft too.</p>
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		<title>By: F D M</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584102</link>
		<dc:creator>F D M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a weird comment.    Your lack of insight, which you try to pass off as worldly, is breathtaking.  Try traveling.   Maybe you&#039;ll see how important the Internet is to a huge amount of people, even, actually especially, in less developed areas.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a weird comment.    Your lack of insight, which you try to pass off as worldly, is breathtaking.  Try traveling.   Maybe you&#8217;ll see how important the Internet is to a huge amount of people, even, actually especially, in less developed areas.   </p>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584103</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are millions of content providers, only one internet. Content providers need to provide a service to get money. The US sucks money from goverments, who need not provide any service at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are millions of content providers, only one internet. Content providers need to provide a service to get money. The US sucks money from goverments, who need not provide any service at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Orvin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584099</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Orvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to mention, economic rights are at the core of human rights. Remember the guy who set himself on fire in Tunisia. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to mention, economic rights are at the core of human rights. Remember the guy who set himself on fire in Tunisia. </p>
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		<title>By: HopeyChangey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1584065</link>
		<dc:creator>HopeyChangey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was alive before the internet. I&#039;m still alive and will be if the internet entirely disappears. For most people, the net is a bauble. It has benefitted industries, destroyed others. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was alive before the internet. I&#8217;m still alive and will be if the internet entirely disappears. For most people, the net is a bauble. It has benefitted industries, destroyed others. </p>
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		<title>By: Maxwell Jump</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583971</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxwell Jump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean we used to have a long established tradition of ignoring UN treaties.  We now have a President who&#039;s probably eyeing the top spot at the UN once he&#039;s out of office here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean we used to have a long established tradition of ignoring UN treaties.  We now have a President who&#8217;s probably eyeing the top spot at the UN once he&#8217;s out of office here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Butler</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583902</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the US so I&#039;m not worried, we have a long established tradition of ignoring UN treaties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the US so I&#8217;m not worried, we have a long established tradition of ignoring UN treaties.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Ewing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583624</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Ewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, because the order of items listed in a sentence directly correlates with the morals and values of its writer (see - clearly I place morals above values, &#039;cause I said it first).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, because the order of items listed in a sentence directly correlates with the morals and values of its writer (see &#8211; clearly I place morals above values, &#8217;cause I said it first).</p>
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		<title>By: SedanChair</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583527</link>
		<dc:creator>SedanChair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;grave consequences for businesses and human rights&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting to put businesses before human rights...I think we need to know where Fight for the Future&#039;s funding is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>grave consequences for businesses and human rights</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting to put businesses before human rights&#8230;I think we need to know where Fight for the Future&#8217;s funding is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583518</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s to spark a regime change via boycotting for a private company then it is to push for a regime change in Russia or China (the two countries pushing for the changes at WCIT)... just ask Pussy Riot or Chen Guangcheng.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s to spark a regime change via boycotting for a private company then it is to push for a regime change in Russia or China (the two countries pushing for the changes at WCIT)&#8230; just ask Pussy Riot or Chen Guangcheng.</p>
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		<title>By: Adams Flekken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583514</link>
		<dc:creator>Adams Flekken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a misleading post such as the video. There is no censorship or hijacking nowhere near this treaty. Check this Reddit discussion where this was well commented and described:  http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1308t6/on_december_3_world_governments_will_meet_to/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a misleading post such as the video. There is no censorship or hijacking nowhere near this treaty. Check this Reddit discussion where this was well commented and described:  <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1308t6/on_december_3_world_governments_will_meet_to/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1308t6/on_december_3_world_governments_will_meet_to/</a></p>
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		<title>By: xzzy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/act-now-to-stop-unaccountable.html#comment-1583495</link>
		<dc:creator>xzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is any of what they&#039;re seeking any different than what content providers are spending billions all over the world getting  implemented right now?

The internet is screwed no matter what we do.. this frontier is gonna get tamed one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is any of what they&#8217;re seeking any different than what content providers are spending billions all over the world getting  implemented right now?</p>
<p>The internet is screwed no matter what we do.. this frontier is gonna get tamed one way or another.</p>
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