Comments on: Do all roads lead to the Wasp in Iron Man 3 (and The Avengers 2)?

By: Jonah Gibson

Jonah Gibson — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:07:00 +0000

No one ever seems to mention the fact that she looks exactly how I would envision The Wasp in real life. The thought of having her aboard the Marvel Cinematic Universe as anyone but the Wasp would be farcical. Even if they cast someone else who does a great job as Jan we will always look back and think, “Why didn’t they just get Szotack to play The Wasp?” It would be like casting Samuel L. Jackson as a random S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. There’s no way they would cast someone so perfect for one role as anything else.

By: Justin Sumner

Justin Sumner — Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:39:00 +0000

Oh, yeah. Gizmoduck. I don’t know if they can use Gizmoduck and make Iron Man winning be believable though. and America won’t like the Hero Losing.

By: acerplatanoides

acerplatanoides — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:41:00 +0000

Well we had to leave SOME of the arms business to Eastasia just to be sporting. :P

By: Baldhead

Baldhead — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:15:00 +0000

My trouble with Wasp was always how the writers had to frequently do massive contortions to come up with reasons why she wasn’t 100% useless in this crisis.

By: Dlo Burns

Dlo Burns — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:34:00 +0000

I dunno, she’s usually the first person to literally get up in a villain’s grill.

Although she does embody the old sexist ideal of ‘men heroically smash and women attack from afar for safety’

By: Dlo Burns

Dlo Burns — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:30:00 +0000

Like ‘die-die’ or just a mere ‘comic book death’?

By: Dlo Burns

Dlo Burns — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:29:00 +0000

That’s funny, ‘spacial-distortion’ bothers me less than ‘infinite energy from nowhere’.

By: Dlo Burns

Dlo Burns — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:24:00 +0000

More recent or silver age? Because the was the (very good) Extremis story recently.

By: Keith Coppage

Keith Coppage — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:36:00 +0000

Love Hank and Jan, hope they’re in, but not holding my breath. Ironic an Ant Man movie is up when actually in Avengers lore it’s always been the Wasp who’s been more popular (I would think, she’s in hundreds of issues).

By: Tim Boyer

Tim Boyer — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 05:37:00 +0000

I think Iron Man is going to die in this film

By: Romeo Vitelli

Romeo Vitelli — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:30:00 +0000

The Wasp isn’t a particularly kickass female character though, is she? She shrinks to the size of a gnat and and can shoot tiny bolts and, um, that’s it really. Better they bring in the She-Hulk (who was also an Avenger for a while). Not only is she awesome but they don’t even have to invent a whole new backstory for her.

By: rocketjockey

rocketjockey — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 02:34:00 +0000

Isn’t more like he’s fighting his fathers legacy? Obi was Howard Starks partner who then sold weapons to terrorists and eventually went apesh** as the iron monger. Ivan Vanko’s father co-developed the arc reactor with Howard then Ivan took revenge. Tony had a small part in Obi’s turn but he was really Howard’s man.

By: Lady Viridis

Lady Viridis — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 02:29:00 +0000

Given that the same world with Tony Stark’s technology also has straight-up magic from Asgard, plus a single genetic “mutation” that grants all kinds of wildly different powers… yeah, miracle tech and/or genetic modification that can make someone shrink or grow is okay with me. It’s really no more or less ridiculous than any of the various mutant powers.

By: Lady Viridis

Lady Viridis — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 02:26:00 +0000

I don’t know, I’m totally on board with the idea that Tony Stark is pretty much his own worst enemy. But I’ve always been a fan of flawed heroes.

By: Timmo Warner

Timmo Warner — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:24:00 +0000

This might sound dumb, but having the Wasp in Avengers goes a little bit too far for me. I have a hard time imagining the movie’s Tony Stark in a world where people can grow and shrink that much.

I realize The Hulk already does this somewhat but it just seems different in scale.

Hopefully if things are handled as well as the first Avengers I’ll end up loving it.

If it’s true she’s in it at all.

By: Yaanu

Yaanu — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:51:00 +0000

It’s not so much a direct synchronization of universes as it is a more subtle altering of events to coincidentally coincide with the films. When the Avengers movie came out, they also released a series called “Avengers Assemble” that was in-universe and had an Avengers team that consisted of the film’s characters (Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, and Black Widow) doing a bunch of crap that I didn’t actually read. But the comic also re-introduced a previously deceased Thanos in a clear ploy to bring him back in time for Avengers 2.

The same thing happened with the Guardians of the Galaxy, resurrecting a dead character (Star-Lord) in time for a brand new Guardians of the Galaxy comic series. Interestingly, another character who died along with Thanos and Star-Lord, Richard Rider (Nova), was NOT brought back to life. Instead, they opted to replace him with a NEW Nova, a younger character named Sam Alexander. There has yet to be an in-universe explanation as to why Thanos and Star-Lord were brought back, but Rider was not.

Also there’s a new series coming out from Marvel with Hawkeye, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Agent Coulson, and Maria Hill. If that doesn’t scream “Subtle Movie Tie-In Cash Cow”, then I don’t know what else would.

By: Ryan_T_H

Ryan_T_H — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:42:00 +0000

She is and Captain America isn’t. He got added a couple issues in.

By: Ryan_T_H

Ryan_T_H — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:40:00 +0000

Marvel has been universally awful about synchronizing their comics to the movies. They have yet to have a single movie come out where there is a comic you can point to and say “If you liked the movie, try reading this comic”.

When the Avengers movie, the largest movie of the year, came out they were in the middle of a giant company crossover called Avengers vs. X-Men. If someone who liked the movie had picked it up they would have found a group of Avengers that don’t share any resemblance to the movie fighting a group of X-Men who don’t bear any resemblance to the group appearing in those movies. Oh, and several characters would be in the wrong group. And they are all fighting in response to a story that was published over thirty years ago.

Way to build your reader base guys. Synergy!

At least that’s better than Thor. When his movie came out, he was dead at the time.

By: Gendun

Gendun — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:19:00 +0000

Huh, did not know she was an original member.

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:19:00 +0000

Logical, maybe… but not much of a heroic storyline as such things go.

“Gosh, Mr. Stark! If it hadn’t been for you we might have all been killed by all those weapons you created! I mean, SOME of us were killed anyway, but it was nice of you to save the rest of us from your terrible, terrible inventions.”

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:59:00 +0000

Well we had to leave SOME of the arms business to the Russians just to be sporting.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:54:00 +0000

cf: weaponization of half the countries in the Middle East.

By: Halloween_Jack

Halloween_Jack — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:42:00 +0000

Both noticed and appreciated as logical. I mean, what are the odds that two people would have invented superpowered flying suits of armor at the same time?

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:32:00 +0000

Pretty sure that was Gizmoduck.

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:24:00 +0000

It’s a surprisingly common plot device for action movies. At least half the spy thrillers out there seem to be about an elite, well-funded covert agency trying to stop a nefarious plot by one of their own former agents.

By: Yaanu

Yaanu — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:22:00 +0000

Item 6: They recently re-introduced Janet’s character to the comics universe in “Avengers” #32. One could mark it off as a coincidence, but Marvel has always liked to synchronize their comics universe with their movies universes, from Spider-Man’s organic webbing to quietly replacing the original Nick Fury with the one that says “badass motherfucker”.

By: Justin Sumner

Justin Sumner — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:20:00 +0000

Zeke Stane! That’s who I want to see.

By: acerplatanoides

acerplatanoides — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:15:00 +0000

Tony’s not very self-aware. You should have seen that coming.

By: Justin Sumner

Justin Sumner — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:15:00 +0000

Who’s the villian that has a suit similar to Iron Man, but it’s mostly Biological technology, and software upgrades. I think it might’ve been just something like Iron Man II, but I could be wrong.

By: Xploder

Xploder — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:06:00 +0000

I mentioned that fact to a friend and he told me flat out that I was full of crap. Then I showed him how right I was…he hasn’t spoken to me since then…