Comments on: Petraeus: if you think the FBI has broad email snooping powers, get a load of their phone-spying http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1588360 cdh1971 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1588360 In speech, America freedoms you! In speech, America freedoms you!

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586713 AnthonyC Tue, 20 Nov 2012 00:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586713 In Russia is freedom of speech. In America is also freedom after speech. In Russia is freedom of speech. In America is also freedom after speech.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586682 acerplatanoides Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586682  absolutely. (see what I did there?)  absolutely. (see what I did there?)

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586481 Cowicide Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586481 That's strange... after all these years of fighting for our "freedoms", you'd think we'd have more freedoms.  I wonder <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASUAEZdb-dw" rel="nofollow">what went wrong</a>? Shouldn't we be swimming in "freedoms" by now? That’s strange… after all these years of fighting for our “freedoms”, you’d think we’d have more freedoms.  I wonder what went wrong?

Shouldn’t we be swimming in “freedoms” by now?

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586299 EH Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586299 No court is ever going to enable a citizen to bring a course of action because they didn't expect something to occur.  No court is ever going to enable a citizen to bring a course of action because they didn’t expect something to occur. 

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586296 EH Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586296 There are non-cash forms of compensation that can be involved here, even to the point of being a pro for some past quid. Keeping in mind the six-month waiting period for free access to third-party storage of communications without a warrant and the time period during which the FBI agent was making noises about Petraeus, let's look at another finish line that was recently crossed: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/10/supreme_court_telco_spying_immunity/ Even so, it doesn't have to be politically motivated, it can be motivated by simple power, i.e. "because we can." The Petraeus case is a true harbinger. There are non-cash forms of compensation that can be involved here, even to the point of being a pro for some past quid. Keeping in mind the six-month waiting period for free access to third-party storage of communications without a warrant and the time period during which the FBI agent was making noises about Petraeus, let’s look at another finish line that was recently crossed:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/10/supreme_court_telco_spying_immunity/

Even so, it doesn’t have to be politically motivated, it can be motivated by simple power, i.e. “because we can.” The Petraeus case is a true harbinger.

]]> By: ComradeQuestions http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586278 ComradeQuestions Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586278 There needs to be some legislation defining exactly what a "reasonable expectation of privacy" is.  Namely, "anything that you don't expect to be made public".  Saying that you don't expect privacy because some third party is transmitting your conversations is insane. There needs to be some legislation defining exactly what a “reasonable expectation of privacy” is.  Namely, “anything that you don’t expect to be made public”.  Saying that you don’t expect privacy because some third party is transmitting your conversations is insane.

]]> By: lemonkid http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586257 lemonkid Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586257 I don't think it's politically motivated.. generating these reports costs Telcos a lot of money.. they will still provide customers with the info, but because it costs money, that's why they have the hoops. I don’t think it’s politically motivated.. generating these reports costs Telcos a lot of money.. they will still provide customers with the info, but because it costs money, that’s why they have the hoops.

]]> By: magoldman http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586252 magoldman Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586252 Peter also appeared on this Week's On the Media talking about this same topic.  http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/nov/16/will-petraeus-scandal-be-good-privacy/ Peter also appeared on this Week’s On the Media talking about this same topic. 
http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/nov/16/will-petraeus-scandal-be-good-privacy/

]]> By: Bloo http://boingboing.net/2012/11/19/petraeus-if-you-think-the-fbi.html#comment-1586250 Bloo Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194972#comment-1586250 I'm betting BoingBoing has noticed this before, but it's a good time to remind people of this: http://zfoneproject.com/ I’m betting BoingBoing has noticed this before, but it’s a good time to remind people of this:
http://zfoneproject.com/

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