Comments on: Russell Brand interviews two members of the Westboro Baptist Church

By: Andy Reilly

Andy Reilly — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:40:00 +0000

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic about people who think body language is somehow pseudoscience. Or you think it’s pseudoscience but still want to know what his body language is saying, but you need to provide a disclaimer just incase someone down-thread calls it pseudoscience. If you ever work with pack animals like dogs, you’ll find non-verbal communication is quite real. That’s if you doubt that it’s real, which I can’t tell from the confusing comment above.

By: Syn -

Syn - — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:45:00 +0000

Ha! Im fascinated how the body language of the maniac in the right seat changes when the gay men enter the scene. Is anybody educated enough in that pseudoscience to tell me what’s going on through his head?

By: Theo Grace

Theo Grace — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:15:00 +0000

Having missed it before it was pulled I am guessing, but believe this is the same. From Russel’s channel… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fvrPfe-Gzs

By: Syn -

Syn - — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:14:00 +0000

I saw it right before it was plugged by fox… is there a mirror anywhere? I want to spread it around.

By: Siobhan Moor3

Siobhan Moor3 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:33:00 +0000

Ah (empirical, archeological) history. Shame none of the Christian folks I know care to know anything about it.. I suppose they’ll learn one day. There’s a saying which goes: “some people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.” I feel rather sorry for them, actually.

By: Siobhan Moor3

Siobhan Moor3 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:25:00 +0000

Russel did a great job here. He didn’t sink to their level, and he also let them be who they are (whatever that is…).

These two WB men serve as examples of what happens to us all when we cling too steadfastly to our own beliefs and opinions; our tunnel vision. These men are lessons for us all.

By: gamophyte

gamophyte — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:13:00 +0000

Agreed, and I read somewhere that these off-shoot sects start from the mind of us against them. The more isolated and hated the more, I imagine, they will be feverishly obliged to continue. I think the right way is this way, where RB let them speak and acknowledged them as people. The case was stated and countered, and I think this light chips away at the fever.

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:08:00 +0000

Works for me. Now we just need to get the media on board.

By: Brett Myers

Brett Myers — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:25:00 +0000

As he said in the interview, warning you that you’re going to hell is how they love you like they love themselves.

By: Ms. Anne Thrope

Ms. Anne Thrope — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:32:00 +0000

Half way through this video I realized that everything the WBers were quoting IS from the OT/NT KJV of the Bible. This is the text used by most Southern Baptists and the basis for the modern Bible translations used by the majority of Protestants in the US. What occurred to me was that these people, the WBers, are actually closer to following the Bible than others. We non-followers joke about the verses that say do not eat shell fish and do not mix fabrics, but it’s really all in there. The raping of virgins, the disemboweling of the enemy, and the stoning of homosexuals, and more-alongside the feel good love thy neighbor stuff. The problem today is that most Christians don’t realize that ALL this is in the Bible and the majority of those see the Bible as the word of god, therefore the guiding force in their beliefs. If Christians really understood how repugnant this text is and that by accepting the text as infallable, they are embracing ideas which modern society sees as repugnant- slavery, homphobia, woman as submissive… Christians need to look at what they have signed up for. They should study their religious text and see what’s really in there, all of it. What most namby pamby “spiritual, not religious” types which can’t let go of the holy book and still call themselves Christian are in the words of their own text “lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I (god) will spue thee out of my mouth.” The Westboro folks hold closer to the Bible than most and if you find their expressions repulsive, then you should find the Bible repulsive. Consider this from a former Southern Baptist born again, Christian school survivor, now atheist.

By: kqih

kqih — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:43:00 +0000

:-D Russel Brand is good. + I love the english accent !

edit: he’s very good and funny !
edit2: bloody shit, the video is bipped. This was not aired in Uk? They also bip in Uk?

By: Noctilucent Studios

Noctilucent Studios — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:34:00 +0000

Russell Brand is pure AWESOME. He is the living embodiment of Blake’s “The road of excess leads to the Palace of Wisdom”

By: fergus1948

fergus1948 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:56:00 +0000

Why didn’t god invent on OFF switch for Russell Brand?

By: hamishmacdonald

hamishmacdonald — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:33:00 +0000

Hear hear! Plus, even if one were to take these texts at their word and devote their entire life to them, you'd think they'd have the curiosity to do, say, ten minutes of research into the original languages they were supposed to have been translated from. At this point they'd discover there are no words in Aramaic or ancient Hebrew for consensual same-sex relationships. Oh, there are lots for rape, incest, prostitution, and so on, but as the saying goes, "The Bible has as much to say about gay marriage as it does about international air-travel." Sure, I have a gay horse in this race, but these folk seem to be driven entirely by unexamined fears, whereas the opposition makes better, if debatable, arguments to Westboro's hang-ups, like: - actually, lots of animals in the wild have been seen engaging in same-sex fun. Not just a few; more like 450. - same-sex marriages used to be a Christian rite - the "traditional" family these folks like to sanctify is a recent invention (hell, even Jesus's parents weren't married), and life for straight people is not falling apart because of gay marriages

By: Uppitynproud

Uppitynproud — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:36:00 +0000

The King James version of bible was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England.

They were (and still are) no original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down hundreds of years after the last alleged ‘apostle’ would have died. There are over 8000 of these old manuscripts, with no two alike.

The King James translators used none of these, anyway. Instead, they edited previous translations to create a version their king and parliament would approve.

So, 21st century Christians believe the ‘word of god’ is a book edited in the 17th century from 16th century translations of 8000 contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st century.

That is not faith. That is insanity.

By: cameronhorsburgh

cameronhorsburgh — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:44:00 +0000

Something along the lines of Romans 12:20-21 perhaps?

… “if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink; for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

By: marilove

marilove — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:37:00 +0000

“Why should we allow bigots to have a stage?”

You mean like MITT ROMNEY, the man who almost became president, who once said, AND I QUOTE:

’Some Gays Are Actually Having Children. It’s Not Right on Paper. It’s Not Right in Fact.’

I think it’s perfectly fine to laugh at these idiots, if only because it helps us feel a little better when we consider that we have serious presidential nominees who are just as bigoted.

By: Anon_Mahna

Anon_Mahna — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:24:00 +0000

Westboro Baptist Cult. more accuracy, same initials

By: C W

C W — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:43:00 +0000

Mocking them to their faces doesn’t change a damn thing, it brings you down to their level.

By: C W

C W — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:38:00 +0000

Louis Theroux’s specials on them were very well done, and didn’t give them much encouragement.

By: Moonpie Nobot

Moonpie Nobot — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:24:00 +0000

This isn’t about their negativity. This is about Brand’s positivity.

By: chgoliz

chgoliz — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:51:00 +0000

Well, *a* Lord, at least. If that really is your surname.

By: Richard Lord

Richard Lord — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:46:00 +0000

Claiming a book is the word of God is worshiping a book and not God!!!! IDOLATERS they worship a book they will burn in the fires of hell wailing and nashing of teeth. Book worshiping idoloters YES they are trolls as well. This is the word of The Lord

By: Velocirapt42

Velocirapt42 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:30:00 +0000

Oooh, that’s an interesting thought. They ARE loving us as they love themselves, because they hate themselves and all their sinful thoughts, and really they want someone to picket THEIR funeral with disgusting signs and then sue their relatives for fighting back. How Freudian!

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:44:00 +0000

But most of the time an organization has to expand beyond a single familial group who all live together in a compound before the rest of the world acknowledges them as a “church,” even if that’s a term they use to describe themselves. How many mainstream media outlets referred to the Branch Davidians as a “church?”

By: chgoliz

chgoliz — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:34:00 +0000

Slacktivist has a thread on this too. Fred does a good job of explaining how Brand’s demeanor is actually very savvy on a number of levels: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/11/20/westboro-baptist-teaches-that-jesus-failed/

By: lewis_stoole

lewis_stoole — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:33:00 +0000

this is why i obsessively wash my hands–to clean off the disgust i frequently catch from others
i feel their “pain”

By: lewis_stoole

lewis_stoole — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:32:00 +0000

this is why i obsessively wash my hands–to clean off the disgust i frequently catch from others
i feel their “pain” **

**(actually, i clicked and clocked on the wrong link, sorry tecnogeekagain, this was meant for boundegar and his evil minions of gar)

By: kraut

kraut — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:30:00 +0000

http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

Either you go the whole old testament way and see if you can join orthodox jewry; or you go new testament. “Love your neighbour as yourself.”

It’s not really a pick and choose menu. But maybe the WBC crowd just really hate themselves?

On an unrelated note, is there some sort of Taliban/WBC alliance? They do seem to have very similar aims

By: lewis_stoole

lewis_stoole — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:29:00 +0000

it depends on if there is a troll behind the pulpit