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		<title>By: Buddha Buck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1594171</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddha Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in high school, one biology demonstration that had been used for a couple of years by that point was a mason jar filled with water, rocks, a couple of fish, and a few plants, then sealed.  Even though the jars had been sealed for over a year before I joined that class, the fish and plants were still alive.  I&#039;m sure a similar thing could be arranged, for a long-term microgravity experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in high school, one biology demonstration that had been used for a couple of years by that point was a mason jar filled with water, rocks, a couple of fish, and a few plants, then sealed.  Even though the jars had been sealed for over a year before I joined that class, the fish and plants were still alive.  I&#8217;m sure a similar thing could be arranged, for a long-term microgravity experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: ashabot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashabot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a point. Thanks. </description>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592491</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swift move. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592488</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;Blockquote&gt; Also, it is resentment against a specific behavior, we happen to call it German.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh my. I&#039;m not sure what to make of this line. &quot;As we happen to call it in German&quot;, or are you calling your resentments a German thing? And what, specifically? And then, what &quot;totality&quot; are you referring to in the next line? Is that German people, at large?

First, you show your prejudices when pushing the antisemitic button, and fail to express anything specific, and then you can&#039;t even express yourself properly? And not even get the facts straight? See, Zak McKracken said close friends of his had bad experiences in Germany as foreigners. Not that his friends showed any resentments. There were prejudices and stereotypes used against them. 
But then, pray, what brings you from a zero-G Carassius auratus to your hateful comments in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Also, it is resentment against a specific behavior, we happen to call it German.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh my. I&#8217;m not sure what to make of this line. &#8220;As we happen to call it in German&#8221;, or are you calling your resentments a German thing? And what, specifically? And then, what &#8220;totality&#8221; are you referring to in the next line? Is that German people, at large?</p>
<p>First, you show your prejudices when pushing the antisemitic button, and fail to express anything specific, and then you can&#8217;t even express yourself properly? And not even get the facts straight? See, Zak McKracken said close friends of his had bad experiences in Germany as foreigners. Not that his friends showed any resentments. There were prejudices and stereotypes used against them.<br />
But then, pray, what brings you from a zero-G Carassius auratus to your hateful comments in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592459</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is anti-German resentment, but there are also complex and real experiences fueling it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Care to share? Otherwise, you just pull another Goodwin. Not even a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is anti-German resentment, but there are also complex and real experiences fueling it. </p></blockquote>
<p>Care to share? Otherwise, you just pull another Goodwin. Not even a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592450</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Naa, that&#039;s a classic Goodwin. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Naa, that&#8217;s a classic Goodwin. </p>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592447</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need: the experimental flight phase does not last very long. Given the size of the fish, it would not have been a problem. But then, the point of the experiment was possibly also orientation in relation to a water surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need: the experimental flight phase does not last very long. Given the size of the fish, it would not have been a problem. But then, the point of the experiment was possibly also orientation in relation to a water surface.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592441</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be the case that plastic bags could be a security risk if ripped open. To some equipment on board, that is. And to the fish, naturally. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be the case that plastic bags could be a security risk if ripped open. To some equipment on board, that is. And to the fish, naturally. </p>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592437</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just btw, did you you know the experimenters used to get drugged to be allowed on these flights with amphetamines and Scopolamine derivatives at the same time? Most of them enjoyed this as well...

And, of course, you are completely right about about the readjustment of perspective. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just btw, did you you know the experimenters used to get drugged to be allowed on these flights with amphetamines and Scopolamine derivatives at the same time? Most of them enjoyed this as well&#8230;</p>
<p>And, of course, you are completely right about about the readjustment of perspective. </p>
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		<title>By: happymeal</title>
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		<dc:creator>happymeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has already made it clear that he does not want to &quot;revisit any arguments.&quot; You can&#039;t reason someone out of a position they didn&#039;t reason themselves into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has already made it clear that he does not want to &#8220;revisit any arguments.&#8221; You can&#8217;t reason someone out of a position they didn&#8217;t reason themselves into.</p>
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		<title>By: Kramski</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592224</link>
		<dc:creator>Kramski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of Germans are translating the narrator&#039;s comments, but nobody comments on how artificial and terrible he sounds. The terribleness of his reading skills completely and utterly distracted me from the goldfish it is just that bad. Is that normal for N24? I thought at first it might be some easy language German program or maybe the narrator doesn&#039;t speak the language and is just reading off of a slip of paper. I am confused that nobody else was compelled to point that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of Germans are translating the narrator&#8217;s comments, but nobody comments on how artificial and terrible he sounds. The terribleness of his reading skills completely and utterly distracted me from the goldfish it is just that bad. Is that normal for N24? I thought at first it might be some easy language German program or maybe the narrator doesn&#8217;t speak the language and is just reading off of a slip of paper. I am confused that nobody else was compelled to point that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan J. Müller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan J. Müller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fish: What&#039;s up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fish: What&#8217;s up?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan J. Müller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592200</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan J. Müller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how the stress level compares to some more natural situations like swimming near a cascade. 

A goldfish might think it is cruel to put a human on a swing. And yet… </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the stress level compares to some more natural situations like swimming near a cascade. </p>
<p>A goldfish might think it is cruel to put a human on a swing. And yet… </p>
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		<title>By: Onigorom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592119</link>
		<dc:creator>Onigorom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I&#039;d known you in Germany and you started with such nonsense, I wouldn&#039;t have wanted to have anything to do with you either.&quot;

How then did you become and have stayed friends with your &quot;close friends&quot; that show the same resentment? Also, it is resentment against a specific behavior, we happen to call it German. It has nothing to do with the totality of people with a specific passport. I do have resentment against nationality as such, but that includes all nation states and is a different discussion.
And yes, disinterested sadism would be my term for practices that are detached from the notion of suffering and human interaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I&#8217;d known you in Germany and you started with such nonsense, I wouldn&#8217;t have wanted to have anything to do with you either.&#8221;</p>
<p>How then did you become and have stayed friends with your &#8220;close friends&#8221; that show the same resentment? Also, it is resentment against a specific behavior, we happen to call it German. It has nothing to do with the totality of people with a specific passport. I do have resentment against nationality as such, but that includes all nation states and is a different discussion.<br />
And yes, disinterested sadism would be my term for practices that are detached from the notion of suffering and human interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Clevername</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clevername</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> They could aerate it in between dives. Or use more water. Or pressurize it with an O2 enriched gas mix. The video is only 1:19 long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> They could aerate it in between dives. Or use more water. Or pressurize it with an O2 enriched gas mix. The video is only 1:19 long.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592061</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES! They should only do this with humans!

...oh wait, they have... turns out most of them enjoyed it...

Dude, get it! Most fish that are being kept by humans are not so lucky to get to fly in an aircraft, they are just killed and eaten. Or overfed by children who care too much. Or starved by lazy children. Or flushed down the toilet by children who take &quot;Finding Nemo&quot; too serious.

I&#039;m all for not dissecting sedated  cats and then using their still-beating heart to replace their blood by formalin in anatomy class. I&#039;m all for not testing anything on animals that can be tested otherwise, and all against killing animals for cosmetics or whatnot. _That_ is in fact disgusting.
... but this is trivial. The fish gets a rollercoaster ride and that&#039;s it. This is more in the &quot;letting the neighbour&#039;s kid play with your cat&quot; territory. If you can&#039;t see the difference, you might want to readjust your perspective.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES! They should only do this with humans!</p>
<p>&#8230;oh wait, they have&#8230; turns out most of them enjoyed it&#8230;</p>
<p>Dude, get it! Most fish that are being kept by humans are not so lucky to get to fly in an aircraft, they are just killed and eaten. Or overfed by children who care too much. Or starved by lazy children. Or flushed down the toilet by children who take &#8220;Finding Nemo&#8221; too serious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for not dissecting sedated  cats and then using their still-beating heart to replace their blood by formalin in anatomy class. I&#8217;m all for not testing anything on animals that can be tested otherwise, and all against killing animals for cosmetics or whatnot. _That_ is in fact disgusting.<br />
&#8230; but this is trivial. The fish gets a rollercoaster ride and that&#8217;s it. This is more in the &#8220;letting the neighbour&#8217;s kid play with your cat&#8221; territory. If you can&#8217;t see the difference, you might want to readjust your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigmund_Jung</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592053</link>
		<dc:creator>Sigmund_Jung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, that was good info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, that was good info.</p>
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		<title>By: airshowfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>airshowfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also not good to be a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTkFIE_-kL8#t=24s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;weightless cat or pigeon&lt;/a&gt;. Bob Hoover, of course, would have remained &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBcapxGHjE#t=145s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;unfazed&lt;/a&gt; ;]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also not good to be a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTkFIE_-kL8#t=24s" rel="nofollow">weightless cat or pigeon</a>. Bob Hoover, of course, would have remained <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBcapxGHjE#t=145s" rel="nofollow">unfazed</a> ;]<br />
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> As I observed above: The narrator _is_ bored, and he has to fill many minutes of documentary with meaningless words.
This is what that sounds like.

Several close friends of mine have had bad experiences in Germany as foreigners. The amount of resentment you are displaying is pretty much what those people (and me...) hate in Germans. &quot;Ahh, you&#039;re from Transsylvania! Haha, Vampires, haha!&quot;
Also, the premise of what you&#039;re saying there is that the sole purpose of this experiment was to somehow torture the fish? WTF?
You offend me on both accounts: Your prejudices against science and people based on their nationality. If I&#039;d known you in Germany and you started with such nonsense, I wouldn&#039;t have wanted to have anything to do with you either. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> As I observed above: The narrator _is_ bored, and he has to fill many minutes of documentary with meaningless words.<br />
This is what that sounds like.</p>
<p>Several close friends of mine have had bad experiences in Germany as foreigners. The amount of resentment you are displaying is pretty much what those people (and me&#8230;) hate in Germans. &#8220;Ahh, you&#8217;re from Transsylvania! Haha, Vampires, haha!&#8221;<br />
Also, the premise of what you&#8217;re saying there is that the sole purpose of this experiment was to somehow torture the fish? WTF?<br />
You offend me on both accounts: Your prejudices against science and people based on their nationality. If I&#8217;d known you in Germany and you started with such nonsense, I wouldn&#8217;t have wanted to have anything to do with you either. </p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592025</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That may be because the fish was not inside the bubble but before or behind it. Impossible to tell from that perspective</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be because the fish was not inside the bubble but before or behind it. Impossible to tell from that perspective</p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/it-is-not-good-to-be-a-weightl.html#comment-1592021</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the paper seems to support that. Part 20.3.2.2 is indeed about finding out which orientation the fish will keep in microgravity (answer: It uses the strongest light source as &quot;up&quot; -- if gravity and light source do not agree it uses some kind of average between both directions)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the paper seems to support that. Part 20.3.2.2 is indeed about finding out which orientation the fish will keep in microgravity (answer: It uses the strongest light source as &#8220;up&#8221; &#8212; if gravity and light source do not agree it uses some kind of average between both directions)</p>
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		<title>By: eldritch</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldritch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there are people who are totally disgusted by those who consume the flesh of animals. And no, they don&#039;t want to revisit the arguments for animal consumption. Screw meat eatters, right?

People who have the time, skill, and resources to go into space don&#039;t experiment like this to get a kick out of cruelty. They do it to try and learn things about the universe. A nobler goal than eatting merely to survive, no?

Everything suffers. Everything dies. Most of the time, such suffering serves absolutely no purpose. So if you want to be self-righteously furious at something, direct your rage at fate, or chance, or whatever whims of the universe dictate that living things should die needlessly all the time, by no fault of their own or of others. At least then your anger would have no senseless negative effect on the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there are people who are totally disgusted by those who consume the flesh of animals. And no, they don&#8217;t want to revisit the arguments for animal consumption. Screw meat eatters, right?</p>
<p>People who have the time, skill, and resources to go into space don&#8217;t experiment like this to get a kick out of cruelty. They do it to try and learn things about the universe. A nobler goal than eatting merely to survive, no?</p>
<p>Everything suffers. Everything dies. Most of the time, such suffering serves absolutely no purpose. So if you want to be self-righteously furious at something, direct your rage at fate, or chance, or whatever whims of the universe dictate that living things should die needlessly all the time, by no fault of their own or of others. At least then your anger would have no senseless negative effect on the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That experiement just basically just used as background footage for this so-called documentary. The narrator doesn&#039;t understand what it&#039;s about, he&#039;s just talking to fill the time.

N24 was originally a 24 hour news station, then they started airing old documentaries, then they started to produce some.
If you try to send information 24 hours a day, the density of useful stuff gets somewhat reduced :(

My take on the experiment: It shows how the fish is in fact able to evade the air bubble despite having no gravity. It also shows that the fish will not preserve its orientation (as opposed to other species who will try to keep their orientation relative to the environment constant, like humans).
I trust that whoever designed that experiment knew what they were doing, because there is usually some competition in order to get a slot on these flights. After having seen two documentaries of much about the place I used to work for, I do no longer, however, trust journalists to understand and properly communicate what the research is actually about. If all goes well it&#039;s superficially accurate. This one is superficial to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That experiement just basically just used as background footage for this so-called documentary. The narrator doesn&#8217;t understand what it&#8217;s about, he&#8217;s just talking to fill the time.</p>
<p>N24 was originally a 24 hour news station, then they started airing old documentaries, then they started to produce some.<br />
If you try to send information 24 hours a day, the density of useful stuff gets somewhat reduced :(</p>
<p>My take on the experiment: It shows how the fish is in fact able to evade the air bubble despite having no gravity. It also shows that the fish will not preserve its orientation (as opposed to other species who will try to keep their orientation relative to the environment constant, like humans).<br />
I trust that whoever designed that experiment knew what they were doing, because there is usually some competition in order to get a slot on these flights. After having seen two documentaries of much about the place I used to work for, I do no longer, however, trust journalists to understand and properly communicate what the research is actually about. If all goes well it&#8217;s superficially accurate. This one is superficial to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: gfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the ESA has run student experiment flights like NASA&#039;s Zero Gravity Student Flight Opportunity Program. Having done that twice, I feel comfortable admitting that the experiments are not always of the absolute highest scientific value. This could be along a similar vein. (Though a working freefall aquaponics system would be damned valuable to any long duration deep space mission. Working out some of the basic feasibility issues would actually make a pretty great little project.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the ESA has run student experiment flights like NASA&#8217;s Zero Gravity Student Flight Opportunity Program. Having done that twice, I feel comfortable admitting that the experiments are not always of the absolute highest scientific value. This could be along a similar vein. (Though a working freefall aquaponics system would be damned valuable to any long duration deep space mission. Working out some of the basic feasibility issues would actually make a pretty great little project.)</p>
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		<title>By: ashabot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashabot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally and thoroughly disgusted by people who experiment on animals in this fashion and no. I don&#039;t want to revisit the arguments for animal experimentation. Screw them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally and thoroughly disgusted by people who experiment on animals in this fashion and no. I don&#8217;t want to revisit the arguments for animal experimentation. Screw them.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The enemy&#039;s gate is down.</description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That are filled with half air, half water.</description>
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		<title>By: Lord Byte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Byte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also interesting regarding the plasticity of the brain in other creatures, when subjected to zero gravity. Will they completely fail or actually reason their locomotion to get back to safety. Cats for instance would pick a side, usually the bottom, and reorient themselves towards that in low gravity, giving us a look into how such animals react. The goldfish was always able to return to the water so it must have reasoned its movements out to get there, showing a remarkable adaptability for such a neurologically simple creature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also interesting regarding the plasticity of the brain in other creatures, when subjected to zero gravity. Will they completely fail or actually reason their locomotion to get back to safety. Cats for instance would pick a side, usually the bottom, and reorient themselves towards that in low gravity, giving us a look into how such animals react. The goldfish was always able to return to the water so it must have reasoned its movements out to get there, showing a remarkable adaptability for such a neurologically simple creature.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They sell them in little plastic bags.  
Evil, but they survive that.</description>
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Evil, but they survive that.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the fish occasionally getting away. On my second run through, I noticed that at one point the fish did get taken by surprise by the air bubble while moving too slowly for momentum to carry it back to the water around the edges. It did a WAY better job of orienting itself by thrashing and then &quot;swimming&quot; through air than I&#039;ve seen even the most veteran astronaut manage. For a situation COMPLETELY outside of the evolutionary niche the species evolved in, that fish was doing remarkably well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the fish occasionally getting away. On my second run through, I noticed that at one point the fish did get taken by surprise by the air bubble while moving too slowly for momentum to carry it back to the water around the edges. It did a WAY better job of orienting itself by thrashing and then &#8220;swimming&#8221; through air than I&#8217;ve seen even the most veteran astronaut manage. For a situation COMPLETELY outside of the evolutionary niche the species evolved in, that fish was doing remarkably well.</p>
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