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	<title>Comments on: Toronto mayor Rob Ford is&#160;out</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Connolly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592688</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah but do you think it&#039;s even a remote possibility that a US politician would be ousted over a $3,500 campaign contribution?

I mean, purportedly, Kwame Kilpatrick literally had someone murdered by his own police force. All Rob Ford had to do was take some money he wasn&#039;t supposed to.

EDIT: Sorry, it wasn&#039;t a campaign finance contribution. He was endorsing a fundraising campaign using the official City of Toronto logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but do you think it&#8217;s even a remote possibility that a US politician would be ousted over a $3,500 campaign contribution?</p>
<p>I mean, purportedly, Kwame Kilpatrick literally had someone murdered by his own police force. All Rob Ford had to do was take some money he wasn&#8217;t supposed to.</p>
<p>EDIT: Sorry, it wasn&#8217;t a campaign finance contribution. He was endorsing a fundraising campaign using the official City of Toronto logo.</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592248</link>
		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I hate to disagree with you but here in Flint, Michigan, we&#039;ve removed one mayor, Woodrow Stanley, and missed removing another, Don Williamson, by one day. Williamson &quot;retired for health reasons&quot; the day before the recall election. So, as you can see, it IS possible for US citizens to remove corrupt politicians. Also, as the person below me says, Kwame Kilpatrick was removed as Detroit&#039;s mayor. We may be a dying state here in Michigan but we at least TRY to get rid of the worst of the  moronic politicos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I hate to disagree with you but here in Flint, Michigan, we&#8217;ve removed one mayor, Woodrow Stanley, and missed removing another, Don Williamson, by one day. Williamson &#8220;retired for health reasons&#8221; the day before the recall election. So, as you can see, it IS possible for US citizens to remove corrupt politicians. Also, as the person below me says, Kwame Kilpatrick was removed as Detroit&#8217;s mayor. We may be a dying state here in Michigan but we at least TRY to get rid of the worst of the  moronic politicos.</p>
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		<title>By: gumbowing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592208</link>
		<dc:creator>gumbowing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone done a Rob Ford Der Untergang mashup yet?
I would, but I lack the skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone done a Rob Ford Der Untergang mashup yet?<br />
I would, but I lack the skill.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592172</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I would suspect him of being Doug Ford, except he can write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I would suspect him of being Doug Ford, except he can write.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592168</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could move to Fort Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could move to Fort Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Sirkowski</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592103</link>
		<dc:creator>Sirkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans have a much better track record than Canadians at removing corrupt politicians from office. What just happened in Toronto and previously in Montreal and Laval is the exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans have a much better track record than Canadians at removing corrupt politicians from office. What just happened in Toronto and previously in Montreal and Laval is the exception.</p>
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		<title>By: TNGMug</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592062</link>
		<dc:creator>TNGMug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, if anything this does play entirely into Rob Ford&#039;s hands.   And if anything, the judge was trying to avoid doing it.  But the wrong here was so blatant  that his hands were tied with respect to making any other ruling.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, if anything this does play entirely into Rob Ford&#8217;s hands.   And if anything, the judge was trying to avoid doing it.  But the wrong here was so blatant  that his hands were tied with respect to making any other ruling.  </p>
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		<title>By: TNGMug</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592056</link>
		<dc:creator>TNGMug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya that last one sounds if nothing else, like an idle threat that Toronto&#039;s politics is shifting.

&quot;Lefty&quot; is never used in self-reference.  It&#039;s little more then a reactionary sneer.  As an actually left-handed person I find it more then a little insulting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya that last one sounds if nothing else, like an idle threat that Toronto&#8217;s politics is shifting.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lefty&#8221; is never used in self-reference.  It&#8217;s little more then a reactionary sneer.  As an actually left-handed person I find it more then a little insulting.</p>
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		<title>By: TNGMug</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNGMug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want him.  I voted for Nenshi :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want him.  I voted for Nenshi :P</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592033</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I heard the same on the CBC this AM, but I couldn&#039;t be sure, was focussed on driving and singing to a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I heard the same on the CBC this AM, but I couldn&#8217;t be sure, was focussed on driving and singing to a child.</p>
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		<title>By: orangedesperado</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592005</link>
		<dc:creator>orangedesperado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sincerely Right Wing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sincerely Right Wing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: orangedesperado</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1592000</link>
		<dc:creator>orangedesperado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The suburbs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The suburbs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: orangedesperado</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591999</link>
		<dc:creator>orangedesperado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys forgot about the DUI, indecent exposure and embezzling. All at once, with the other four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys forgot about the DUI, indecent exposure and embezzling. All at once, with the other four.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591979</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; would be unvarnished gloating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js" rel="nofollow">This</a> would be unvarnished gloating.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Lenchner</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591970</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Lenchner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory, I really appreciate your unvarnished gloating. Appears to be utterly with merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory, I really appreciate your unvarnished gloating. Appears to be utterly with merit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591959</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think she just thought as I did, that the headline was referring to a Canadian politician coming out as gay, before reading the copy underneath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think she just thought as I did, that the headline was referring to a Canadian politician coming out as gay, before reading the copy underneath.</p>
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		<title>By: davidasposted</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591952</link>
		<dc:creator>davidasposted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, though sadly Toronto rarely seems to have multiple credible candidates in the mayoral race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, though sadly Toronto rarely seems to have multiple credible candidates in the mayoral race.</p>
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		<title>By: swlabr</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591905</link>
		<dc:creator>swlabr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a comment that the fine print of the court ruling does actually bar him from running in a by-election. He can run in the next election two years later. Sorry, I don&#039;t have the cite right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a comment that the fine print of the court ruling does actually bar him from running in a by-election. He can run in the next election two years later. Sorry, I don&#8217;t have the cite right now.</p>
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		<title>By: edkedz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591850</link>
		<dc:creator>edkedz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Ugh, no. Stop in Alberta and stay there, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Ugh, no. Stop in Alberta and stay there, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591838</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you&#039;ve made a total of four comments on BB.  They&#039;re all backhanded defenses of Rob Ford and they all use the word Left or Lefty with a capital L.  You identify as being a &quot;Lefty&quot;, a word usually used by reactionaries, while demeaning progressive voters.  One might almost wonder if you&#039;re entirely sincere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you&#8217;ve made a total of four comments on BB.  They&#8217;re all backhanded defenses of Rob Ford and they all use the word Left or Lefty with a capital L.  You identify as being a &#8220;Lefty&#8221;, a word usually used by reactionaries, while demeaning progressive voters.  One might almost wonder if you&#8217;re entirely sincere.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591810</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flagged for removal.  Probably by someone in his office who&#039;s being paid with tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flagged for removal.  Probably by someone in his office who&#8217;s being paid with tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591793</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Mel himself pointed out, Ford made him look like a genius.  Lastman at least built his own business up that he handed over to the kids after he became mayor.  Ford just got his life handed to him by daddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Mel himself pointed out, Ford made him look like a genius.  Lastman at least built his own business up that he handed over to the kids after he became mayor.  Ford just got his life handed to him by daddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;correct&quot; voters are those who will be governed by the outcome of the election.  Before the illegal amalgamation Toronto had, like every other Metropolis on the face of the earth, a borough system where local issues were decided locally and a area wide upper level for the Economies of Scale things.  Now it&#039;s a Winner-Take-All for the whole region and whoever wins gets to ram their priorities down the throats of everyone else at every level.  Amalgamation is a huge problem in that it deliberately imposed a completely unworkable system (show me one other one like it anywhere in the world) that has a bitter war over every mayor as only one of its insoluble problems.

Having said that, you other point below that Ford wouldn&#039;t have won had the rest of the field been about the quality of this year&#039;s GOP presidential hopefuls is quite true.  But whoever wins will have to pander to either the suburbs or the urban areas on micro-issues to get elected, thus spending their entire term being despised by half the electorate, and nothing will get done on area wide problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;correct&#8221; voters are those who will be governed by the outcome of the election.  Before the illegal amalgamation Toronto had, like every other Metropolis on the face of the earth, a borough system where local issues were decided locally and a area wide upper level for the Economies of Scale things.  Now it&#8217;s a Winner-Take-All for the whole region and whoever wins gets to ram their priorities down the throats of everyone else at every level.  Amalgamation is a huge problem in that it deliberately imposed a completely unworkable system (show me one other one like it anywhere in the world) that has a bitter war over every mayor as only one of its insoluble problems.</p>
<p>Having said that, you other point below that Ford wouldn&#8217;t have won had the rest of the field been about the quality of this year&#8217;s GOP presidential hopefuls is quite true.  But whoever wins will have to pander to either the suburbs or the urban areas on micro-issues to get elected, thus spending their entire term being despised by half the electorate, and nothing will get done on area wide problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591764</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numbers are not excuses. It&#039;s not in their range to be so.

Ford pandered to angry little everymen for his votes in any part of the city. His policy platform was practically nonexistent and what did exist was laughable. You can&#039;t sell nothing with a rate sheet or a schematic, you need &quot;Gravy&quot; and other pandering statements which amount to nothing. Some of the votes he got were voted against someone, which is not democratic. Some of the votes were people willing to accept nothing in exchange for their confidence. Fools.

Whether the votes in the suburbs were to the Right before amalgamation or because the votes in the suburbs were by persons willing to accept pandering hardly matters, right? Because it is likely both.

The only thinking people I know who voted for Ford did so specifically to shake shit up. IMO the only legitimate votes for Ford.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numbers are not excuses. It&#8217;s not in their range to be so.</p>
<p>Ford pandered to angry little everymen for his votes in any part of the city. His policy platform was practically nonexistent and what did exist was laughable. You can&#8217;t sell nothing with a rate sheet or a schematic, you need &#8220;Gravy&#8221; and other pandering statements which amount to nothing. Some of the votes he got were voted against someone, which is not democratic. Some of the votes were people willing to accept nothing in exchange for their confidence. Fools.</p>
<p>Whether the votes in the suburbs were to the Right before amalgamation or because the votes in the suburbs were by persons willing to accept pandering hardly matters, right? Because it is likely both.</p>
<p>The only thinking people I know who voted for Ford did so specifically to shake shit up. IMO the only legitimate votes for Ford.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Teeuwen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591754</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Teeuwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. Candidates have to realize that many of the people moving to Toronto these days and living on its edges are not Leftys and never have been. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. Candidates have to realize that many of the people moving to Toronto these days and living on its edges are not Leftys and never have been. </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;scuse, but look at teh election map for the race in question.

Now overlay a pre-amalgamation map.

Now consider how amalgamation came to be. Who, of what affiliation, rammed it through? Why?

Now consider where Bay Street &amp; other places of influence are. Is it the suburbs?

Go ahead and overlay a few previous mayoral elections, just to be sure. Go ahead and check the bona fides of the mayors outside Toronto pre-amalgamation.

As for what got Ford into office, it is a combination of his own doggedness and his father, who was an MPP and provided a comfortable sack of comfort to his boys, which allowed Rob to afford to run. That and he had little to no competition. 

He only began making life hell for everyone (not just the left) at City Hall after becoming Mayor. As a councillor he was inept, never passing anything of his own and opposing the work of others (ineffectually, like 43-1 ineffectually) and was generally good at filling potholes and pretending to work. He was laughed at. He would not be Mayor had the centre or left fielded a worthy candidate. He would not be Mayor if Tory had decided to take a stab at it. He fell into a hole, that&#039;s how he became Mayor.

Given the relative vagaries of his charities we don&#039;t know (or care) whether he benefitted directly. Some places he claims to have raised x amount, in other places it is x amount. Look at his constituency website and his page as Mayor, then look at the website of the charity in question. 

But it doesn&#039;t matter. The asking, the asking &amp; the manner of asking for the donations to begin with is where he went wrong, where the Integrity folks caught him screwing up. He probably benefitted for the asking (if you don&#039;t understand then you can&#039;t be helped by me) or the perception by and of the parties asked were skewed by the asking or donating. 

Then he made it 1000x worse by standing up in council and doing something -absolutely- wrong.

If it were Miller he would not have stood and made an ass of himself with a blatant COI. Miller is a lot of things but stupid and oblivious to parliamentary ways are not among those.

BTW, your own vitriol maxed out way above Cory&#039;s.

To bad about you losing your Mayor. Good to see that you didn&#039;t like or approve of him either. What were you saying again?





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;scuse, but look at teh election map for the race in question.</p>
<p>Now overlay a pre-amalgamation map.</p>
<p>Now consider how amalgamation came to be. Who, of what affiliation, rammed it through? Why?</p>
<p>Now consider where Bay Street &amp; other places of influence are. Is it the suburbs?</p>
<p>Go ahead and overlay a few previous mayoral elections, just to be sure. Go ahead and check the bona fides of the mayors outside Toronto pre-amalgamation.</p>
<p>As for what got Ford into office, it is a combination of his own doggedness and his father, who was an MPP and provided a comfortable sack of comfort to his boys, which allowed Rob to afford to run. That and he had little to no competition. </p>
<p>He only began making life hell for everyone (not just the left) at City Hall after becoming Mayor. As a councillor he was inept, never passing anything of his own and opposing the work of others (ineffectually, like 43-1 ineffectually) and was generally good at filling potholes and pretending to work. He was laughed at. He would not be Mayor had the centre or left fielded a worthy candidate. He would not be Mayor if Tory had decided to take a stab at it. He fell into a hole, that&#8217;s how he became Mayor.</p>
<p>Given the relative vagaries of his charities we don&#8217;t know (or care) whether he benefitted directly. Some places he claims to have raised x amount, in other places it is x amount. Look at his constituency website and his page as Mayor, then look at the website of the charity in question. </p>
<p>But it doesn&#8217;t matter. The asking, the asking &amp; the manner of asking for the donations to begin with is where he went wrong, where the Integrity folks caught him screwing up. He probably benefitted for the asking (if you don&#8217;t understand then you can&#8217;t be helped by me) or the perception by and of the parties asked were skewed by the asking or donating. </p>
<p>Then he made it 1000x worse by standing up in council and doing something -absolutely- wrong.</p>
<p>If it were Miller he would not have stood and made an ass of himself with a blatant COI. Miller is a lot of things but stupid and oblivious to parliamentary ways are not among those.</p>
<p>BTW, your own vitriol maxed out way above Cory&#8217;s.</p>
<p>To bad about you losing your Mayor. Good to see that you didn&#8217;t like or approve of him either. What were you saying again?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Teeuwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Teeuwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, accurate 15 years ago when amalgamation took place. As a Lefty, I find the constant knee-jerk response to literally every possible outcome that is unfavorable to us - this is a problem that was forced on to us by the evil, all-powerful Mike Harris of 15 years ago - to be a really weak and sad argument. I wonder how many decades on we can use that one for?


Instead, maybe we should recognize that a Lefty who did things with some passion and relateability to the voters all over the city instead of an island contained within of a few streets downtown is the way to go. Blaming Ford&#039;s victory on Harris and the sort of voters that We Find Distasteful is weak. I sure hope we can leave that brand of excuse-making behind us and find someone who actually appears to like people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, accurate 15 years ago when amalgamation took place. As a Lefty, I find the constant knee-jerk response to literally every possible outcome that is unfavorable to us &#8211; this is a problem that was forced on to us by the evil, all-powerful Mike Harris of 15 years ago &#8211; to be a really weak and sad argument. I wonder how many decades on we can use that one for?</p>
<p>Instead, maybe we should recognize that a Lefty who did things with some passion and relateability to the voters all over the city instead of an island contained within of a few streets downtown is the way to go. Blaming Ford&#8217;s victory on Harris and the sort of voters that We Find Distasteful is weak. I sure hope we can leave that brand of excuse-making behind us and find someone who actually appears to like people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Snider</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank the stars. May we (and by we I mean the misguided people in this city who voted thusly) never do anything so shortsighted again. *crosses fingers*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank the stars. May we (and by we I mean the misguided people in this city who voted thusly) never do anything so shortsighted again. *crosses fingers*</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Fritz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-is-out.html#comment-1591712</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does this mean he doesn&#039;t get to hold the Grey Cup in the Argos parade tomorrow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean he doesn&#8217;t get to hold the Grey Cup in the Argos parade tomorrow?</p>
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		<title>By: hughstimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>hughstimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was on his way to self-destructing in the eyes of his supporters. This will give him a reprieve from self-destruction and a shot as a come-back candidate with fresh anti-elitist frustration to support him.

He should have been sanctioned in some way, but this disproportionate sudden death was not the way to do it. It is neither just nor good for the city. It may even result in a second Rob Ford term that we otherwise were going to be spared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was on his way to self-destructing in the eyes of his supporters. This will give him a reprieve from self-destruction and a shot as a come-back candidate with fresh anti-elitist frustration to support him.</p>
<p>He should have been sanctioned in some way, but this disproportionate sudden death was not the way to do it. It is neither just nor good for the city. It may even result in a second Rob Ford term that we otherwise were going to be spared.</p>
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