New evidence of ‘chemo brain’ proves cognitive damage from cancer treatment isn't ‘all in your head’

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  1. Francis Delaney says:

    I don’t mean to be insensitive at all, so I hope I’m worrying for nothing, but is this particularly surprising? If you’re going to be damaging the body so significantly and profoundly for such an extended period of time, is it surprising that you’re also affecting the brain?

    • Xeni Jardin says:

      I was just talking about this study with my physical therapist this morning, as he tortured my surgery site with deep tissue massage to help relieve my chronic post-operative pain. “How could anyone imagine that you could pump someone full of that much cell-destroying drugs and *not* have it affect the central nervous system,” he asked?

      It makes sense to those of us who’ve been through it, hell yeah. Totally logical. Chemo brings your body to the brink of death, to kill the cancer. You bet it’s gonna affect the brain.

      But this study is tremendously important because it validates what we subjectively know with evidence.

      For decades, patients’ complaints of chemobrain have been dismissed as depression, fatigue, or something we were imagining. We were ignored, we were told it was “all in our head,” and this major consequence of our treatment was not considered important. 

      Now there’s a growing acknowledgement that it is real. It is a mental disability. A big goddamned deal. Something that deserves respect and therapy. I know plenty of cancer patients who have trouble performing their jobs after chemo because of the cognitive changes. It is a huge, underappreciated thing.

      • Francis Delaney says:

        And I suppose that is the next question. With understanding, can we find solutions? Brain chemistry is almost hilariously easy to manipulate, you can do it with the addition and subtraction of sunlight. Maybe, as you say, therapy can mitigate or repair some of the “damage”?

        And yes, the official acknowledgement is huge. Subjective experience, especially when it comes to perception and brain related things is always such a difficult thing to have recognized by science. This is only good news.

        • Xeni Jardin says:

          The hope is that with more serious research being done into the physiology of chemobrain, we’ll be able to learn more about how to treat it and/or cope with it.

          For now, the best advice we cancer patients get is pretty much, “try to live long enough for some of it to wear off,” which is some major fucking weaksauce.

          • Francis Delaney says:

            Pretty sure that advice can be applied to anything.

            “Had my arm run over by a truck”
            “Live long enough for some of it to wear off”

            “Ate some bad sushi”
            “Live long enough for some of it to wear off”

            “Got a bad tattoo”
            “Live long enough for some of it to wear off”

            Weaksauce indeed.

          •  As a fellow cancer/chemo survivor, I agree.  What’s worse is that I learned about chemo brain from a fellow cancer patient, not from doctors.

            Also?  It’s been five years since I finished chemotherapy and I can *still* feel the effects of this in regards to my attention span and ability to concentrate as well as my ability to handle certain forms of language, like writing things longer than this comment.

            Thank you for talking about this.  I hope that they do more research into how to cope with it for all of us who have been through it.

      • bzishi says:

        From my understanding, chemotherapy is designed to attack the fast replicating cells. For this reason it takes out the hair and damages the gastrointestinal system. Neurons aren’t fast replicating cells, so it is a little surprising that they would be impacted. In any case, every drug has a side effect and it is good that this one is better understood. Since the treatment of cancer seems to be the balancing act of picking the least harmful treatment, these findings might make doctors more likely to use radiation or surgery. Or perhaps certain types of chemotherapy are less damaging to the brain?

        • Xeni Jardin says:

          I don’t have all the studies handy, but yes, in fact, there is some evidence that some chemotherapy drugs (and some specific regimens of dose and frequency) are more likely than others to cause acute cognitive damage. 

          The phenomenon is perplexing for health care providers precisely because of the reasons you outline. Chemo goes after fast-growing cells; how is it that neurons are affected, also?

          Maybe part of the answer is that just because chemo is *designed to target* fast-growing cells doesn’t mean it can’t impact other cells. It’s a powerful but very blunt tool.

          Just as chemo affects many parts of our body as collateral damage, fast growing cells or not, the brain and nervous system simply get hit, too.

          Chemo. It’s a motherfucker.

          • nixiebunny says:

            Having sent a young child through a couple years of chemo, I can assure you that the childhood leukemia doctors are well aware of the damaging effects of chemo on the brain. Many of these effects do not make themselves apparent for several years after the chemo. They often are easy to detect as math processing problems – my other son is astoundingly good at math, while the cancer survivor is OK at math, but a bit slow.

            The difference is that childhood leukemia treatment requires injection of chemo drugs directly into the cerebra-spinal fluid, since a common recurrence site for leukemia is the brain. There is a blood-brain barrier that will keep the drugs out of the brain, but it obviously doesn’t keep the cancer out of the brain, so go figure.

          • Xeni Jardin says:

            Man. I can’t imagine the pain and sorrow involved in watching your child be damaged in that way by the only treatment option available to save his/her life. My heart goes out to you guys, as you live and learn to cope with it. I hope your kid is doing great right now, too.

      • Dirk Walls says:

        Been 10 years since my chemo and my brain doesn’t work as well as it used to.  Bad enough that I was worried I was getting early onset Alzheimer’s or something. 

        Also, I can’t stand the cold as well as I could before chemo. 

    • brandonmwest says:

      Everything is obvious once you know the answer. 

    • blueelm says:

      It’s also important to find things like this in order to start understanding HOW it happens. If science starts to get a picture of how patients’ brains are being injured that is an important step in figuring out how to reduce that risk. Are there things that can be done to help protect a patient from it? If not are there things that can be done to speed recovery? Even if you know that *something* seems to be happening, without good clear information on the nature of the phenomenon there can’t be progress towards solutions. 

  2. MarthaThompson says:

    I’m a 16 year rectal cancer survivor that had chemo and radiation (diagnosed age 30).  To this day I still have issues and every time I talk to a doctor about them they just shrug and say I’m getting old.  And I mean many doctors—across states.  Even if I go to a cancer specialist they congratulate me for getting through it then *shrug*, if I go to a regular doctor they are baffled as to how to treat my linger issues then *shrug*.  From memory to fatigue to pain no one knows what to suggest.  I’m so so so grateful to have survived but frustrated at the lack of answers.  Sadly as much as I’ve tried to live above these issues they all have hurt my pass job performances.  To the point that I eventually quit applying for jobs.  I started working from home but the fatigue is just too much.   I’m glad this study came out and I’m glad there are more survivors.

  3. metafactory says:

    My daughter had kidney cancer when she was two years old; she went through months of chemo. She’s now 14 and appears normal (though gothy/emo/post-punk or something) and her teachers are almost always skeptical that she has a valid reason for being forgetful and occasionally absent (partly because she looks ‘weird’, I think).  

    So this research is hugely important in our effort to make an education system that is unevenly intolerant of invisible medical issues actually pay attention and not write this off as yet another kid and family looking for special consideration.  
    I really appreciate you sharing and publicizing this.

    • nixiebunny says:

      Our younger son went through 2.5 years of chemo for ALL leukemia. The doctors we saw were quite aware of the damaging effects of the treatment on the in the neuro-psychological arena.

      Our hospital has set up a special “long-term care clinic” to deal with the aftermath of chemo and radiation treatments on the childhood cancer survivors. You should ask your hospital if they can do the same.

  4. My hope, like others have noted above, is that not only does this study lead to advances regarding chemobrain, but that it makes doctors realize they need to have a more open mind when it comes to patient issues.  I cannot tell you the number of times I was told, after detailing a particular problem or reaction I was having to treatments, “I’ve never heard that before” or “Oh, that would have happened anyway with menopause”.  (that’s the standard response to any issues connected to Tamoxifen).  

    • MarthaThompson says:

       This…like all the time. “I’ve never heard that before” or “Oh, that would have happened anyway with menopause”.  I just want to poke them in the eye!

  5. Austin Wiles says:

    At least in the future, I think it might be prudent to retire the “proves” from the presentation of new scientific evidence.  This evidence either “supports” or at most “demonstrates.”  In the interest of scientific literacy and changing how the public talks about new and evolving evidence, our language needs to be appropriate.  Especially when we are speaking about technology where the results are not always reproducible (fMRI) and with topics that are difficult and often disputed such as “chemo-brain.”

  6. erx says:

    One misconception is the idea that studies like this somehow provide evidence that chemo-brain exists.  The best evidence, and the only evidence you need, to demonstrate chemo-brain is to give cognitive tests to people before, during, and after chemotherapy, compare to matched controls, etc.  Evidence that actually looks at the clinical signs and symptoms itself is really the only evidence that matters as far as establishing the existence of the clinical entity.  Brain imaging might give you a clue as to the etiology, and that would be the hope, but the imaging by itself demonstrates nothing about the clinical effects of the changes.  There are a lot of treatments that will make your brain look different under some sort of functional imaging, but they don’t cause widespread cognitive dysfunction.

  7. Halloween_Jack says:

    It reminds me of some of the recent research on long-term use of antiviral drugs by HIV+ patients; in some of them, doctors are seeing onset of dementia much earlier than you’d expect from aging. There’s no obvious cause and effect.

  8. Antinous / Moderator says:

    One thing that I noticed in yoga classes is that students who had chemo seemed to have serious balance problems.

  9. Dusty Trail says:

    It may surprise some to find that other systems affect the brain. If they aren’t functioning properly the brain may suffer. How do toxins from chemo affect the kidneys? How does compromised renal function affect the brain?
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121119093659.htm

  10. chadmulligan says:

    My mother was undergoing radical chemotherapy for ovarian cancer that had metastatized while the ob-gyns still thought she had stomach trouble. In December 2007, she suffered a brain aneurysm in my arms and went into a coma that she never left. I am not surprised that chemo causes brain damage.

  11. Xeni, thanks for posting this. While this study does not provide all the answers, and I agree that cognitive testing is also very much needed, it’s a first step. It hopefully opens the door for funding of more research. We need to know why chemobrain develops, why some patients receiving the same chemo will develop issues and some will not, why some patients improve and some don’t, and how it can be prevented and/or treated. Unfortunately, cancer is not going away (more research needed here, too!) and until we can get rid of this terrible disease or at least develop effective and less toxic treatments, we need to figure out how to manage the side effects of our treatments so that quality of life is maintained.  

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