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	<title>Comments on: Houston duo indicted for internet puppy torture&#160;videos</title>
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		<title>By: benenglish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596468</link>
		<dc:creator>benenglish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I know this is weird but it&#039;s just an information point.  I knew the guy (and, yes, there was ONE guy) who started the commercial crush video market (in the U.S., at least).  The thing is, he wasn&#039;t into the crushing.  He was a foot fetishist.  He was looking for a way to make a splash in that market so he started making crush videos that were pathetic.  They featured worms.  Literally, he had lovely women stepping on stuff you buy at a bait shop.

That got him some notoriety and he quickly abandoned the whole &quot;crush&quot; thing to concentrate on what turned him on, feet.  Other folks, however, saw that there was a market for killing things.  Commercial videos of models popping the skulls of kittens weren&#039;t far behind.  Last time I talked to him (over 15 years ago) he was aghast that people would do stuff like that and was wracked with guilt over the whole thing.

Yeah, no links and it sounds ridiculous.  So don&#039;t believe me.  I&#039;m not going to link to any of his old stuff from 20 years ago because I don&#039;t want anyone else making the connection, tracking him down, and blaming him for shit that is clearly way beyond anything he would have ever conceived.  (Besides, if you&#039;re seriously into porn history, just the narrative above would be enough for you to identify him.)

My point is - Give people a little weirdness and there are nutjobs out there who will take it to extremes.  Must we all live vanilla lives so we don&#039;t give ideas to borderline crazies?  Or will sociopaths come up with this stuff all by themselves, anyway?

I dunno.  Sometimes I grieve for the state of the human race. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know this is weird but it&#8217;s just an information point.  I knew the guy (and, yes, there was ONE guy) who started the commercial crush video market (in the U.S., at least).  The thing is, he wasn&#8217;t into the crushing.  He was a foot fetishist.  He was looking for a way to make a splash in that market so he started making crush videos that were pathetic.  They featured worms.  Literally, he had lovely women stepping on stuff you buy at a bait shop.</p>
<p>That got him some notoriety and he quickly abandoned the whole &#8220;crush&#8221; thing to concentrate on what turned him on, feet.  Other folks, however, saw that there was a market for killing things.  Commercial videos of models popping the skulls of kittens weren&#8217;t far behind.  Last time I talked to him (over 15 years ago) he was aghast that people would do stuff like that and was wracked with guilt over the whole thing.</p>
<p>Yeah, no links and it sounds ridiculous.  So don&#8217;t believe me.  I&#8217;m not going to link to any of his old stuff from 20 years ago because I don&#8217;t want anyone else making the connection, tracking him down, and blaming him for shit that is clearly way beyond anything he would have ever conceived.  (Besides, if you&#8217;re seriously into porn history, just the narrative above would be enough for you to identify him.)</p>
<p>My point is &#8211; Give people a little weirdness and there are nutjobs out there who will take it to extremes.  Must we all live vanilla lives so we don&#8217;t give ideas to borderline crazies?  Or will sociopaths come up with this stuff all by themselves, anyway?</p>
<p>I dunno.  Sometimes I grieve for the state of the human race. </p>
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		<title>By: Velocirapt42</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596406</link>
		<dc:creator>Velocirapt42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting, because back in the day people regularly vivisected completely unsedated animals- dogs, mostly- in front of a medical audience. People were convinced that as animals have no soul, the dog couldn&#039;t really be feeling pain, despite its screams and struggles and everything else that makes us want to vomit and get out the shotgun. (To be fair, there were anti-vivisectionists as well, who protested this kind of thing.) 

Nowadays, if a kid did this, we&#039;d gear ourselves up for him being a sociopath, because it shows a shocking lack of empathy. If you&#039;re not moved by the cries and struggles of a tortured puppy, if you ENJOY it, you&#039;re probably going to move onto humans- perhaps not torture per se, but physical and/ or emotional abuse of people who have to take it because they don&#039;t think they have a choice or can&#039;t get away  (spouses, kids, unfortunate sex workers, etc.) Lack of empathy is what has characterized the infamous killers in our society that did unspeakable things (at least, those who did them hands-on; bombers and people who have others do the abusing and killing are further removed from the act of violence.)

So my question is, were the people back in the day performing these demonstrations sociopaths? Hopefully they didn&#039;t actually enjoy what they were doing, but they were unfazed enough to carry on with the practice. I&#039;ve always been puzzled about exactly where to place that part of medical history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting, because back in the day people regularly vivisected completely unsedated animals- dogs, mostly- in front of a medical audience. People were convinced that as animals have no soul, the dog couldn&#8217;t really be feeling pain, despite its screams and struggles and everything else that makes us want to vomit and get out the shotgun. (To be fair, there were anti-vivisectionists as well, who protested this kind of thing.) </p>
<p>Nowadays, if a kid did this, we&#8217;d gear ourselves up for him being a sociopath, because it shows a shocking lack of empathy. If you&#8217;re not moved by the cries and struggles of a tortured puppy, if you ENJOY it, you&#8217;re probably going to move onto humans- perhaps not torture per se, but physical and/ or emotional abuse of people who have to take it because they don&#8217;t think they have a choice or can&#8217;t get away  (spouses, kids, unfortunate sex workers, etc.) Lack of empathy is what has characterized the infamous killers in our society that did unspeakable things (at least, those who did them hands-on; bombers and people who have others do the abusing and killing are further removed from the act of violence.)</p>
<p>So my question is, were the people back in the day performing these demonstrations sociopaths? Hopefully they didn&#8217;t actually enjoy what they were doing, but they were unfazed enough to carry on with the practice. I&#8217;ve always been puzzled about exactly where to place that part of medical history.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596364</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The federal indictment alleges they produced the films &#039;with the objective of earning a profit.&#039;”  
Doesn&#039;t sound like they were after Obama&#039;s welfare handouts but more like they are predatory Romney capitalists.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The federal indictment alleges they produced the films &#8216;with the objective of earning a profit.&#8217;” <br />
Doesn&#8217;t sound like they were after Obama&#8217;s welfare handouts but more like they are predatory Romney capitalists.   </p>
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		<title>By: koturnin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596253</link>
		<dc:creator>koturnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh... This probably surprises no one, but has anyone seen the Wired comments section? It&#039;s the f-ing KKK over there! Lynching, n****rs, and of course the more genteel shibboleths like &#039;Obamaphones&#039; and welfare references. I mean I don&#039;t expect much from Wired comments but the extent of it was surprising. Oh well, the election brought all these guys out of their cave I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230; This probably surprises no one, but has anyone seen the Wired comments section? It&#8217;s the f-ing KKK over there! Lynching, n****rs, and of course the more genteel shibboleths like &#8216;Obamaphones&#8217; and welfare references. I mean I don&#8217;t expect much from Wired comments but the extent of it was surprising. Oh well, the election brought all these guys out of their cave I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
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		<dc:creator>robcat2075</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall reading about WWI being precipitated by the murder of one person.  That was a bit more rage than commenting on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading about WWI being precipitated by the murder of one person.  That was a bit more rage than commenting on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596110</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texas has the death penalty, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas has the death penalty, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596050</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a difference between a charity that promotes awareness of illness and one that promotes awareness of problematic human behavior.  In the latter case, shining a spotlight on it is usually the primary cure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between a charity that promotes awareness of illness and one that promotes awareness of problematic human behavior.  In the latter case, shining a spotlight on it is usually the primary cure.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But sadly, will be available only by x-ray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But sadly, will be available only by x-ray.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1596022</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Menendez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Menendez.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your &lt;b&gt;concern&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your <b>concern</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Jett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595964</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Jett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say....&quot;I know you guys hate those who are mean to dogs......&quot;

I assume you believe that there are people who are fine and accepting of people who are &quot;mean to dogs&quot;.

I am glad to say I have never met those people and hope that I never do.  

If someone is mean to a dog, then they are simply mean.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say&#8230;.&#8221;I know you guys hate those who are mean to dogs&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I assume you believe that there are people who are fine and accepting of people who are &#8220;mean to dogs&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am glad to say I have never met those people and hope that I never do.  </p>
<p>If someone is mean to a dog, then they are simply mean.  </p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595921</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I should have said how come I RARELY if EVER see this kind of rage over the murder of a human being.
 Be honest.&quot;

Physician, heal thyself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I should have said how come I RARELY if EVER see this kind of rage over the murder of a human being.<br />
 Be honest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Physician, heal thyself.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
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		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias


Because you&#039;re myopic to a fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias</a></p>
<p>Because you&#8217;re myopic to a fault.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
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		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETA is an &quot;awareness&quot; charity. Like Komen and many others, they exist to propagate their personal brand, not to do &quot;the most good&quot;.

I&#039;m sure all of us have met an asshole before, but your ramblings about animal lovers are irrelevant and confusingly misplaced in a thread about abusive psychopaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA is an &#8220;awareness&#8221; charity. Like Komen and many others, they exist to propagate their personal brand, not to do &#8220;the most good&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure all of us have met an asshole before, but your ramblings about animal lovers are irrelevant and confusingly misplaced in a thread about abusive psychopaths.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it may be more complicated than that. Although dogs play a very different role in Western society I think the protections given cows in India may be somewhat analogous. If the theory I&#039;m familiar with is correct people in India don&#039;t eat cows because a living cow provides resources to a large number of people over a long period of time, whereas a dead cow would feed a smaller number of people for a much shorter period of time.

It&#039;s not a perfect analogy. I know a lot of people with dogs and none of them depend on their dogs for milk or use dog shit for oven fuel, but I think there may be a similar sense that dogs as companions are &quot;useful&quot; in a way that dogs as food wouldn&#039;t be.

Besides &quot;cute&quot; is in the eye of the beholder, and there are a lot of animals that are pretty darn cute that are still widely eaten. I&#039;m pretty sure a lot of people who enjoyed the movie &lt;i&gt;Babe&lt;/i&gt; still eat bacon and lamb chops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it may be more complicated than that. Although dogs play a very different role in Western society I think the protections given cows in India may be somewhat analogous. If the theory I&#8217;m familiar with is correct people in India don&#8217;t eat cows because a living cow provides resources to a large number of people over a long period of time, whereas a dead cow would feed a smaller number of people for a much shorter period of time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a perfect analogy. I know a lot of people with dogs and none of them depend on their dogs for milk or use dog shit for oven fuel, but I think there may be a similar sense that dogs as companions are &#8220;useful&#8221; in a way that dogs as food wouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
<p>Besides &#8220;cute&#8221; is in the eye of the beholder, and there are a lot of animals that are pretty darn cute that are still widely eaten. I&#8217;m pretty sure a lot of people who enjoyed the movie <i>Babe</i> still eat bacon and lamb chops.</p>
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		<title>By: IronEdithKidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>IronEdithKidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider air animals to be inclusive to the land animals group.  Sea critter I capitulated on about 10 years ago, but I seriously can&#039;t eat anything that ever had legs.  And by &quot;more than 25 years&quot; I was just trying to make myself feel better about the fact that it&#039;s been 29 years. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider air animals to be inclusive to the land animals group.  Sea critter I capitulated on about 10 years ago, but I seriously can&#8217;t eat anything that ever had legs.  And by &#8220;more than 25 years&#8221; I was just trying to make myself feel better about the fact that it&#8217;s been 29 years. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: coiled embrace</title>
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		<dc:creator>coiled embrace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demons are devouring your unborn spawn, Charles... You are so rational. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demons are devouring your unborn spawn, Charles&#8230; You are so rational. </p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve had children myself...and now the grandkids so comments like these tend to get my back up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve had children myself&#8230;and now the grandkids so comments like these tend to get my back up.</p>
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		<title>By: IronEdithKidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>IronEdithKidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.  Next show is at 8 pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  Next show is at 8 pm.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL don&#039;t sweat it, I don&#039;t see animals that way much not even before I had children. But I understand why such reports are so evocative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL don&#8217;t sweat it, I don&#8217;t see animals that way much not even before I had children. But I understand why such reports are so evocative.</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I was gonna say that those pictures of them seem to indicate that they&#039;re...ummm...too dark to be Native Americans. I agree that hs sounds like a racist shithead there. Good call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I was gonna say that those pictures of them seem to indicate that they&#8217;re&#8230;ummm&#8230;too dark to be Native Americans. I agree that hs sounds like a racist shithead there. Good call.</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I wish to thank you most kindly for making me laugh out loud. Your indoor plumbing comment caught me off gaurd and it took a few seconds to sink in but then I completely lost it.

I needed a laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I wish to thank you most kindly for making me laugh out loud. Your indoor plumbing comment caught me off gaurd and it took a few seconds to sink in but then I completely lost it.</p>
<p>I needed a laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595823</link>
		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> ditto...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> ditto&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595821</link>
		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAN! I didn&#039;t mean for my comment to generate this much hoohah. I&#039;ll agree with most of what you guys have said except that I don&#039;t see a pet as a child or even a child substitute. Especially one that is never going to grow up. I see them as what they are, an animal that enjoys living with me in my home. There&#039;s a big difference there between that and thinking of them as an almost human.

Last thing I want to do is get into a big debate over this. I see that everyone has their own viewpoint and that&#039;s great! It&#039;s what makes humans such a wonderful thing. I wish everyone in the world could state their own viewpoint without fear of being thrown into the middle of a word fight, or, in some places, an actual fight. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAN! I didn&#8217;t mean for my comment to generate this much hoohah. I&#8217;ll agree with most of what you guys have said except that I don&#8217;t see a pet as a child or even a child substitute. Especially one that is never going to grow up. I see them as what they are, an animal that enjoys living with me in my home. There&#8217;s a big difference there between that and thinking of them as an almost human.</p>
<p>Last thing I want to do is get into a big debate over this. I see that everyone has their own viewpoint and that&#8217;s great! It&#8217;s what makes humans such a wonderful thing. I wish everyone in the world could state their own viewpoint without fear of being thrown into the middle of a word fight, or, in some places, an actual fight. </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595818</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the problem with belief eh?

You can eat dog in the USA, no laws restrict it. If you wanted to sell dogmeat for consumption well then it must be inspected etc. which is a considerable barrier.

Guess what else Obama has consumed....
...
...
You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the problem with belief eh?</p>
<p>You can eat dog in the USA, no laws restrict it. If you wanted to sell dogmeat for consumption well then it must be inspected etc. which is a considerable barrier.</p>
<p>Guess what else Obama has consumed&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<br />
You.</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595811</link>
		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;ve never understood the don&#039;t eat dogs thing. I&#039;ve eaten and enjoyed dog meat, horse meat and many others while I was in the service. I&#039;ve always thought that here in America, a lot of people decided that it&#039;s okay to eat any animal that isn&#039;t cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;ve never understood the don&#8217;t eat dogs thing. I&#8217;ve eaten and enjoyed dog meat, horse meat and many others while I was in the service. I&#8217;ve always thought that here in America, a lot of people decided that it&#8217;s okay to eat any animal that isn&#8217;t cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595806</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wish their children harmed for their parents actions?

Why not just friend the couple on Facebook? I&#039;m sure people who are sick and inhuman in only slightly different ways have much to chat about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wish their children harmed for their parents actions?</p>
<p>Why not just friend the couple on Facebook? I&#8217;m sure people who are sick and inhuman in only slightly different ways have much to chat about.</p>
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		<title>By: Xploder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xploder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. I should have said how come I RARELY if EVER see this kind of rage over the murder of a human being.

 Be honest. Any time some horrible asshat like these two do something like this, the interwebs go into a frothing rage over it and I think that&#039;s the right thing to do. I didn&#039;t see this kind of outrage after the shootings at the theater that killed and wounded so many. What I DID see was a hell of a lot of people posting about how crazy the guy looked and discussing whether or not he thought he was the Joker and crap like that. 

Please don&#039;t get me wrong, I love animals and have had dogs my whole life. If someone were to do something like that to one of my dogs, I&#039;d have no problem shooting them if I caught them in the act.

But yeah, you&#039;re right, I should have worded that better. I apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I should have said how come I RARELY if EVER see this kind of rage over the murder of a human being.</p>
<p> Be honest. Any time some horrible asshat like these two do something like this, the interwebs go into a frothing rage over it and I think that&#8217;s the right thing to do. I didn&#8217;t see this kind of outrage after the shootings at the theater that killed and wounded so many. What I DID see was a hell of a lot of people posting about how crazy the guy looked and discussing whether or not he thought he was the Joker and crap like that. </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love animals and have had dogs my whole life. If someone were to do something like that to one of my dogs, I&#8217;d have no problem shooting them if I caught them in the act.</p>
<p>But yeah, you&#8217;re right, I should have worded that better. I apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595780</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were observing the reactions of those who knew the murdered human it might resemble what you see here.

We know that we don&#039;t know the humans.

We know that we do know the animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were observing the reactions of those who knew the murdered human it might resemble what you see here.</p>
<p>We know that we don&#8217;t know the humans.</p>
<p>We know that we do know the animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Lupus_Yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/30/houston-duo-indicted-for-inter.html#comment-1595776</link>
		<dc:creator>Lupus_Yonderboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t understand your context for &quot;wiped out&quot;, please clarify.  If it&#039;s because &quot;well, we won&#039;t have cows if we don&#039;t keep breeding them to be slaughtered&quot; then perhaps we shouldn&#039;t have cows.  I think that the cows would probably prefer it that way - I know that if personally I was given the choice between my species gradually fading away and being captive bred to be brutally slaughtered I&#039;d probably choose the former.  If it was up to me animals would have the chances that nature gave them without our interference (of course, that includes both breeding for slaughter and taking over their habitats) but it isn&#039;t up to me so I try to do my part where I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t understand your context for &#8220;wiped out&#8221;, please clarify.  If it&#8217;s because &#8220;well, we won&#8217;t have cows if we don&#8217;t keep breeding them to be slaughtered&#8221; then perhaps we shouldn&#8217;t have cows.  I think that the cows would probably prefer it that way &#8211; I know that if personally I was given the choice between my species gradually fading away and being captive bred to be brutally slaughtered I&#8217;d probably choose the former.  If it was up to me animals would have the chances that nature gave them without our interference (of course, that includes both breeding for slaughter and taking over their habitats) but it isn&#8217;t up to me so I try to do my part where I can.</p>
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