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	<title>Comments on: Bill Nye tells us how old the earth&#160;is</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/01/bill-nye-tells-us-how-old-the.html#comment-1598893</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We don&#039;t need high school classrooms being used to further an anti-religious agenda, either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Teaching basic science is not an anti-religious agenda.
&lt;blockquote&gt;How about we compromise and teach evolution (not creationism which is not science) in college?&lt;/blockquote&gt;How about we continue teaching basic science in school?  I can;t imagine what could possibly be going on in your head that would make you think that it&#039;s in any way okay to stop teaching basic science in school in order to abase ourselves to religious fanatics.

Your entire comment is a massive false equivalency and an apologia for religious fundamentalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We don&#8217;t need high school classrooms being used to further an anti-religious agenda, either.</p></blockquote>
<p>Teaching basic science is not an anti-religious agenda.</p>
<blockquote><p>How about we compromise and teach evolution (not creationism which is not science) in college?</p></blockquote>
<p>How about we continue teaching basic science in school?  I can;t imagine what could possibly be going on in your head that would make you think that it&#8217;s in any way okay to stop teaching basic science in school in order to abase ourselves to religious fanatics.</p>
<p>Your entire comment is a massive false equivalency and an apologia for religious fundamentalism.</p>
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		<title>By: anharmyenone</title>
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		<dc:creator>anharmyenone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who seem to care the most about teaching evolution in public high schools seem to be either militant fundamentalists or militant atheists. Hmmm. I thought this was supposed to be purely about science? It&#039;s obvious people on both sides are using this issue as a proxy for religious and philosophical and sociological issues they care deeply about. How about we compromise and teach evolution (not creationism which is not science) in college? It&#039;s true that the current version of evolutionary theory does a great job of explaining the available evidence and has great predictive value. However, it&#039;s kind of like quantum mechanics in that it&#039;s a) counterintuitive b) highly technical c) only experts really need to know about it. Of course if you&#039;re tryiing to influence people&#039;s religious beliefs by providing a non-divine origin for humanity, that&#039;s really a proselytizing issue. (Proselytizing for atheism.) Once people get older, they are better able to reconcile evolution with their faith. Stripping away peoples&#039; faith through cheap moves like exposing them to evolution before they can handle that knowledge is abusive. We got rid of teacher-led school prayer because the state should not be pushing religion. We don&#039;t need high school classrooms being used to further an anti-religious agenda, either. 

That was for the militant atheists. Now to the fundamentalists; stop pushing creationism. It&#039;s stupid. Sure, you don&#039;t want your kids to think they&#039;re animals with no souls. Why not explain to your kids the concept of paradox? Evolution and faith can coexist because of paradox. They&#039;ll understand better when they&#039;re older. But stop promoting that creationism crap and demanding that politicians pretend that they don&#039;t know that it&#039;s crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who seem to care the most about teaching evolution in public high schools seem to be either militant fundamentalists or militant atheists. Hmmm. I thought this was supposed to be purely about science? It&#8217;s obvious people on both sides are using this issue as a proxy for religious and philosophical and sociological issues they care deeply about. How about we compromise and teach evolution (not creationism which is not science) in college? It&#8217;s true that the current version of evolutionary theory does a great job of explaining the available evidence and has great predictive value. However, it&#8217;s kind of like quantum mechanics in that it&#8217;s a) counterintuitive b) highly technical c) only experts really need to know about it. Of course if you&#8217;re tryiing to influence people&#8217;s religious beliefs by providing a non-divine origin for humanity, that&#8217;s really a proselytizing issue. (Proselytizing for atheism.) Once people get older, they are better able to reconcile evolution with their faith. Stripping away peoples&#8217; faith through cheap moves like exposing them to evolution before they can handle that knowledge is abusive. We got rid of teacher-led school prayer because the state should not be pushing religion. We don&#8217;t need high school classrooms being used to further an anti-religious agenda, either. </p>
<p>That was for the militant atheists. Now to the fundamentalists; stop pushing creationism. It&#8217;s stupid. Sure, you don&#8217;t want your kids to think they&#8217;re animals with no souls. Why not explain to your kids the concept of paradox? Evolution and faith can coexist because of paradox. They&#8217;ll understand better when they&#8217;re older. But stop promoting that creationism crap and demanding that politicians pretend that they don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Muser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einstein was in no way a Deist.   He occasionally used the word &quot;God&quot; as a whimsical euphemism for the nature of the universe, but not in the way that religions use it.  Here are some direct quotes from Einstein himself:

&quot;The word God is for me is nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.&quot;

&quot;It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.&quot;

Anyone who claims Einstein believed in God is perpetuating a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einstein was in no way a Deist.   He occasionally used the word &#8220;God&#8221; as a whimsical euphemism for the nature of the universe, but not in the way that religions use it.  Here are some direct quotes from Einstein himself:</p>
<p>&#8220;The word God is for me is nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who claims Einstein believed in God is perpetuating a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed. </description>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;i&#039;d love to restrict their votes, but who decides who votes?  slippery slope.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t want to restrict anyone&#039;s vote no matter how ignorant they are.  Although, I certainly do want to change the electoral voting system so it doesn&#039;t give more votes to people that live out in the sticks (who are over-saturated with right wing radio air pollution) than people who live in cities.

But, what I am talking about is that we need to stop catering to dogmatic imbeciles and move humanity forward ourselves.  They keep us stuck in the mud debating with them while we should be taking care of dire issues instead.

The &quot;debate&quot; over evolution was solved a very long time ago and the media needs to ignore these morons so we can all evolve.  And, we sure as hell as Americans need to vote these dimwits the hell OUT of office ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i&#8217;d love to restrict their votes, but who decides who votes?  slippery slope.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to restrict anyone&#8217;s vote no matter how ignorant they are.  Although, I certainly do want to change the electoral voting system so it doesn&#8217;t give more votes to people that live out in the sticks (who are over-saturated with right wing radio air pollution) than people who live in cities.</p>
<p>But, what I am talking about is that we need to stop catering to dogmatic imbeciles and move humanity forward ourselves.  They keep us stuck in the mud debating with them while we should be taking care of dire issues instead.</p>
<p>The &#8220;debate&#8221; over evolution was solved a very long time ago and the media needs to ignore these morons so we can all evolve.  And, we sure as hell as Americans need to vote these dimwits the hell OUT of office ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we&#039;re just talking about &quot;dumb monkeys&quot;  maybe that&#039;s anyone who has 70%ile intelligence or lower?  in this country, unfortunately that&#039;s like 80% of the people.
based upon the most recent national election, aren&#039;t we talking about 47% of the country? ie, those that voted for someone that doesn&#039;t believe in science (or so he claimed over and over, in so many words)?
say that&#039;s an exaggeration ;-), the &quot;dumb monkeys&quot; who believe in creationism, or can&#039;t be corrected of their ignorance is probably still a solid 30%, and i&#039;m being charitable.  our economy will do much worse if we don&#039;t enable their tax dollars, no?
i&#039;d love to restrict their votes, but who decides who votes?  slippery slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we&#8217;re just talking about &#8220;dumb monkeys&#8221;  maybe that&#8217;s anyone who has 70%ile intelligence or lower?  in this country, unfortunately that&#8217;s like 80% of the people.<br />
based upon the most recent national election, aren&#8217;t we talking about 47% of the country? ie, those that voted for someone that doesn&#8217;t believe in science (or so he claimed over and over, in so many words)?<br />
say that&#8217;s an exaggeration ;-), the &#8220;dumb monkeys&#8221; who believe in creationism, or can&#8217;t be corrected of their ignorance is probably still a solid 30%, and i&#8217;m being charitable.  our economy will do much worse if we don&#8217;t enable their tax dollars, no?<br />
i&#8217;d love to restrict their votes, but who decides who votes?  slippery slope.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;where do you intend to leave them?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;d like to leave them without vast control of our government, natural resources, human rights, etc.  They need to be sidelined while the rest of us try to fix this horrific mess they&#039;ve made for us all.  They&#039;ve proven themselves not only to be inept, but also &lt;i&gt;dangerous&lt;/i&gt;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;how far do you think we can get without their economic/ populous input?&lt;/blockquote&gt;It would be like releasing chains on humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>where do you intend to leave them?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d like to leave them without vast control of our government, natural resources, human rights, etc.  They need to be sidelined while the rest of us try to fix this horrific mess they&#8217;ve made for us all.  They&#8217;ve proven themselves not only to be inept, but also <i>dangerous</i>.</p>
<blockquote><p>how far do you think we can get without their economic/ populous input?</p></blockquote>
<p>It would be like releasing chains on humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Martijn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an enormous difference between deism and creationism, especially young-earth creationism. Any decent scientist will say there&#039;s nothing inherently wrong with believing that God created the universe 14 billion years ago. There is plenty of room for a belief in God. There is no reasonable room for a belief that the earth was formed and populated during a 7 day period a couple of thousand years ago (unless you resort to last-tuesdayism, which is indeed a tenable philosophical position).

I&#039;m a Christian, and my position is that if your personal interpretation of the bible contradicts observable and provable facts, then you&#039;d have to be unbelievably arrogant to think that your interpretation trumps reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an enormous difference between deism and creationism, especially young-earth creationism. Any decent scientist will say there&#8217;s nothing inherently wrong with believing that God created the universe 14 billion years ago. There is plenty of room for a belief in God. There is no reasonable room for a belief that the earth was formed and populated during a 7 day period a couple of thousand years ago (unless you resort to last-tuesdayism, which is indeed a tenable philosophical position).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Christian, and my position is that if your personal interpretation of the bible contradicts observable and provable facts, then you&#8217;d have to be unbelievably arrogant to think that your interpretation trumps reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t even make sense.

&quot;Why, that feller looks like one of those science-y folks. Why should I trust HIS opinion about science?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t even make sense.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why, that feller looks like one of those science-y folks. Why should I trust HIS opinion about science?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> How do you dress and style yourself when punditting for science on television?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> How do you dress and style yourself when punditting for science on television?</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuyNamedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuyNamedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is the average viewer who probably is already leery of science will use his appearance to dismiss him without listening to him and since these people vote, yes it matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is the average viewer who probably is already leery of science will use his appearance to dismiss him without listening to him and since these people vote, yes it matters.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuyNamedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuyNamedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Well maybe if they are physicians but what about physicists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Well maybe if they are physicians but what about physicists?</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where do you intend to leave them?  how far do you think we can get without their economic/ populous input?  
seriously, questions i struggle with myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where do you intend to leave them?  how far do you think we can get without their economic/ populous input? <br />
seriously, questions i struggle with myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> perhaps people that are strong enough to continue the good fight are causing the tide to change as soon as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> perhaps people that are strong enough to continue the good fight are causing the tide to change as soon as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That said though, I do think his view on creationism is really short-sighted. In fact, he might be surprised to learn that about half the scientists in the world are deists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;On the &quot;religiosity&quot; scale, deism is about as far from creationism as you can possibly get.  Your opposition to atheism is completely off-topic.

If you&#039;re going to say &quot;well, deism is creationism because you believe the universe is &lt;em&gt;created&lt;/em&gt;&quot; don&#039;t bother.  It&#039;s one of the stupidest arguments ever made, right up there with Otto&#039;s (of the Simpsons) &quot;they call them fingers but you never see them fing!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That said though, I do think his view on creationism is really short-sighted. In fact, he might be surprised to learn that about half the scientists in the world are deists.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the &#8220;religiosity&#8221; scale, deism is about as far from creationism as you can possibly get.  Your opposition to atheism is completely off-topic.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to say &#8220;well, deism is creationism because you believe the universe is <em>created</em>&#8221; don&#8217;t bother.  It&#8217;s one of the stupidest arguments ever made, right up there with Otto&#8217;s (of the Simpsons) &#8220;they call them fingers but you never see them fing!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> you know their voting record is public, as is some of their campaign contributions (if late in the cycle), right?  show me someone who votes aggregiously against their public perceived-constituency pandering and i&#039;ll show you an ex-congress-person.  they need to be held more-accountable, it&#039;s just really hard to do.  how do you prove someone (someone whom is paid to talk) is knowingly lying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> you know their voting record is public, as is some of their campaign contributions (if late in the cycle), right?  show me someone who votes aggregiously against their public perceived-constituency pandering and i&#8217;ll show you an ex-congress-person.  they need to be held more-accountable, it&#8217;s just really hard to do.  how do you prove someone (someone whom is paid to talk) is knowingly lying?</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> there are certain innate needs that are getting easier and easier to attain/provide in the modern world and our &quot;collective goals&quot; should reflect providing an environment enabling such.  Many global and US governing bodies accept these as truths.  housing, clothing, food, jobs, healthcare, education, etc (collectively aka &quot;dignity&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> there are certain innate needs that are getting easier and easier to attain/provide in the modern world and our &#8220;collective goals&#8221; should reflect providing an environment enabling such.  Many global and US governing bodies accept these as truths.  housing, clothing, food, jobs, healthcare, education, etc (collectively aka &#8220;dignity&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> He has a point.  For example, there are no big-budget space opera or post-apocalyptic porn movies out there.  For my kind of kicks imagination is the only way to go.

Unless we can convince James Cameron to start doing erotica.  Letter writing campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> He has a point.  For example, there are no big-budget space opera or post-apocalyptic porn movies out there.  For my kind of kicks imagination is the only way to go.</p>
<p>Unless we can convince James Cameron to start doing erotica.  Letter writing campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: OoerictoO</title>
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		<dc:creator>OoerictoO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are talking about long-term economics.  and i agree.  but most of the big players in our economy these days are only concerned with quarterly results (at best).  we need to get our elected representatives fix this for us.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are talking about long-term economics.  and i agree.  but most of the big players in our economy these days are only concerned with quarterly results (at best).  we need to get our elected representatives fix this for us.  </p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The &quot;all agree&quot; is really the most important point.  The really compelling thing about science is that different theories fit together into a larger tapestry.  It&#039;s easy to fit a theory to some data in an ad hoc way, but doing so gives you silos, a collection of theories that don&#039;t interact.  You can make a young earth theory internally coherent but you&#039;re not going to make it consilient with the main body of scientific theory and evidence.

Another way to say it is if your theory being true requires almost all other scientific knowledge to be false you probably need to go back to the drawing board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The &#8220;all agree&#8221; is really the most important point.  The really compelling thing about science is that different theories fit together into a larger tapestry.  It&#8217;s easy to fit a theory to some data in an ad hoc way, but doing so gives you silos, a collection of theories that don&#8217;t interact.  You can make a young earth theory internally coherent but you&#8217;re not going to make it consilient with the main body of scientific theory and evidence.</p>
<p>Another way to say it is if your theory being true requires almost all other scientific knowledge to be false you probably need to go back to the drawing board.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That&#039;s an outstanding question if you have a couple of hours to talk about it.  It&#039;s not a very good setup for a 30 second answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s an outstanding question if you have a couple of hours to talk about it.  It&#8217;s not a very good setup for a 30 second answer.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShirt77</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/01/bill-nye-tells-us-how-old-the.html#comment-1597116</link>
		<dc:creator>RedShirt77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I was about to make this point. The man is sleepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I was about to make this point. The man is sleepy.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShirt77</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedShirt77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Bill is both an actor and an actual scientist.  So I think the character he created for the public is about who he really is as well as a persona that he felt would make science fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Bill is both an actor and an actual scientist.  So I think the character he created for the public is about who he really is as well as a persona that he felt would make science fun.</p>
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		<title>By: coastwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>coastwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being told by a cult that the earth is only 4000 years old against the scientific method that provides the house you live in the food you eat and the medicine that keeps you alive ought not to be up for debate. The newscasters are not broadcasting news, its irresponsible entertainment fantasy against scientific fact. The churches are behaving extremely badly by going along with this, they don&#039;t need to fight science to propagate their memes, in fact by discrediting it in the face of an overpopulated earth they are deliberately courting human extinction events by making it all-right to ignore science like Climate Change.

Well I&#039;m sick of the lot of you, I cant be bothered to reason with you any more, I&#039;m astonished that nice reasonable people like Bill Nye continue to try and do so.

Just remember this, those of us who believe that science is a useful tool and does the job of identifying how the universe works very well, just remember when the first couple of billion people die as a result of climate change or something else we discovered by using science. Just remember that we told you so but you chose to be stupid and cleverly argue your way out of responsibility for anything because it went against your religious beliefs.

I believe that religious zealotry itself damns the human race to extinction. That&#039;s not a scientific fact unlike the age of the earth but it is my belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being told by a cult that the earth is only 4000 years old against the scientific method that provides the house you live in the food you eat and the medicine that keeps you alive ought not to be up for debate. The newscasters are not broadcasting news, its irresponsible entertainment fantasy against scientific fact. The churches are behaving extremely badly by going along with this, they don&#8217;t need to fight science to propagate their memes, in fact by discrediting it in the face of an overpopulated earth they are deliberately courting human extinction events by making it all-right to ignore science like Climate Change.</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m sick of the lot of you, I cant be bothered to reason with you any more, I&#8217;m astonished that nice reasonable people like Bill Nye continue to try and do so.</p>
<p>Just remember this, those of us who believe that science is a useful tool and does the job of identifying how the universe works very well, just remember when the first couple of billion people die as a result of climate change or something else we discovered by using science. Just remember that we told you so but you chose to be stupid and cleverly argue your way out of responsibility for anything because it went against your religious beliefs.</p>
<p>I believe that religious zealotry itself damns the human race to extinction. That&#8217;s not a scientific fact unlike the age of the earth but it is my belief.</p>
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		<title>By: Lithi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lithi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> HuffPo had a similar article, but tacked on that Robertson thought porn was boring. No, seriously. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/28/pat-robertson-creationism-earth-is-not-6000-years-old_n_2207275.html

I wanna raid his browser cache, providing he doesn&#039;t delete it on a regular basis or use private browsing. Also, check out his DVD stash. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> HuffPo had a similar article, but tacked on that Robertson thought porn was boring. No, seriously. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/28/pat-robertson-creationism-earth-is-not-6000-years-old_n_2207275.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/28/pat-robertson-creationism-earth-is-not-6000-years-old_n_2207275.html</a></p>
<p>I wanna raid his browser cache, providing he doesn&#8217;t delete it on a regular basis or use private browsing. Also, check out his DVD stash. </p>
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		<title>By: Tennnfan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/01/bill-nye-tells-us-how-old-the.html#comment-1596747</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennnfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not like, say, Baptists.&quot; For what it&#039;s worth, there is no one way that Baptists believe. There are hundreds of different Baptist denominations around the world, and they agree on almost nothing. Even if you&#039;re thinking the Southern Baptist Convention in the U.S., as radical and conservative as that umbrella organization has become, it does not dictate the beliefs of individual churches or members. 

Sorry to make the point, but as a liberal Baptist who fully subscribes to the theory of evolution, it felt like a distinction worth making!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not like, say, Baptists.&#8221; For what it&#8217;s worth, there is no one way that Baptists believe. There are hundreds of different Baptist denominations around the world, and they agree on almost nothing. Even if you&#8217;re thinking the Southern Baptist Convention in the U.S., as radical and conservative as that umbrella organization has become, it does not dictate the beliefs of individual churches or members. </p>
<p>Sorry to make the point, but as a liberal Baptist who fully subscribes to the theory of evolution, it felt like a distinction worth making!</p>
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		<title>By: capl</title>
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		<dc:creator>capl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The point of a bow tie in science is that you won&#039;t light it on fire with your Bunsen burner like you can easily do with a regular tie. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The point of a bow tie in science is that you won&#8217;t light it on fire with your Bunsen burner like you can easily do with a regular tie. </p>
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		<title>By: SumAnon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/01/bill-nye-tells-us-how-old-the.html#comment-1596609</link>
		<dc:creator>SumAnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Raaaaaaaaaa-men</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Raaaaaaaaaa-men</p>
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		<title>By: OgilvyTheAstronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>OgilvyTheAstronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A deist is just an atheist who doesn&#039;t want to pick a fight. Just choose any emergent property of a materialistic universe, call that &quot;god&quot; and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A deist is just an atheist who doesn&#8217;t want to pick a fight. Just choose any emergent property of a materialistic universe, call that &#8220;god&#8221; and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time to leave these dumb monkeys behind and for the rest of us to evolve.  There&#039;s no hope for these apes; We&#039;re just wasting our time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to leave these dumb monkeys behind and for the rest of us to evolve.  There&#8217;s no hope for these apes; We&#8217;re just wasting our time.</p>
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