Public interest groups fly to Auckland, NZ to meet with TPP negotiators, are only allowed in the building to give a 15-minute joint presentation


15 Responses to “Public interest groups fly to Auckland, NZ to meet with TPP negotiators, are only allowed in the building to give a 15-minute joint presentation”

  1. ldobe says:

    Utter cowardace. The TPP process is made up of terrified children. I’m thinking we should approach them with disgust and contempt. The negotiators are so afraid of the will of the people they represent that they know if they’re exposed they’ll be strung up in the political and social consciousness.

    If they really believe that they are representing the people’s interests they wouldn’t display such vile acts of utter weakness.

    If their constituents understood they were being sold down the river, the TPP process would never have progressed this far.

  2. Spocko says:

    This sucks. Here is my question. What kind of leverage can do we have over these people? They just go out and make up rules? Are they basically an unelected cabal? 
    What can be used to stop them? 

    • ldobe says:

      There’s no way to stop them other than concerted and sustained public outrage. Treaty negotiators (of the U.S.) are appointed positions within the executive branch of government. We have no way to evict them from office. And if enough people are mad as hell, they may be politically pressured into changing their positions. But there’s no guarantee, and since the TPP is being negotiated in secret, there’s no damning information available to show how they are absolutely prostituted to the copyright industry.

      Technically they are supposed to act in the best interest of the American people. They have been convinced for decades that copyright maximalism is good for the country, which is an unsupported position.

      In this arena, the government serves only the copyright industry to the detriment of American culture.

  3. Spocko says:

    There is a reason they held it in Auckland and not Oakland. Keeps the rif raff out. If you can’t afford to fly in and whine and dine they don’t want you there.

  4. aurora chair says:

    Don’t you get it. The Canadian govt did the same thing. It’s called PRETENDING you listen to people and have empirical evidence that there was a possibility that you listened to people. Basically these groups taking part shows it has the rubber stamp of the concerned experts, citizens groups and electorate.

    By participating you are validating.

  5. SedanChair says:

    I think that’s called “good job, you just turned our delegation into a protest march”

  6. Jonathan Roberts says:

    If corporations are people too, why do governments listen to them?

  7. Andrew Kay says:

    So they said “fuck you, fuck you, fuck you” for 15 minutes, right?

    • Richard says:

      I was just trying to work out how you could stretch a “FUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOUUUUU!” to last 15 minutes.

      Maybe you could translate it into as many different languages as possible, just to make sure they got the message.

  8. Boundegar says:

    “These new physical restrictions on us are reflective of the ongoing lack of transparency that has plagued the TPP negotiations from the very beginning.”

    I don’t think they feel plagued.  In fact, the secrecy just might be by design.

  9. Florian Bösch says:

    TPP: proudly innovating new heights in dumbarsery, douchbaggery and wanton malice.

  10. James Penrose says:

    “If they really believe that they are representing the people’s interests….”

    They no more believe they are representing the “people” than they believe the Sun goes around the Earth.

    They know *exactly* what they are doing and you and I don’t figure into it. Individual freedom is out of fashion at almost all levels of society and government, it’s not terribly convenient for one thing as it requires individual initiative and responsibility and the bulk of individuals do not want that as opposed to some phantom “security”, that does not and never will, exist if everyone just does what they are told.

    That’s why even Apple which used to trumpet ‘Think Different” now really says “Think our way or hit the highway” and people line up for days to buy their stuff.

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