Comments on: Star Trek 2 trailer!

By: John G

John G — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:24:00 +0000

Hey, careful now! I live in the Tenderloin! In our (admittedly questionable) corner of San Francisco, we pay homage to Star Trek by following our own variation on the Prime Directive, i.e., Don’t Snitch.

By: Halloween_Jack

Halloween_Jack — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:07:00 +0000

My guess is that they beefed up the structural integrity field (the sort of internal force field that keeps the ship from tearing itself apart while maneuvering at high speeds) and inertial dampening field (the application of artificial gravity that keeps the ship’s crew from being smashed to a paste against a bulkhead during those same high-speed turns). You’re right about things getting pushed forward a century or so; Voyager, which was about as long as the original Constitution-class Enterprise, could land on a planet surface.

By: Donald Petersen

Donald Petersen — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:32:00 +0000

That’s a bummer. I moved to L.A. in 1991, and the biggest adjustments were the lack of free parking, and the lack of left-turn arrows at controlled intersections (except at Sunset and La Brea, for some reason). San Diego used to be awfully car-friendly. Even the beach parking was free.

I miss the place, but though I went down there every weekend for over ten years, I haven’t been down there in ages now. I don’t expect it’s changed for the better, alas, when it comes to bureaucratic and overcrowding-based effects on the quality of life.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:06:00 +0000

That sounds about right for the year.

My last visit to SD was in 2001 to take my RE exam. I went with a friend, and after I finished the exam and we wanted to hang out around town, we spent an extraordinary amount of time trying to find a temporary parking space so that one of us could run into a bank to get a roll of coins so that we could get a less temporary parking space.

By: Donald Petersen

Donald Petersen — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:56:00 +0000

If you were a pretty young fella at the time, I’d be tempted to guess that that particular trip might have occurred during the winter of ’79-’80. The rains that winter were heavy enough to wash out the only road in or out of the canyon I grew up in, and caused a lot of nasty flooding. Hasn’t rained nearly that hard since.

Some day you should arrange another trip so SD can redeem itself. A sunny afternoon in Balboa Park is about as splendid an experience as a modern human can find.

By: OtherMichael

OtherMichael — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:35:00 +0000

And that weird red space temple? That’s what, Saskatchewan with mutant kudzu?

By: OtherMichael

OtherMichael — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:32:00 +0000

It would be a certain kind of awesome to have William Shatner as a ST:JJA villain

By: OtherMichael

OtherMichael — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:53:00 +0000

It reminds me way too much of the dress uniforms they are wearing in the beginning of the film, as opposed to all the other clothing they are wearing at other points of the film.

OTOH, this is from JJ Abrams — there’s no way he’d try to be teasingly mis-leading in a trailer!

By: Matthew Petty

Matthew Petty — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:48:00 +0000

Or just The Tenderloin

By: Matthew Petty

Matthew Petty — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:48:00 +0000

Or judging by the comments about ST’s representations of race, “COHENNNNNNNN!!!”

By: Sam Pourasghar

Sam Pourasghar — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:17:00 +0000

“These English are not so stupid as they look…” – Italian Job

I don’t care what happens in the film, I just need to hear KHAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!

By: Jim Christian 

Jim Christian  — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:42:00 +0000

What if it’s not Khan, but in fact Garth of Izar? http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Garth_of_Izar

Edit: Whoops, someone beat me to it.

By: nowimnothing

nowimnothing — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:33:00 +0000

True, I forgot about the image of the ship on the surface in the beginning of the new movie. So I guess that means that the technological advancement at the start of new Kirk’s life of even further along than it was by the end of old Kirk’s life. The Narada pushed technology at least 100 years forward.

Still seems a flimsy design for operating in a gravity well. It would have to come with some major advancements in materials science.

By: headcode

headcode — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 06:40:00 +0000

No, it’s official. Science fiction is dead.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 06:20:00 +0000

Funnily enough, every time that I’ve been to SD, the weather’s been HORRIBLE. Years ago, I went down from SF for a four day weekend with a friend, and it was 39° and pouring the whole time. The trip to the Safari Park was slightly less enjoyable than the internment camp in Cairo or getting bayoneted in Kathmandu.

By: Donald Petersen

Donald Petersen — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:23:00 +0000

Y’all need to import some marine layer. It’s what passes for our “winter” out here on June Saturdays and the week after New Year’s. Helps us even out our carcinomas while we reflect on lost loves and missed opportunities during solitary walks on empty beaches.

By: Avram Grumer

Avram Grumer — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:01:00 +0000

Or negative lens flares, little patches of darkness.

By: cdh1971

cdh1971 — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 01:10:00 +0000

I don’t know about you but I take comfort in that.

By: cdh1971

cdh1971 — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:58:00 +0000

Thanks for the lead, I’ll check it out.

(The special features and other extras…this is one of the reasons I still buy the physical media of that which I find important.)

By: joe blough

joe blough — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:14:00 +0000

plays okay right in the browser… as long as your browser is safari :)

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:06:00 +0000

It’s on one of the special features for the series. I think that it was Brannon Braga talking about it.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:04:00 +0000

330? How do you live? 355 here. And that generally means all sunshine from horizon to horizon all day. It’s actually kind of psychotogenic.

By: johnyaya

johnyaya — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:50:00 +0000

You’ll be able to recognize Evil Starfleet HQ by the lack of lens flares.

By: cdh1971

cdh1971 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:20:00 +0000

Armin Shimerman specialized in playing Shylock on stage (not in WikiP ftw, but I _know_ he was.)

Hi injected a bit of Shylock into Quark, but he injected the lesser known decent part of Shylock that is driven by justice and what is right – he brought just a Smidge of Shylock to the role — and I’m glad he did. I’ve always liked Shylock (and I think Shakespeare liked him too.)

Recall — Quark always helped the underdog*, the desperate, the needy and he did so in such a way that the recipient of his charity didn’t really know that they had just received charity — indeed, they thought that they just got the better part of the deal — they outsmarted Quark — and they leave with their dignity intact.

This principle – the giving of charity anonymously, or in such a way that the recipient’s dignity is intact ’cause they thought they got the better deal — this is the highest form of charity in Judaism. In this sense, Quark a very good Jew, and I believe, based on other episodes, this is an aspect of Ferenghi culture, despite their cut-throat Randian bravado.

http://www.aish.com/tp/b/ll/48957066.html

Oh…just remembered, in the NG episode in which Ferenghi take over the Enterprise and the Command Officers are turned into children – the Ferenghi could not deny any of their requests, especially when they started to whine. This rings some bells with me in my own life.

*recall how Quark supported the Bajoran resistance and refused to take any profit — and in the mirror universe, did the same for the enslaved Terrans — was discovered and paid for this with his life.

By: GawainLavers

GawainLavers — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:05:00 +0000

Oh yeah, that'll end well.

By: Kurt Thomas

Kurt Thomas — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:00:00 +0000

The guy with the hood is lifted from Assasin’s Creed and all that lava stuff from Star Wars III, and the September 11 stuff from the Star Trek: Enterprise series, and all the colorful foliage from Christopher Doyle… isn’t it?

By: Halloween_Jack

Halloween_Jack — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:00:00 +0000

He was beaten by a big gun in the second TOS pilot. Maybe he grabbed it from Kirk here and just likes to lug it around.

By: Halloween_Jack

Halloween_Jack — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:59:00 +0000

The canon is that the central fact of reboot continuity centers around almost everything being different from the moment that the Narada (the huge 24th century Romulan mining ship) came back in time and destroyed the Kelvin, the ship that Kirk's dad and mom were on. The current Enterprise is much larger than that of the original series and the interiors are obviously much different; this is probably due to Starfleet's R&D process dealing with the knowledge that a much more techically-advanced ship than anything that they had was running around the galaxy somewhere, as far as they knew. So, maybe it can withstand the stress of operating in a gravity well; it was built in an Earthbound dry dock, after all.

By: cdh1971

cdh1971 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:49:00 +0000

Yes, this too…good point. thx

By: cdh1971

cdh1971 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:46:00 +0000

Yes — Mudd. Harcourt Fenton “Harry” Mudd. And His Women. And His Passion. Sans Creepy Androids.

Perhaps a nice NSFW webisode featuring this plotline:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudd%27s_Passion