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	<title>Comments on: University of California&#039;s new&#160;logo</title>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604963</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize we could just photoshop superior comments! Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize we could just photoshop superior comments! Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Girard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604865</link>
		<dc:creator>Girard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. The monogram is what was used as the basis for the motifs in the logo. Both images will continue to be used by the university, but in different capacities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. The monogram is what was used as the basis for the motifs in the logo. Both images will continue to be used by the university, but in different capacities.</p>
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		<title>By: Girard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604863</link>
		<dc:creator>Girard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be fair, the old one looks like an utterly generic 19th-century bookplate or masthead logo. Neither is great. The first functions better as a seal, the second one functions better as a logo. Which, luckily, is apparently how the two images will be put to use from here on out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be fair, the old one looks like an utterly generic 19th-century bookplate or masthead logo. Neither is great. The first functions better as a seal, the second one functions better as a logo. Which, luckily, is apparently how the two images will be put to use from here on out.</p>
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		<title>By: Girard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604861</link>
		<dc:creator>Girard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by &quot;this place&quot; you mean the UC schools, you&#039;re mistaken, as the seal and the logo will both continue to be used, as you described.
If by &quot;this place&quot; you mean Boing Boing...well, I don&#039;t know the answer,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;this place&#8221; you mean the UC schools, you&#8217;re mistaken, as the seal and the logo will both continue to be used, as you described.<br />
If by &#8220;this place&#8221; you mean Boing Boing&#8230;well, I don&#8217;t know the answer,</p>
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		<title>By: ohbejoyful</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604846</link>
		<dc:creator>ohbejoyful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s always just been a big C.  There is a tradition to go up and repaint it the night before the annual football game with Stanford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s always just been a big C.  There is a tradition to go up and repaint it the night before the annual football game with Stanford.</p>
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		<title>By: myke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604706</link>
		<dc:creator>myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems  everyone has missed the most useful feature of the new logo design.  If it is meant to appear on brochures and advertisement (mentioned in the article), it is perfectly suited for California High School Seniors as it does not require literacy to understand.  It may actually be somewhat more difficult for the litterate because the &#039;U&#039; and &#039;C&#039; (particularly with gradient) are poor representations of the actual characters.  A truly appropriate representation of and for the California educational system.

No, I&#039;m not bitter :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems  everyone has missed the most useful feature of the new logo design.  If it is meant to appear on brochures and advertisement (mentioned in the article), it is perfectly suited for California High School Seniors as it does not require literacy to understand.  It may actually be somewhat more difficult for the litterate because the &#8216;U&#8217; and &#8216;C&#8217; (particularly with gradient) are poor representations of the actual characters.  A truly appropriate representation of and for the California educational system.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not bitter :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Worley</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604636</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Worley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my point is the seal is not going away.  It will still appear on official stationary and letters from the UC.  However, the new logo will replace dozens of different type faces and home-grown logos to try and give a comprehensive branding approach. The seal is not going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my point is the seal is not going away.  It will still appear on official stationary and letters from the UC.  However, the new logo will replace dozens of different type faces and home-grown logos to try and give a comprehensive branding approach. The seal is not going away.</p>
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		<title>By: cleveremi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604418</link>
		<dc:creator>cleveremi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;re probably right. I&#039;m just an oldster who remembers, fondly, the days of written evaluations (instead of grades). Ah, the good old days... now I have to go because there are kids. on. my. lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re probably right. I&#8217;m just an oldster who remembers, fondly, the days of written evaluations (instead of grades). Ah, the good old days&#8230; now I have to go because there are kids. on. my. lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604355</link>
		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you see, eventually our university system will become an app (see Coursera, for example). This new logo is slightly ahead of its time, but not much, and you can look forward to seeing this pretty little icon on a touch screen near you when the university system re-boots as College 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you see, eventually our university system will become an app (see Coursera, for example). This new logo is slightly ahead of its time, but not much, and you can look forward to seeing this pretty little icon on a touch screen near you when the university system re-boots as College 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Festus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604307</link>
		<dc:creator>Festus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Funny, I got much more irritated after watching the video. Maybe because I am an historian and know a bit about why and how the original logo was chosen. The original is gracious, it is elegant, it lasted through many technological and social changes. The new one is destined to be replaced in a few years by something equally awful and short-lived. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Funny, I got much more irritated after watching the video. Maybe because I am an historian and know a bit about why and how the original logo was chosen. The original is gracious, it is elegant, it lasted through many technological and social changes. The new one is destined to be replaced in a few years by something equally awful and short-lived. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Festus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604304</link>
		<dc:creator>Festus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is really difficult to get grads of California, UCLA, Davis and the rest to agree on anything. Congratulations, terrible overpaid branding folks, you&#039;ve done it! We all hate what you are trying to do to a perfectly lovely and serviceable &quot;brand.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really difficult to get grads of California, UCLA, Davis and the rest to agree on anything. Congratulations, terrible overpaid branding folks, you&#8217;ve done it! We all hate what you are trying to do to a perfectly lovely and serviceable &#8220;brand.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604295</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not a logo. It&#039;s the University seal, and it&#039;s not actually being replaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not a logo. It&#8217;s the University seal, and it&#8217;s not actually being replaced.</p>
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		<title>By: oligonucleotide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604291</link>
		<dc:creator>oligonucleotide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem may be that neither the old logo nor the new one look good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem may be that neither the old logo nor the new one look good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: oligonucleotide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604288</link>
		<dc:creator>oligonucleotide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should keep the old logo but put an iPad istead of the book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should keep the old logo but put an iPad istead of the book</p>
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		<title>By: oligonucleotide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604284</link>
		<dc:creator>oligonucleotide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly it LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly it LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Webb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604273</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the yellow/blue colour scheme and awful jpg compression, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the yellow/blue colour scheme and awful jpg compression, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Faith Landsman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604219</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith Landsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be the logo from a UC Peyronie&#039;s disease research group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be the logo from a UC Peyronie&#8217;s disease research group.</p>
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		<title>By: gmills</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604177</link>
		<dc:creator>gmills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oski wept. </description>
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		<title>By: Gijs Peetsold</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604170</link>
		<dc:creator>Gijs Peetsold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, you just saved me 3 minutes of photoshopping. And:

&quot;I see designers get their ideas at the same place as the rest of us.&quot;

Again, thanks.

 I feel better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, you just saved me 3 minutes of photoshopping. And:</p>
<p>&#8220;I see designers get their ideas at the same place as the rest of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, thanks.</p>
<p> I feel better now.</p>
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		<title>By: hexopogs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604159</link>
		<dc:creator>hexopogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks almost exactly like a Ziiiro watch face.</description>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604112</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was an undergrad, my university changed the logo when I was a senior. I didn&#039;t have anything with the logo on it - and didn&#039;t realize I&#039;d actually want things with the school&#039;s logo on it at some point in my life, so I didn&#039;t rush to buy things with the original logo - and now I can&#039;t buy anything out of principle.

I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if UC schools kept some things with the original logo around in the shops, though. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was an undergrad, my university changed the logo when I was a senior. I didn&#8217;t have anything with the logo on it &#8211; and didn&#8217;t realize I&#8217;d actually want things with the school&#8217;s logo on it at some point in my life, so I didn&#8217;t rush to buy things with the original logo &#8211; and now I can&#8217;t buy anything out of principle.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if UC schools kept some things with the original logo around in the shops, though. </p>
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		<title>By: Deermag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deermag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant see this. It&#039;s still didn&#039;t loaded yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant see this. It&#8217;s still didn&#8217;t loaded yet</p>
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		<title>By: fergus1948</title>
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		<dc:creator>fergus1948</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I  think that&#039;s why other commenters have pointed out that putting a gradient in a logo is almost certainly bound to end in tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I  think that&#8217;s why other commenters have pointed out that putting a gradient in a logo is almost certainly bound to end in tears.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMudshark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1604050</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMudshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the gradient is just frivolous.</description>
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		<title>By: TheMudshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMudshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever else it is, it is more distinctive than the old one. A bunch of stuff with circular writing around it? There must be tens of thousands of logos like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever else it is, it is more distinctive than the old one. A bunch of stuff with circular writing around it? There must be tens of thousands of logos like that.</p>
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		<title>By: lishevita</title>
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		<dc:creator>lishevita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hurts. I am a sad bear now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It hurts. I am a sad bear now.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you&#039;re trying to posit yourself as a member of the tribe that&#039;s Just Too Clever To Be Taken In By People Who Claim To Know About &quot;Design&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you&#8217;re trying to posit yourself as a member of the tribe that&#8217;s Just Too Clever To Be Taken In By People Who Claim To Know About &#8220;Design&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Reuterberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jens Reuterberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... I thought it was ok. Not great but ok and better than the old one. Wasn&#039;t there a post like this a few months back where people got really huffy about some new character design on a box of cereal? ... They thought it was too unrealistic or something?


Same kind of whine-fest where people proved their design-skills by saying something was bad (in the same way I &quot;prove&quot; my 1337-hacker skills by saying commonplace like &quot;Vista was badly made&quot;). 
Or that Jesus-image remade by a Spanish woman. Allot of people who couldn&#039;t draw a pair of boobs to save their life got all huffy and snort-laughing without even contemplating the difference between art-by-school or art-by-emotion.

The trick here I think is just join the crowd of snort-laughers - or let them get on with it - because it has nothing to do with aesthetics and all about identity creation by agreement. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; I thought it was ok. Not great but ok and better than the old one. Wasn&#8217;t there a post like this a few months back where people got really huffy about some new character design on a box of cereal? &#8230; They thought it was too unrealistic or something?</p>
<p>Same kind of whine-fest where people proved their design-skills by saying something was bad (in the same way I &#8220;prove&#8221; my 1337-hacker skills by saying commonplace like &#8220;Vista was badly made&#8221;). <br />
Or that Jesus-image remade by a Spanish woman. Allot of people who couldn&#8217;t draw a pair of boobs to save their life got all huffy and snort-laughing without even contemplating the difference between art-by-school or art-by-emotion.</p>
<p>The trick here I think is just join the crowd of snort-laughers &#8211; or let them get on with it &#8211; because it has nothing to do with aesthetics and all about identity creation by agreement. </p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no opinion on this.</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Reilly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/10/university-of-californias-ne.html#comment-1603960</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FTW!  Couldn&#039;t agree more. This isn&#039;t a matter of lay people critiquing the more esoteric elements of design or design theory. It&#039;s a matter of a logo that does almost nothing of what a logo is supposed to do and it doesn&#039;t take a designer to recognize that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FTW!  Couldn&#8217;t agree more. This isn&#8217;t a matter of lay people critiquing the more esoteric elements of design or design theory. It&#8217;s a matter of a logo that does almost nothing of what a logo is supposed to do and it doesn&#8217;t take a designer to recognize that. </p>
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