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	<title>Comments on: Literacy privilege, or, why grammar nazis are&#160;dicks</title>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607736</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Except this is a straw man argument, what really happens is that &quot;doctors&quot; who know a lot about medicine tell you to shut your pie hole about particle physics because you don&#039;t know your spleen from your liver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Except this is a straw man argument, what really happens is that &#8220;doctors&#8221; who know a lot about medicine tell you to shut your pie hole about particle physics because you don&#8217;t know your spleen from your liver.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> And we would´nt want to undermine the meaning of privilege would we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> And we would´nt want to undermine the meaning of privilege would we?</p>
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		<title>By: noah django</title>
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		<dc:creator>noah django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? </p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607702</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> According to your view, pedantic people are the problem, I agree with you.

You also try to make the point that having more knowledge than other people because you worked at it is not a privilege, which makes the assumption that everybody starts out with a level playing field, which is not true.

100 years ago, not everybody could read, not because they couldn&#039;t learn, but many because it was believed they shouldn&#039;t be taught.

You are making the assumption that since things are better now, then the world is fair now as well. This is not true.

Maybe 100 years from now, 100% of people who are ignorant on any given subject will be ignorant because they do not wish to work hard at knowing, That is not true of today anywhere in the world.

Being privileged means having/knowing something other people don&#039;t have/know. Being privileged in this manner is not inherently bad. Finding fault in others because they do not possess something which you do, can be. (Bad. I mean, it can be bad).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> According to your view, pedantic people are the problem, I agree with you.</p>
<p>You also try to make the point that having more knowledge than other people because you worked at it is not a privilege, which makes the assumption that everybody starts out with a level playing field, which is not true.</p>
<p>100 years ago, not everybody could read, not because they couldn&#8217;t learn, but many because it was believed they shouldn&#8217;t be taught.</p>
<p>You are making the assumption that since things are better now, then the world is fair now as well. This is not true.</p>
<p>Maybe 100 years from now, 100% of people who are ignorant on any given subject will be ignorant because they do not wish to work hard at knowing, That is not true of today anywhere in the world.</p>
<p>Being privileged means having/knowing something other people don&#8217;t have/know. Being privileged in this manner is not inherently bad. Finding fault in others because they do not possess something which you do, can be. (Bad. I mean, it can be bad).</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607621</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> If the people you &quot;grammar-snob&quot; to put up with your &quot;grammar snobness&quot;, then great (Though I suspect they too think you&#039;re being a jerk but put up with you anyway because you are a friend)

But, I don&#039;t see how you are adding to a conversation on grammar snobbing to a general audience by merely stating this and then defending your position.

It would make sense if you read this and felt it somehow described you and you needed to defend yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> If the people you &#8220;grammar-snob&#8221; to put up with your &#8220;grammar snobness&#8221;, then great (Though I suspect they too think you&#8217;re being a jerk but put up with you anyway because you are a friend)</p>
<p>But, I don&#8217;t see how you are adding to a conversation on grammar snobbing to a general audience by merely stating this and then defending your position.</p>
<p>It would make sense if you read this and felt it somehow described you and you needed to defend yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607607</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corollary of my comment is that believing your hard work is your own, and forgetting what it took to get you to do things is what causes you to not notice the foundation of privilege that helped get you were you are today. You actually believe that YOU are fully responsible for your education.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corollary of my comment is that believing your hard work is your own, and forgetting what it took to get you to do things is what causes you to not notice the foundation of privilege that helped get you were you are today. You actually believe that YOU are fully responsible for your education.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607600</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats right, the teacher works hard to get 20-30 kids in a clasroom to work hard because if they were left in a room all by themselves, there might be cases where kids worked hard to decipher our written language, but most would not. In other words, kids work is contingent on the work of other people. This does not diminish their effort but it is not one born out of an intrinsic drive on the kids part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats right, the teacher works hard to get 20-30 kids in a clasroom to work hard because if they were left in a room all by themselves, there might be cases where kids worked hard to decipher our written language, but most would not. In other words, kids work is contingent on the work of other people. This does not diminish their effort but it is not one born out of an intrinsic drive on the kids part.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your family was educated. Your family was able to supply glasses to overcome your sub-perfect vision. I&#039;d consider both of these factors privileges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your family was educated. Your family was able to supply glasses to overcome your sub-perfect vision. I&#8217;d consider both of these factors privileges.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607541</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet you fail to recognise the fact that &lt;em&gt;parents, grandparents, and other relatives&lt;/em&gt; with degrees and that their learning influenced you was a privilege in itself. Try growing up with a family of drug addicts, no food on your shelves, in a violent ghetto, with only a very under resourced public school for education (to provide &lt;em&gt;one&lt;/eM&gt; simple, but realistic example); still think you&#039;d have the equivalent literacy today?

Nobody is arguing that you didn&#039;t work hard. Nobody is arguing that there aren&#039;t people that have worked exceedingly hard to overcome real difficulties. However denying that you had a privileged start compared to many, just makes you come across as both arrogant and ignorant of the difficulties many people face.

Even people that have overcome sub-optimal learning conditions will have had some advantages along the way; a steady supply of food, a teacher or other person that took pity and decided to help out, no threat of violence, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet you fail to recognise the fact that <em>parents, grandparents, and other relatives</em> with degrees and that their learning influenced you was a privilege in itself. Try growing up with a family of drug addicts, no food on your shelves, in a violent ghetto, with only a very under resourced public school for education (to provide <em>one</em> simple, but realistic example); still think you&#8217;d have the equivalent literacy today?</p>
<p>Nobody is arguing that you didn&#8217;t work hard. Nobody is arguing that there aren&#8217;t people that have worked exceedingly hard to overcome real difficulties. However denying that you had a privileged start compared to many, just makes you come across as both arrogant and ignorant of the difficulties many people face.</p>
<p>Even people that have overcome sub-optimal learning conditions will have had some advantages along the way; a steady supply of food, a teacher or other person that took pity and decided to help out, no threat of violence, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607531</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Its a logical fallacy, to take one example and generalize. It would be better served to state that some people are brilliant and manage to overcome adversity. but the world is not filled with exceptional people. the world by definition is filled with average people who on average do not overcome bad situations.

Yes, there are exceptional people. They are the exception, not the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Its a logical fallacy, to take one example and generalize. It would be better served to state that some people are brilliant and manage to overcome adversity. but the world is not filled with exceptional people. the world by definition is filled with average people who on average do not overcome bad situations.</p>
<p>Yes, there are exceptional people. They are the exception, not the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what? If you&#039;d been born in a less fortunate family your dyslexia, vision and hearing problems may not have even been diagnosed at a young age, much less addressed.

I&#039;m going to judge the hell out of you, because you don&#039;t seem to have enough self-awareness to avoid judging people who are less privileged than yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what? If you&#8217;d been born in a less fortunate family your dyslexia, vision and hearing problems may not have even been diagnosed at a young age, much less addressed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to judge the hell out of you, because you don&#8217;t seem to have enough self-awareness to avoid judging people who are less privileged than yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Barajas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if you don&#039;t have good nutrition, you can&#039;t take the same advantage of the education you get.

And that&#039;s just one argument. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you don&#8217;t have good nutrition, you can&#8217;t take the same advantage of the education you get.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just one argument. </p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I understood the value of an education because I saw what advanced degrees did for my parents, grandparents, and other relatives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;In other words, you were fortunate enough to grow up in a family that provided a positive learning environment that valued education. Well good for you.

Now kindly stop pretending you&#039;d be just as well off if you&#039;d been born to drug addicts on skid row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I understood the value of an education because I saw what advanced degrees did for my parents, grandparents, and other relatives.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, you were fortunate enough to grow up in a family that provided a positive learning environment that valued education. Well good for you.</p>
<p>Now kindly stop pretending you&#8217;d be just as well off if you&#8217;d been born to drug addicts on skid row.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Frank Lloyd Wright?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Now I know you&#039;re just fucking with me. Wright was the son of &lt;em&gt;a lawyer and a teacher&lt;/em&gt;, and you&#039;re holding him up as an example of someone who made it completely on his own without any social or educational advantages whatsoever?

My point is not that highly successful people don&#039;t work hard, it&#039;s that being &lt;em&gt;unsuccessful&lt;/em&gt;, or even illiterate, is not an indication that the subject in question is either lazy or entirely the master of their own fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Frank Lloyd Wright?</p></blockquote>
<p>Now I know you&#8217;re just fucking with me. Wright was the son of <em>a lawyer and a teacher</em>, and you&#8217;re holding him up as an example of someone who made it completely on his own without any social or educational advantages whatsoever?</p>
<p>My point is not that highly successful people don&#8217;t work hard, it&#8217;s that being <em>unsuccessful</em>, or even illiterate, is not an indication that the subject in question is either lazy or entirely the master of their own fate.</p>
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		<title>By: HulloHulot</title>
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		<dc:creator>HulloHulot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I&#039;ll oblige:

Scots is a perfect example of a language which has pretty much been killed by the deliberate use of English as a bellwether of status.

Props go to the same upper-middle classes, those that loved the Act of Union, for ensuring that all our compulsory education was in Queen&#039;s English and that &#039;yi&#039;d be battered and call&#039;t a teuchter fir spikin&#039; in a sleekit halftongue nir any tutor&#039; and for timing the introduction of that change with the highland clearances, which swept up and discarded demographics, families too, with callous abandon.

As late as the nineties, attempts to recognise Gaelic or Scots were quashed since, &#039;the Scottish Office has generally contended that this is unnecessary as there has never been specific legal discrimination against the languages like there has been against Welsh in the 1536 Act of Incorporation.&#039;

There has been progress since then, but many of us, like practically everyone north of Watford, codeswitch depending on the people we&#039;re talking to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I&#8217;ll oblige:</p>
<p>Scots is a perfect example of a language which has pretty much been killed by the deliberate use of English as a bellwether of status.</p>
<p>Props go to the same upper-middle classes, those that loved the Act of Union, for ensuring that all our compulsory education was in Queen&#8217;s English and that &#8216;yi&#8217;d be battered and call&#8217;t a teuchter fir spikin&#8217; in a sleekit halftongue nir any tutor&#8217; and for timing the introduction of that change with the highland clearances, which swept up and discarded demographics, families too, with callous abandon.</p>
<p>As late as the nineties, attempts to recognise Gaelic or Scots were quashed since, &#8216;the Scottish Office has generally contended that this is unnecessary as there has never been specific legal discrimination against the languages like there has been against Welsh in the 1536 Act of Incorporation.&#8217;</p>
<p>There has been progress since then, but many of us, like practically everyone north of Watford, codeswitch depending on the people we&#8217;re talking to.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The internet is full of anonymous little Horatio Algers and self made wealthy small business men. If only you were all real we&#039;d be the most dynamic country on Earth........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The internet is full of anonymous little Horatio Algers and self made wealthy small business men. If only you were all real we&#8217;d be the most dynamic country on Earth&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glasses wow.....  me too....

Did you go to school hungry? Get beaten or sexually abused at home? Did you fear being shot or beaten while walking to school? Have to do homework in an unheated apartment designed for 4 people but housing 12?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glasses wow&#8230;..  me too&#8230;.</p>
<p>Did you go to school hungry? Get beaten or sexually abused at home? Did you fear being shot or beaten while walking to school? Have to do homework in an unheated apartment designed for 4 people but housing 12?</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Excellent&quot; 
Actually ridiculous and obnoxious. It&#039;s the &quot;Oprah&quot; school of fallacy. There are a million factors that children have no control of in terms of their education, from going to school hungry, stressed and dealing with violence at home to being scared that they&#039;ll be shot or beaten on the way.  

I didn&#039;t have these troubles and I&#039;m &#039;educated&#039; enough to realize it and know that others do. Maybe you guys haven&#039;t bettered yourselves as much as you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Excellent&#8221;<br />
Actually ridiculous and obnoxious. It&#8217;s the &#8220;Oprah&#8221; school of fallacy. There are a million factors that children have no control of in terms of their education, from going to school hungry, stressed and dealing with violence at home to being scared that they&#8217;ll be shot or beaten on the way.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have these troubles and I&#8217;m &#8216;educated&#8217; enough to realize it and know that others do. Maybe you guys haven&#8217;t bettered yourselves as much as you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did (and do) have elements of dyslexia and I worked through them. I needed glasses to see the blackboard and I wear hearing aids today. Don&#039;t judge me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did (and do) have elements of dyslexia and I worked through them. I needed glasses to see the blackboard and I wear hearing aids today. Don&#8217;t judge me.</p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree. &lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt; understood the value of an education because I saw what advanced degrees did for my parents, grandparents, and other relatives. Thank you for the out with an adult conquering illiteracy (excellent film &lt;i&gt;Stanley &amp; Iris&lt;/i&gt;). 

Trust me I worked hard in school. I went beyond what was required, I read my older sister&#039;s text books, I went to the library and read random subjects, and I still do today.

You fail to give credit where is it due. Some people (myself included) worked hard to get where we are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree. <b>I</b> understood the value of an education because I saw what advanced degrees did for my parents, grandparents, and other relatives. Thank you for the out with an adult conquering illiteracy (excellent film <i>Stanley &amp; Iris</i>). </p>
<p>Trust me I worked hard in school. I went beyond what was required, I read my older sister&#8217;s text books, I went to the library and read random subjects, and I still do today.</p>
<p>You fail to give credit where is it due. Some people (myself included) worked hard to get where we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is harder for many and I was &quot;better&quot; suited to learn, but as show above in donovan acree&#039;s comment, there are those who are not stopped by a sub-ideal education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is harder for many and I was &#8220;better&#8221; suited to learn, but as show above in donovan acree&#8217;s comment, there are those who are not stopped by a sub-ideal education.</p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607382</link>
		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy Krause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at what Hamlet sez about the commission, its content:&lt;blockquote&gt;an exact command,—

Larded with many several sorts of reasons,
Importing Denmark&#039;s health, and England&#039;s too,
With, ho! such bugs and goblins in my life,—
That, on the supervise, no leisure bated,
No, not to stay the grinding of the axe,
My head should be struck off.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not just a text from Claudius to Engliand, &quot;Sup bro, kill 2 dumbfucks 4 me kthanxbai&quot;: Hamlet&#039;s forced to ape Claudius&#039;s orotund message and its stylistic prolixity--including all the toasts to the king&#039;s health--in order that the message seem convincingly Claudius&#039;s. He&#039;s not just talking about imitating the scribe&#039;s pretty handwriting: he&#039;s talking about composing, on the spot, a suitably kingly message to another royal.
I get your point about yeoman not writing well, but that&#039;s my point too: Hamlet thinks folks who write well and write pretty are so many serfs. He has a general disdain for language, too, as do so many who use it well: cf. his &quot;unpack my heart with words,&quot; where this time his referent is a prostitute, i.e., those who speak volubly and at length are hos. Man, talk about literacy privilege issues! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at what Hamlet sez about the commission, its content:<br />
<blockquote>an exact command,—</p>
<p>Larded with many several sorts of reasons,<br />
Importing Denmark&#8217;s health, and England&#8217;s too,<br />
With, ho! such bugs and goblins in my life,—<br />
That, on the supervise, no leisure bated,<br />
No, not to stay the grinding of the axe,<br />
My head should be struck off.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not just a text from Claudius to Engliand, &#8220;Sup bro, kill 2 dumbfucks 4 me kthanxbai&#8221;: Hamlet&#8217;s forced to ape Claudius&#8217;s orotund message and its stylistic prolixity&#8211;including all the toasts to the king&#8217;s health&#8211;in order that the message seem convincingly Claudius&#8217;s. He&#8217;s not just talking about imitating the scribe&#8217;s pretty handwriting: he&#8217;s talking about composing, on the spot, a suitably kingly message to another royal.<br />
I get your point about yeoman not writing well, but that&#8217;s my point too: Hamlet thinks folks who write well and write pretty are so many serfs. He has a general disdain for language, too, as do so many who use it well: cf. his &#8220;unpack my heart with words,&#8221; where this time his referent is a prostitute, i.e., those who speak volubly and at length are hos. Man, talk about literacy privilege issues! </p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Krause</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607314</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, literacy rates were not higher then. Oy.

http://nces.ed.gov/naal/lit_history.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, literacy rates were not higher then. Oy.</p>
<p><a href="http://nces.ed.gov/naal/lit_history.asp" rel="nofollow">http://nces.ed.gov/naal/lit_history.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: DreamboatSkanky</title>
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		<dc:creator>DreamboatSkanky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kTVZiJ3Uc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kTVZiJ3Uc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kTVZiJ3Uc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607254</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the term Grammar Vigilante (in the Spanish sense of the term). Standing watch over the internet like a sentry; protecting its users; maintaining order and defending it against the hordes of grammatical vandals who would tear it apart with their errors.

You&#039;re welcome, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the term Grammar Vigilante (in the Spanish sense of the term). Standing watch over the internet like a sentry; protecting its users; maintaining order and defending it against the hordes of grammatical vandals who would tear it apart with their errors.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607240</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.. There are no autodidacts? What about Srinivasa Ramanujan? Frank Lloyd Wright? John Clare? Keith Moon? James Watt? Frederick Douglass?


Focusing on the familiar, here in the US we have public libraries, free literacy programs, and public internet access. Unless you have a learning disability, there is nothing to prevent you from educating yourself and mastering your native tongue. 

Blaming the world or your place in it for a lack of effort on your part is laughable. You don&#039;t wait for family or community to provide you with a supportive learning environment. To wit, I submit Booker T Washington. Born into slavery, he worked in the salt furnaces and mines until he had saved enough wages to pay his own way to the Hampton Institute were he continued to work to pay for his education. He then parlayed his hard work and dedication towards his own education which eventually lead to a career in education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.. There are no autodidacts? What about Srinivasa Ramanujan? Frank Lloyd Wright? John Clare? Keith Moon? James Watt? Frederick Douglass?</p>
<p>Focusing on the familiar, here in the US we have public libraries, free literacy programs, and public internet access. Unless you have a learning disability, there is nothing to prevent you from educating yourself and mastering your native tongue. </p>
<p>Blaming the world or your place in it for a lack of effort on your part is laughable. You don&#8217;t wait for family or community to provide you with a supportive learning environment. To wit, I submit Booker T Washington. Born into slavery, he worked in the salt furnaces and mines until he had saved enough wages to pay his own way to the Hampton Institute were he continued to work to pay for his education. He then parlayed his hard work and dedication towards his own education which eventually lead to a career in education.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Or using text-speak on papers or exams. I did get to write &quot;WTF? I SPEAK ENGLISH, NOT BINGO&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Or using text-speak on papers or exams. I did get to write &#8220;WTF? I SPEAK ENGLISH, NOT BINGO&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> A keyboard? How quaint.</description>
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		<title>By: Douglas Stuart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/13/literacy-privilege-or-why-gr.html#comment-1607226</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> As long as his agreement is better than donnie&#039;s he&#039;s ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> As long as his agreement is better than donnie&#8217;s he&#8217;s ok.</p>
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