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	<title>Comments on: Elementary school shooting in CT leaves at least 27 dead, including 18&#160;children</title>
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		<title>By: beeandcat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607920</link>
		<dc:creator>beeandcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that the solution to the problem were as simple as you suggest, but examination of the data doesn&#039;t show any kind of consistent pattern. If you sort by the &quot;average firearms per 100 people&quot; column, gun ownership rates and homicide by firearms rates don&#039;t seem to have any sort of direct correlation, once you get past the few top countries.

Norway and France have some of the higher rates of gun ownership, but some of the lowest rates of gun violence. Then you get Luxembourg, Belgium, and Italy, who have gun homicide rates that are more than double that of Finland, while having 2/3 fewer guns per capita. 

I&#039;m not trying to be difficult. I&#039;m trying to look at the data available and see if there is a clear pattern to the rates, and I don&#039;t see one. Maybe if someone made a chart with a best fit line, it&#039;d be more obvious... but just spending 20 minutes looking at the data doesn&#039;t lead me to draw any conclusions like that. 

I&#039;m all for regulation. I&#039;ve stated several times that I think we should have all kinds of registration and background checks and mental health screenings, but pure &quot;number of guns easily available&quot; may not be the main problem, and assuming that it is the main problem may make it difficult for us to locate the real cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that the solution to the problem were as simple as you suggest, but examination of the data doesn&#8217;t show any kind of consistent pattern. If you sort by the &#8220;average firearms per 100 people&#8221; column, gun ownership rates and homicide by firearms rates don&#8217;t seem to have any sort of direct correlation, once you get past the few top countries.</p>
<p>Norway and France have some of the higher rates of gun ownership, but some of the lowest rates of gun violence. Then you get Luxembourg, Belgium, and Italy, who have gun homicide rates that are more than double that of Finland, while having 2/3 fewer guns per capita. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be difficult. I&#8217;m trying to look at the data available and see if there is a clear pattern to the rates, and I don&#8217;t see one. Maybe if someone made a chart with a best fit line, it&#8217;d be more obvious&#8230; but just spending 20 minutes looking at the data doesn&#8217;t lead me to draw any conclusions like that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for regulation. I&#8217;ve stated several times that I think we should have all kinds of registration and background checks and mental health screenings, but pure &#8220;number of guns easily available&#8221; may not be the main problem, and assuming that it is the main problem may make it difficult for us to locate the real cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607911</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which unfortunately is not something you can legislate against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which unfortunately is not something you can legislate against.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are not the unemployed ones.

Undone.

edit- if you replace rather than edit, you should say so. My answer still stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are not the unemployed ones.</p>
<p>Undone.</p>
<p>edit- if you replace rather than edit, you should say so. My answer still stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607903</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Did you think someone did not know about Columbine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Did you think someone did not know about Columbine?</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore Logan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607904</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hire ones that don&#039;t have that.  Or are you inferring that every retired soldier has PTSD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hire ones that don&#8217;t have that.  Or are you inferring that every retired soldier has PTSD?</p>
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		<title>By: gandalf23</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607902</link>
		<dc:creator>gandalf23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need to start a campaign.  Call it &quot;First, not Last&quot; and encourage homicidal fcks like this to off themselves first, not last after killing other people.  In order to assure they still get all the post mortem celebritizing they desire, we&#039;ll encourage them to write out their sick little death fantasies, and then make sure to publicly praise their &quot;bravery&quot; and &quot;spirit&quot; for offing themselves before their inner monster was unleashed and they killed others.  We can even have scoreboards so that some guy that wants to walk into a hardware store with an axe and kill people will rank lower than someone who trows grenades in a shopping mall.  It&#039;ll kinda of be like Fantasy Football, except not.  I figure if it encourages one of them to not kill others, it&#039;ll be worth it.  Plus it&#039;ll give the media all kinds of gory details to obsess over and they can make neat charts and graphs and whatnots.  win win.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to start a campaign.  Call it &#8220;First, not Last&#8221; and encourage homicidal fcks like this to off themselves first, not last after killing other people.  In order to assure they still get all the post mortem celebritizing they desire, we&#8217;ll encourage them to write out their sick little death fantasies, and then make sure to publicly praise their &#8220;bravery&#8221; and &#8220;spirit&#8221; for offing themselves before their inner monster was unleashed and they killed others.  We can even have scoreboards so that some guy that wants to walk into a hardware store with an axe and kill people will rank lower than someone who trows grenades in a shopping mall.  It&#8217;ll kinda of be like Fantasy Football, except not.  I figure if it encourages one of them to not kill others, it&#8217;ll be worth it.  Plus it&#8217;ll give the media all kinds of gory details to obsess over and they can make neat charts and graphs and whatnots.  win win.  </p>
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		<title>By: jsd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mall shootings. School shootings. Parking lot shootings. And on and on and on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mall shootings. School shootings. Parking lot shootings. And on and on and on. </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The universal health care argument is correct. 

Combine it with an anonymous buy-back program of merit and a difference would be had. Buy-back programs work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The universal health care argument is correct. </p>
<p>Combine it with an anonymous buy-back program of merit and a difference would be had. Buy-back programs work.</p>
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		<title>By: jsd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607893</link>
		<dc:creator>jsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold shot and killed 13 people at Columbine High School in April 1999. They wounded 21 others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold shot and killed 13 people at Columbine High School in April 1999. They wounded 21 others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607890</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion at this time must come from the people. It would be counter-productive to any measure to control guns for Obama to address it, for several weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion at this time must come from the people. It would be counter-productive to any measure to control guns for Obama to address it, for several weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607884</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got odds on favourites that the shooter with 4 weapons and a vest was attracted to and acquired something far more akin to what is in the twitter post than the hunting rifles you and others offer in it&#039;s place. 

That&#039;s a bet you know you&#039;ll lose, and BTW, if they are all the same it isn&#039;t fear mongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got odds on favourites that the shooter with 4 weapons and a vest was attracted to and acquired something far more akin to what is in the twitter post than the hunting rifles you and others offer in it&#8217;s place. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bet you know you&#8217;ll lose, and BTW, if they are all the same it isn&#8217;t fear mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: jsd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seung-Hui Choshot and killed 32 people at the Virginia Tech Campus in April 2007. He wounded 23 others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seung-Hui Choshot and killed 32 people at the Virginia Tech Campus in April 2007. He wounded 23 others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre</p>
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		<title>By: jsd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607883</link>
		<dc:creator>jsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared Loughner shot and killed 6 at a &quot;Meet Your Congressperson&quot; event in Tucson, Arizona in January 2011. He injured 13 others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared Loughner shot and killed 6 at a &#8220;Meet Your Congressperson&#8221; event in Tucson, Arizona in January 2011. He injured 13 others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Dave but I am not sure what you mean when you say &quot;that&#039;s the point.&quot; All guns are dangerous and scary and so they should be banned? Sensible gun laws are important. But sensible doesn&#039;t mean banning them. Banning them doesn&#039;t keep them out of the hands of the &quot;bad guys&quot;. Sensible laws *may* make it harder for madmen like this guy to get hold of such weapons. I say &quot;may&quot; because there&#039;s no effective &quot;psycho test&quot; for gun ownership and I am assuming this guy is not connected to some group that would make access easy(ier) (militias, criminal organizations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Dave but I am not sure what you mean when you say &#8220;that&#8217;s the point.&#8221; All guns are dangerous and scary and so they should be banned? Sensible gun laws are important. But sensible doesn&#8217;t mean banning them. Banning them doesn&#8217;t keep them out of the hands of the &#8220;bad guys&#8221;. Sensible laws *may* make it harder for madmen like this guy to get hold of such weapons. I say &#8220;may&#8221; because there&#8217;s no effective &#8220;psycho test&#8221; for gun ownership and I am assuming this guy is not connected to some group that would make access easy(ier) (militias, criminal organizations).</p>
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		<title>By: jsd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607880</link>
		<dc:creator>jsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Eagan Holmes shot and killed 12 people at a screening of the Dark Knight Rises. He injured 58 others. This was in July 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Eagan Holmes shot and killed 12 people at a screening of the Dark Knight Rises. He injured 58 others. This was in July 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607873</link>
		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these guys are usually fully legal, law abiding &quot;Joe Citizens&quot; until the day they snap and go on their rampage. They are Joe Citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these guys are usually fully legal, law abiding &#8220;Joe Citizens&#8221; until the day they snap and go on their rampage. They are Joe Citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607875</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hire 2-3 retired soldiers (who are very possibly unemployed right now anyway) as security in every school.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Schools? You mean those places that can barely pay a living wage for the teachers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hire 2-3 retired soldiers (who are very possibly unemployed right now anyway) as security in every school.</p></blockquote>
<p>Schools? You mean those places that can barely pay a living wage for the teachers?</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTSD.

Undone.

No need to thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTSD.</p>
<p>Undone.</p>
<p>No need to thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-in.html#comment-1607867</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Factional and sectarian violence in other parts of the world, a stable society only has the nutcases (and not much use for firearms beyond hunting &amp; target shooting)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factional and sectarian violence in other parts of the world, a stable society only has the nutcases (and not much use for firearms beyond hunting &amp; target shooting)</p>
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		<title>By: A Viescas</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Viescas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Seven shootings, zero cars. At least in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Seven shootings, zero cars. At least in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is that &quot;ZOMG SCARY GUN HOW IZ LEGAL???&quot; is mindless fearmongering.  .223 is just cartridge.  Just because the gunman was using that caliber doesn&#039;t mean he was using a big scary gun.

Furthermore, just because a gun looks scary doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s more (or less) dangerous than any other gun.  The assault weapon ban that pretty much everybody will be clamoring for again did not make anybody safer.  Most of the features it banned were purely cosmetic, or at least did not increase leathality.  It&#039;s security theater, and we shouldn&#039;t encourage that sort of bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that &#8220;ZOMG SCARY GUN HOW IZ LEGAL???&#8221; is mindless fearmongering.  .223 is just cartridge.  Just because the gunman was using that caliber doesn&#8217;t mean he was using a big scary gun.</p>
<p>Furthermore, just because a gun looks scary doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s more (or less) dangerous than any other gun.  The assault weapon ban that pretty much everybody will be clamoring for again did not make anybody safer.  Most of the features it banned were purely cosmetic, or at least did not increase leathality.  It&#8217;s security theater, and we shouldn&#8217;t encourage that sort of bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Or that rights only belonged to the white, male, landed gentry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Or that rights only belonged to the white, male, landed gentry.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The steps necessary to absolutely protect your family from the weapon in the home make the weapon par useless for defense. 

I have a knife in my pocket, folding though, just a tool. But in my home if I had a fixed blade weapon and you had a rifle you&#039;d be dead. If you had a handgun but were within 3-4 feet of me the outcome is the same. 

In close quarters the best defense is being willing tear someone apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The steps necessary to absolutely protect your family from the weapon in the home make the weapon par useless for defense. </p>
<p>I have a knife in my pocket, folding though, just a tool. But in my home if I had a fixed blade weapon and you had a rifle you&#8217;d be dead. If you had a handgun but were within 3-4 feet of me the outcome is the same. </p>
<p>In close quarters the best defense is being willing tear someone apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@twitter-14386662:disqus ,

It doesn&#039;t hold water? Countries with easier access to weapons have less gun violence?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Can you please point out where I said anything about &quot;banning&quot; guns?  

Why do you suggest that there&#039;s no alternative between ridiculously easy access to assault weapons and banning guns outright?

I am not a gun owner now, but I have been, and do shoot with friends. I don&#039;t think you should be able to buy assault weapons at the mall on a whim though like Laugner did.  Do you see the difference?</description>
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<p>It doesn&#8217;t hold water? Countries with easier access to weapons have less gun violence?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list</a></p>
<p>Can you please point out where I said anything about &#8220;banning&#8221; guns?  </p>
<p>Why do you suggest that there&#8217;s no alternative between ridiculously easy access to assault weapons and banning guns outright?</p>
<p>I am not a gun owner now, but I have been, and do shoot with friends. I don&#8217;t think you should be able to buy assault weapons at the mall on a whim though like Laugner did.  Do you see the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lloyd</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What gun isn&#039;t scarey? It is designed to kill and I never feel safe in their presence. That&#039;s the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gun isn&#8217;t scarey? It is designed to kill and I never feel safe in their presence. That&#8217;s the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That&#039;s kind of faulty logic, though I&#039;ve read that statistic a million times. Obviously without a gun in your home, you can&#039;t suffer a gun related incident, so it&#039;s a chicken and egg thing.

Also, a lot of people don&#039;t take precautions, like having a trigger lock or using a gun safe.</description>
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<p>Also, a lot of people don&#8217;t take precautions, like having a trigger lock or using a gun safe.</p>
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		<title>By: dbergen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then, no issue, move along. Thanks for that.</description>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because mindless fearmongering is a bigger threat than big, black, scary-looking guns.</description>
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		<title>By: dbergen</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it IS exactly the time.</description>
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		<title>By: peregrinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>peregrinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the fuck fuck fuck?!  Just read that - JFC get the guns under control!! </description>
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