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	<title>Comments on: Loud Bicycle: Car horn for your&#160;bike</title>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1611711</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Peterson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1611125</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian Wood honked at a pedestrian who was breaking the law, he also successfully avoided hitting him.  Had made no effort to avoid the pedestrian he would have been clearly negligent.  But he was clearly in the right to use a horn to warn the pedestrian, who was endangering both of them by breaking the law.  By alerting the pedestrian to his presence, he also increased the safety for BOTH of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Wood honked at a pedestrian who was breaking the law, he also successfully avoided hitting him.  Had made no effort to avoid the pedestrian he would have been clearly negligent.  But he was clearly in the right to use a horn to warn the pedestrian, who was endangering both of them by breaking the law.  By alerting the pedestrian to his presence, he also increased the safety for BOTH of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lansey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1610563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lansey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed you were ahead of your time. Kudos to you though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed you were ahead of your time. Kudos to you though!</p>
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		<title>By: a1penguin</title>
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		<dc:creator>a1penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess I was a little ahead of my time.  Back in 1979, I mounted a VW bug horn and a 6V lantern battery to my bicycle.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I was a little ahead of my time.  Back in 1979, I mounted a VW bug horn and a 6V lantern battery to my bicycle.   </p>
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		<title>By: treacle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1610407</link>
		<dc:creator>treacle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There already IS ONE.  And it&#039;s air-powered, so you can refill it with your bicycle pump.

http://deltacycle.com/Airzound-Bike-Horn

They are great.  115db.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There already IS ONE.  And it&#8217;s air-powered, so you can refill it with your bicycle pump.</p>
<p><a href="http://deltacycle.com/Airzound-Bike-Horn" rel="nofollow">http://deltacycle.com/Airzound-Bike-Horn</a></p>
<p>They are great.  115db.  </p>
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		<title>By: HammerheadFistpunch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1610076</link>
		<dc:creator>HammerheadFistpunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bike&#039;s horn is broken, so I use this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=WqOr60En_kg#t=42s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bike&#8217;s horn is broken, so I use this. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=WqOr60En_kg#t=42s" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=WqOr60En_kg#t=42s</a></p>
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		<title>By: kartwaffles</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1609783</link>
		<dc:creator>kartwaffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> It&#039;s also a complete boat anchor compared to an AirZounds. But for people who value form over function, a couple extra ounces doesn&#039;t matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> It&#8217;s also a complete boat anchor compared to an AirZounds. But for people who value form over function, a couple extra ounces doesn&#8217;t matter</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/15/loud-bicycle-car-horn-for-you.html#comment-1609643</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were known that a large proportion of cyclists carried firearms your doubts would be removed. 

They would be attacked regularly for/and robbed of their weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were known that a large proportion of cyclists carried firearms your doubts would be removed. </p>
<p>They would be attacked regularly for/and robbed of their weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always possible to get off the road be it gently or otherwise.

The situation you describe most often presents itself to your back. I doubt you have the wherewithal to predetermine the attack vector of a vehicle approaching from the rear quickly and accurately enough to deploy and fire a weapon effectively.

Where it is otherwise, if you are still on the road while fully aware you are in combat then you are effectively seeking it. 

The situation you describe is ludicrously uncommon even in Texas, except where someone believes being passed closely or honked at would give them cause to brandish a weapon i.e. to escalate. Seeking it. 

The cowboys you describe are more likely to take you up on the engagement if you brandish. After all, if they kill you then they are innocent, you threatened them and they did what they had to. Same story you would give. You&#039;d both be wrong.

Ludicrously uncommon. You are trying to dodge the raindrops to avoid using an umbrella. In order to justify the weapon you favour and pretend to need.

I&#039;m a Texan born and bred and a career cyclist. The people on the backroads who might, uncommonly, seem to you aggressive would simply drive away if you slowed enough to put up a hand without a finger upraised. You are seeking otherwise.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always possible to get off the road be it gently or otherwise.</p>
<p>The situation you describe most often presents itself to your back. I doubt you have the wherewithal to predetermine the attack vector of a vehicle approaching from the rear quickly and accurately enough to deploy and fire a weapon effectively.</p>
<p>Where it is otherwise, if you are still on the road while fully aware you are in combat then you are effectively seeking it. </p>
<p>The situation you describe is ludicrously uncommon even in Texas, except where someone believes being passed closely or honked at would give them cause to brandish a weapon i.e. to escalate. Seeking it. </p>
<p>The cowboys you describe are more likely to take you up on the engagement if you brandish. After all, if they kill you then they are innocent, you threatened them and they did what they had to. Same story you would give. You&#8217;d both be wrong.</p>
<p>Ludicrously uncommon. You are trying to dodge the raindrops to avoid using an umbrella. In order to justify the weapon you favour and pretend to need.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Texan born and bred and a career cyclist. The people on the backroads who might, uncommonly, seem to you aggressive would simply drive away if you slowed enough to put up a hand without a finger upraised. You are seeking otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right of way is not a right and most sets of codified traffic laws maintain that a pedestrian where they are not supposed to be must still be observed and avoided, even if it means (shudder) braking.

I&#039;m not defending careless behaviour I&#039;m just writing against the oft-perceived notion that someone with right-of-way is not legally bound to give it up to avoid harm to another. They are.

A motorists/cyclists decision to proceed with just a warning when the option to stop or slow would have reduced harm can be justifiably found negligent. Likewise a pedestrian that is oblivious is partly responsible for their own harm when they err or choose to err.

Safe road behaviour has little to do with right, rights or wrongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right of way is not a right and most sets of codified traffic laws maintain that a pedestrian where they are not supposed to be must still be observed and avoided, even if it means (shudder) braking.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending careless behaviour I&#8217;m just writing against the oft-perceived notion that someone with right-of-way is not legally bound to give it up to avoid harm to another. They are.</p>
<p>A motorists/cyclists decision to proceed with just a warning when the option to stop or slow would have reduced harm can be justifiably found negligent. Likewise a pedestrian that is oblivious is partly responsible for their own harm when they err or choose to err.</p>
<p>Safe road behaviour has little to do with right, rights or wrongs.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look up right hook, and no. Passengers on an airplane may die when it crashes, but that does not necessarily mean the pilot did something illegal. You follow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look up right hook, and no. Passengers on an airplane may die when it crashes, but that does not necessarily mean the pilot did something illegal. You follow?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &quot;jaywalking&quot; - no right of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8221;jaywalking&#8221; &#8211; no right of way.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wehmeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wehmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in NYC, the people with loud horns on their bikes seem to share a personality issue that causes the horns to be used against other cyclists and pedestrians -- usually for no good reason at all. So it&#039;s just like having two-wheel taxis behind you.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in NYC, the people with loud horns on their bikes seem to share a personality issue that causes the horns to be used against other cyclists and pedestrians &#8212; usually for no good reason at all. So it&#8217;s just like having two-wheel taxis behind you.  </p>
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		<title>By: lorq</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d worry that a car driver, hearing the car horn sound, would become confused and instinctively take evasive action in relation to an unseen *car*, which could cause it to collide with the bike.  (E.g. swerving out of a car lane and right into the biking lane, or some similar scenario.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d worry that a car driver, hearing the car horn sound, would become confused and instinctively take evasive action in relation to an unseen *car*, which could cause it to collide with the bike.  (E.g. swerving out of a car lane and right into the biking lane, or some similar scenario.)</p>
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		<title>By: traalfaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>traalfaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had several horns on my bike including car horns.  This is not a legitimate issue. I&#039;ve never felt that my hearing was even close to being damaged from a horn, and I have fairly good hearing.  Getting passed by motorcycles with straight pipes, I have honestly thought that there was a chance that I was having permanent damage done to my ears, it actually feels like someone was jabbing nails into my eardrums sometimes.  But not from horns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had several horns on my bike including car horns.  This is not a legitimate issue. I&#8217;ve never felt that my hearing was even close to being damaged from a horn, and I have fairly good hearing.  Getting passed by motorcycles with straight pipes, I have honestly thought that there was a chance that I was having permanent damage done to my ears, it actually feels like someone was jabbing nails into my eardrums sometimes.  But not from horns.</p>
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		<title>By: traalfaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>traalfaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a car horn on my bike for about a year now.  Before that I had an AirZound.  The AirZound is actually louder but it&#039;s somewhat fragile and doesn&#039;t work in low temperatures and only seems to work about a year before dying.

The car horn cost about $45 to build.  All you need is a car horn, a relay and a button from the auto parts store plus a 12V gel cell from eBay.  I guess add another $8 if you don&#039;t already have a battery charger.  I used a shelf bracket to attach my horn to the rear rack.

Honestly when you are on a bike and get into a situaion where you want a horn, nothing short of the horn from The Mask (the one that shatters windshields and causes property damage) seems adequate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a car horn on my bike for about a year now.  Before that I had an AirZound.  The AirZound is actually louder but it&#8217;s somewhat fragile and doesn&#8217;t work in low temperatures and only seems to work about a year before dying.</p>
<p>The car horn cost about $45 to build.  All you need is a car horn, a relay and a button from the auto parts store plus a 12V gel cell from eBay.  I guess add another $8 if you don&#8217;t already have a battery charger.  I used a shelf bracket to attach my horn to the rear rack.</p>
<p>Honestly when you are on a bike and get into a situaion where you want a horn, nothing short of the horn from The Mask (the one that shatters windshields and causes property damage) seems adequate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have these in Boston.  I actually saw someone use it today.  A dude was crossing the street and a car tried to plow through him when making a right on red.  The man bellowed at the top of his lungs, drowned out all other car noises, &quot;Fuck you asshole!&quot; (phonetically, it sounded more like &quot;Fahk you asshooole.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have these in Boston.  I actually saw someone use it today.  A dude was crossing the street and a car tried to plow through him when making a right on red.  The man bellowed at the top of his lungs, drowned out all other car noises, &#8220;Fuck you asshole!&#8221; (phonetically, it sounded more like &#8220;Fahk you asshooole.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Gulliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gulliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad choice of word. Obviously I&#039;m not going to play chicken when I&#039;m on a bike and they&#039;re in a car. I&#039;m not going to play chicken period, because I&#039;m not a pinhead. 

Unfortunately, if someone in a car or truck decides to &quot;play&quot; with me, I have very limited ability to outrun them on a bike and better hope there&#039;s somewhere I can go off road that they cannot (which is not always the case on the backroads of rural Texas). There&#039;s a massive power-imbalance between me on my bicycle and a motorist. And while I, humanist that I am, believe most people are basically decent enough not to hunt others for the &quot;sport&quot; of it, it&#039;s the occasional exceptions that I plan to be as prepared as possible against.

My other options are give up riding my bike for fun and cheap healthy transport, or let myself be a soft target, neither of which I have any intention of doing. If you think I&#039;m nuts or reckless for that, I can live with that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad choice of word. Obviously I&#8217;m not going to play chicken when I&#8217;m on a bike and they&#8217;re in a car. I&#8217;m not going to play chicken period, because I&#8217;m not a pinhead. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, if someone in a car or truck decides to &#8220;play&#8221; with me, I have very limited ability to outrun them on a bike and better hope there&#8217;s somewhere I can go off road that they cannot (which is not always the case on the backroads of rural Texas). There&#8217;s a massive power-imbalance between me on my bicycle and a motorist. And while I, humanist that I am, believe most people are basically decent enough not to hunt others for the &#8220;sport&#8221; of it, it&#8217;s the occasional exceptions that I plan to be as prepared as possible against.</p>
<p>My other options are give up riding my bike for fun and cheap healthy transport, or let myself be a soft target, neither of which I have any intention of doing. If you think I&#8217;m nuts or reckless for that, I can live with that :)</p>
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		<title>By: bolamig</title>
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		<dc:creator>bolamig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that a blood curdling &quot;Wooooah&quot; scream motivates people not to open their car doors into my bicycle.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that a blood curdling &#8220;Wooooah&#8221; scream motivates people not to open their car doors into my bicycle.   </p>
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		<title>By: Robo-Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo-Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems like its too close to the cyclist&#039;s head and would project too much sound right at his ears. Maybe use an extended horn that projects out in front, almost as far as the edge of the front tire, to protect the cyclist&#039;s hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems like its too close to the cyclist&#8217;s head and would project too much sound right at his ears. Maybe use an extended horn that projects out in front, almost as far as the edge of the front tire, to protect the cyclist&#8217;s hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cruickshank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cruickshank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the answer is a Fox-40 whistle. The nice thing is that you can control the volume, for a nice little &quot;I&#039;m here&quot; chirp, or a &quot;closethatcardoorrightf%$#ingNOW&quot; 120dB blast. and your hands can stay on the brakes, where they&#039;re needed. takes a while to get used to riding with it, and you look like &quot;one of those&quot; cyclists, but it&#039;s saved my bacon and that of countless jaywalking peds about a million times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the answer is a Fox-40 whistle. The nice thing is that you can control the volume, for a nice little &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; chirp, or a &#8220;closethatcardoorrightf%$#ingNOW&#8221; 120dB blast. and your hands can stay on the brakes, where they&#8217;re needed. takes a while to get used to riding with it, and you look like &#8220;one of those&#8221; cyclists, but it&#8217;s saved my bacon and that of countless jaywalking peds about a million times.</p>
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		<title>By: miasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>miasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps an audio loop of engine noise?
I know those bloody electric cars could use some.
Or maybe I&#039;ll try and just start looking. ;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps an audio loop of engine noise?<br />
I know those bloody electric cars could use some.<br />
Or maybe I&#8217;ll try and just start looking. ;3</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence L Lagarde III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence L Lagarde III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I love the AirZound. You can adjust the volume so it doesn&#039;t have to be obnoxious. As far as abusing the device, just mellow out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I love the AirZound. You can adjust the volume so it doesn&#8217;t have to be obnoxious. As far as abusing the device, just mellow out.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Holmén</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Holmén</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> When I was in Paris I was struck by the incessant horn-honking.  It was a continuous drone, day and night, it never, never stopped.  I wonder if anyone was warned about anything by a horn at that point.

But that was decades ago, perhaps the French driver has become quieter since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> When I was in Paris I was struck by the incessant horn-honking.  It was a continuous drone, day and night, it never, never stopped.  I wonder if anyone was warned about anything by a horn at that point.</p>
<p>But that was decades ago, perhaps the French driver has become quieter since then.</p>
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		<title>By: raines</title>
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		<dc:creator>raines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why stop at a horn sound? I had one of these in the 90s, and the siren function was occasionally handy:
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/11/news/a-bike-horn-that-wails-in-the-city-and-chimes-in-the-country.html

I also have a little handlebar-mounted box that makes a bike bell sound and says &quot;excuse me!&quot; in a pleasant voice. Saves your voice when passing folks in a big group ride or on a trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop at a horn sound? I had one of these in the 90s, and the siren function was occasionally handy:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/11/news/a-bike-horn-that-wails-in-the-city-and-chimes-in-the-country.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/11/news/a-bike-horn-that-wails-in-the-city-and-chimes-in-the-country.html</a></p>
<p>I also have a little handlebar-mounted box that makes a bike bell sound and says &#8220;excuse me!&#8221; in a pleasant voice. Saves your voice when passing folks in a big group ride or on a trail.</p>
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		<title>By: andygates</title>
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		<dc:creator>andygates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking &quot;awesome, I want one&quot; a decade ago, I got an Air Zound: an air horn for your bike.  Great bit of kit.  But I discovered that I didn&#039;t use it as I expected to: whenever things were *really* hairy, I didn&#039;t have time to parp.  Whenever things annoyed me, I parped.  The horn seemed to turn me into a bit of an asshole, so I got rid of it.

For most situations, BELLOWING at the people around works as well, tbh.  And it&#039;s faster to deploy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking &#8220;awesome, I want one&#8221; a decade ago, I got an Air Zound: an air horn for your bike.  Great bit of kit.  But I discovered that I didn&#8217;t use it as I expected to: whenever things were *really* hairy, I didn&#8217;t have time to parp.  Whenever things annoyed me, I parped.  The horn seemed to turn me into a bit of an asshole, so I got rid of it.</p>
<p>For most situations, BELLOWING at the people around works as well, tbh.  And it&#8217;s faster to deploy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tadas Jelinek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tadas Jelinek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have squeaky brakes (not on purpose) and live in London. Pedestrians constantly apologize when I stop to give them way even if it&#039;s no danger situation ;) ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have squeaky brakes (not on purpose) and live in London. Pedestrians constantly apologize when I stop to give them way even if it&#8217;s no danger situation ;) &#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right hooks kill many stationary or barely moving cyclists No squeaks. Better to have properly tuned equipment.</description>
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		<title>By: Wayne Bonnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Bonnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yelling is effective too, but not nearly as loud as my squeaky brake.  My squeaky brake definitely penetrates the glass and steel cage, and to a driver it sounds quite urgent (which it is).  So your yell does not trump my squeak... it merely complements.

And as for the right hook... I&#039;ve never met one where stopping was the wrong thing to do.I agree that my solution does not work in every imaginable scenario; but it is a fairly easy, gadgetless option that works remarkably well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yelling is effective too, but not nearly as loud as my squeaky brake.  My squeaky brake definitely penetrates the glass and steel cage, and to a driver it sounds quite urgent (which it is).  So your yell does not trump my squeak&#8230; it merely complements.</p>
<p>And as for the right hook&#8230; I&#8217;ve never met one where stopping was the wrong thing to do.I agree that my solution does not work in every imaginable scenario; but it is a fairly easy, gadgetless option that works remarkably well.</p>
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		<title>By: nixiebunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>nixiebunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already have a Loud Bike. It is much more pleasant to listen to than a Loud Bicycle. 

http://www.cathodecorner.com/loudbike/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already have a Loud Bike. It is much more pleasant to listen to than a Loud Bicycle. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cathodecorner.com/loudbike/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cathodecorner.com/loudbike/</a></p>
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