Comments on: David Frum's reefer madness

By: Steve Nordquist

Steve Nordquist — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:50:00 +0000

Smoking it just because it’s legal (and has a $1200/mo. midi grow permit, and there’s an herbal reek bounty; maybe compliance to do) is going to have a different profile too. Lots of people are not going to make the transition to either a vegan diet to keep their lungs low in neoteny or a vaporizer…brush, and will think 1/4 the brownies are furry and terrible for no reason. Maybe Frum can paint legal rainbows for a week and write back to Beast.

By: R_Young

R_Young — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:41:00 +0000

I should clarify that it redeems the Beast’s existance, not much of its other work.

Of course Drum and Tomasky are often pretty good to have around, if for no other reason than to get better perspectives than Fox News v MSNBC. Not always the most critical thinkers, but their columns do a lot of good in showing the difference between an author’s ideology and their views on a subject.

By: R_Young

R_Young — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:37:00 +0000

Andrew Sullivan’s blog is there currently, which redeems the Beast single-handedly, IMO.

Andrew Sullivan is the light among the darkness.

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:04:00 +0000

@boingboing-f4d471fc05d47ca7747a0152747892c0:disqus – making alcohol is trivially easy and quite safe – much easier than growing pot plants that actually produce potent bud, as I understand it (I’m a homebrewer, but not a homegrower). As a bonus it’s legal, so there’s not even a risk of raids.

One of the grocery store chains in my area carries cheap homebrew beer and wine kits. The product isn’t amazingly good, but it’s a lot better than crappy cheap beer from the liquor store, and costs much less too. They’re stupidly easy to use – open can, dump contents in food grade pail, add sugar, add water, add yeast, wait.

The hardest thing about the whole process is that it involves getting bottles very clean, which may be too much like washing the dishes for some teens to handle.

By: Brainspore

Brainspore — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:52:00 +0000

Heroine is the fuse,

Unless you're talking about Firebird, in which case the heroine is the flame.

By: anix

anix — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:35:00 +0000

That’s bad logic. It’s easy for young people to buy partially because it can be grown in your home. Making alcohol is a far more difficult, dangerous, and involved process. Having it be legal means a wider proliferation of home grows. The marijuana black market wouldn’t likely die entirely from legalization. It’d probably become even easier for underage people to get.

By: Marc Mielke

Marc Mielke — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:56:00 +0000

You just compelled me to do a quick wiki: how did such a wonderful woman and journalist have children who became (not quite ‘grew up to be’) conservatives?

By: Marc Mielke

Marc Mielke — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:49:00 +0000

Chris Hayes’ weekend show seems to find some very good guests from that site, so not everybody there is a total neocon hack like Frum. Michelle Goldberg, who I knew from her books before discovering her columns there, is quite good.

By: Frank Medvedik

Frank Medvedik — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:25:00 +0000

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/caren-shanfield-francis-medvedik-pot-growing-parents-son_n_1556515.html

Keep that war going david. lets get all the chiropractors and software engineers locked up

By: IronEdithKidd

IronEdithKidd — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:18:00 +0000

Pfft. Who needs science and facts?

By: IronEdithKidd

IronEdithKidd — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:07:00 +0000

I don’t know anyone who smokes it *because* it’s illegal. I’m an adult. That flavor of behavior is distinctly juvinile. That said, everyone I’ve ever known to smoke did so *in spite* of it being illegal.

By: tristan eldritch

tristan eldritch — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:05:00 +0000

Yeah, he didn’t know how right he was about LSD being the Bomb!

By: BillStewart2012

BillStewart2012 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:34:00 +0000

The first weekend after legalization doesn’t count when you’re looking at effects on usage rates. :-)

By: Petzl

Petzl — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:20:00 +0000

Words to live by:

Marijuana is the flame,
Heroine is the fuse,
LSD is the bomb.

That’s kind of weird, though, I think. He starts criticizing drugs, then ends up complimenting LSD.

Make up your mind, Sgt. Friday!

By: EH

EH — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:29:00 +0000

Nice hunk of received wisdom, pal.

By: EH

EH — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:29:00 +0000

If you’re both lucky and don’t smoke pot, you can rise to the heights of a David Frum.

By: EH

EH — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:22:00 +0000

Have you ever known anybody who grew up in a town where gambling is legal?

By: pjcamp

pjcamp — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:20:00 +0000

“young Americans deserve better than to be led to a future shrouded in a drug-induced haze.”

If what we deserve is Republicans, give me the drugs.

Oh god! Right now!

By: eldueno

eldueno — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:01:00 +0000

I think we can all agree that by decriminalization possession of MJ, there will be less persons in jail. I don’t agree that decriminalization will spike a rise in the use of MJ. Those who like the smoke will still smoke it and those who think it dumb or injurious to health will continue to refrain.

By: paulio

paulio — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:09:00 +0000

“someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a suboptimal intellectual level all of the time”
I’m not going to argue that by smoking it every day you don’t live under the residual effects of cannabis, but to imply that his sober intellectual level is superior to my currently stoned mind is laughable. The drivel he is spreading should be illegalised.

By: eldueno

eldueno — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:38:00 +0000

Of course smoking MJ damages the respitory system to eventually cause the damages described in my post. Studies also show that if smoked before the frontal lobes are compelled, permanent mental impairment can result. But, these are not reasons to make smoking MJ illegal; they are only reasons to not smoke MJ. But then, I’m not here to convince you, only to warn you.

By: jimh

jimh — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:20:00 +0000

“Stoney and I would go over to Buckle’s and Puff would turn us on to a hot load of mescaline crumbled into a tumbler of ether with a float of Percocet jimmies. I’d wake up with blood on my ass… and then… we’d get high. Those were some goooood times.”

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:48:00 +0000

Make sure to dip them in glint before inhaling.

By: Handletag

Handletag — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:37:00 +0000

January 2012: Marijuana does not impair lung function—at least not in the doses inhaled by the majority of users, according to the largest and longest study ever to consider the issue, which was published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

By: Handletag

Handletag — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:29:00 +0000

The social warping of the War on Some Drugs (part 72 of 935):

1. The more you have to lose, the more you fear anti-drug laws.

2. As a result, overt drug use is inversely correlated with “achievement”.

3. So users are losers.

4. Thus drugs must remain illegal.

Repeat as necessary…

By: eldueno

eldueno — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:05:00 +0000

Hitting oneself on the head with a hammer and smoking MJ are both harmful practices, the hammer causes direct injuries to the head while the MJ causes changes to the airways eventually lung cancer or if you are lucky only chronic bronchitis or emphysema. But why make these idiotic practices criminal? It doesn’t take much for an idiot to harm himself.

By: Dv Revolutionary

Dv Revolutionary — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:56:00 +0000

I think he’s talking about forgetting the jail (it’s expensive) and upping the consequences in order to force people into changing their behavior. Like any good crusader he says it’s for their own good but I can really see it being even more cruel than what we have now.

By: Aaron Gilliland

Aaron Gilliland — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:56:00 +0000

a.k.a. Flappy Donuts

By: Cowicide

Cowicide — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:42:00 +0000

This from the guy who endorsed Romney and actually thought he could win.

A well-known side effect of oxycontin is confusion; Especially if you mix it with alcohol.

By: Aaron Gilliland

Aaron Gilliland — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:34:00 +0000

Oh no. Another mix-up at the Frum Factory.

You order a Barbara and they send you a David.