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	<title>Comments on: New Orleans schools ban teaching Creationism, reject Texas Creationist &quot;science&quot;&#160;textbooks</title>
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		<title>By: CATRYNA49</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614726</link>
		<dc:creator>CATRYNA49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public school is a &quot;Government school.&quot; The teacher is a &quot;Government official.&quot; Thus there has to be separation of government and religion. Why is that so difficult to understand? Religion should be taught in the home, as there are too many different beliefs and opinions that do not agree with each other. Creationism if taught in the school would be by any definition, more than likely incorrect, as it would have to have government sanction and we all know what that means. Just let it go and take care of your own children in this respect as God commands, anyway. It is none of the government&#039;s business and certainly not the schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public school is a &#8220;Government school.&#8221; The teacher is a &#8220;Government official.&#8221; Thus there has to be separation of government and religion. Why is that so difficult to understand? Religion should be taught in the home, as there are too many different beliefs and opinions that do not agree with each other. Creationism if taught in the school would be by any definition, more than likely incorrect, as it would have to have government sanction and we all know what that means. Just let it go and take care of your own children in this respect as God commands, anyway. It is none of the government&#8217;s business and certainly not the schools.</p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
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		<dc:creator>robcat2075</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Religion is about believing the truth without evidence.  Science is about proving the truth with evidence.

They are both about the same thing.&quot;

So &quot;with&quot; and &quot;without &quot; are about the same thing.  Yup, that will work well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Religion is about believing the truth without evidence.  Science is about proving the truth with evidence.</p>
<p>They are both about the same thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8220;with&#8221; and &#8220;without &#8221; are about the same thing.  Yup, that will work well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Sanders</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614623</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m (sheds single tear) so happy... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m (sheds single tear) so happy&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614538</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I constantly have to remember this (well, something like this) since I&#039;ve moved to the Bay Area in California. Everyone likes to think of California as this awesome progressive place, but if you&#039;ve ever taken the highway between San Francisco and Los Angeles, you&#039;ll see that there&#039;s nothing in between except irrigated farms in the desert with billboards up complaining about how Congress is taking away the water that they artificially have. The exact area, by the way, which defeated the gay marriage equality act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I constantly have to remember this (well, something like this) since I&#8217;ve moved to the Bay Area in California. Everyone likes to think of California as this awesome progressive place, but if you&#8217;ve ever taken the highway between San Francisco and Los Angeles, you&#8217;ll see that there&#8217;s nothing in between except irrigated farms in the desert with billboards up complaining about how Congress is taking away the water that they artificially have. The exact area, by the way, which defeated the gay marriage equality act.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614535</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Festivus. A Festivus miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Festivus. A Festivus miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614355</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A lot of people think that, which is why it probably happens so much to religions.&quot;

And where do those people come from? Within the faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A lot of people think that, which is why it probably happens so much to religions.&#8221;</p>
<p>And where do those people come from? Within the faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614232</link>
		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t understand atheism.  The only thing atheism believes is that you should work off of evidence.  An atheist for instance realizes that particle physics as we currently model it could very well be wrong.  It accepts that that belief might get upended tomorrow.  However, in the meantime, it makes sense to believe that particle physics is more likely to be closer to the truth than believing that very small invisible turtles push particles around.  Both could technically be true, but based upon observations of the world, particle physics as we currently understand it more likely to be correct than the invisible turtle theory.

Likewise, an atheist could accept that there is a Christian god, that we are in a big VR sim, or that the flying spaghetti monster are what we have in store for the afterlife.  That said, seeing as how we have never found any even vaguely verifiable evidence of magic/gods/whatever, it is more likely that once you are dead, what appears to happen when you die is exactly what happens you die... you die and stay dead.  It isn&#039;t an absolute belief that can&#039;t be shaken, but it is close enough to live by.

As an atheist, I think that it is entirely possible that we are living in some big computer simulation on some dude&#039;s desk.  I accept this as being a possibility, and a possibility that isn&#039;t all that far fetched.  That said, I live my life like I am not a computer simulation because there is no strong evidence to make me believe otherwise.  Likewise, I don&#039;t live my life going to church and or by following the rules of ancient superstitious goat herders because while it is possible that they are right, there is no evidence for it.  I have a strict &quot;assume reality is real&quot; position that I tend to stick to until prove otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t understand atheism.  The only thing atheism believes is that you should work off of evidence.  An atheist for instance realizes that particle physics as we currently model it could very well be wrong.  It accepts that that belief might get upended tomorrow.  However, in the meantime, it makes sense to believe that particle physics is more likely to be closer to the truth than believing that very small invisible turtles push particles around.  Both could technically be true, but based upon observations of the world, particle physics as we currently understand it more likely to be correct than the invisible turtle theory.</p>
<p>Likewise, an atheist could accept that there is a Christian god, that we are in a big VR sim, or that the flying spaghetti monster are what we have in store for the afterlife.  That said, seeing as how we have never found any even vaguely verifiable evidence of magic/gods/whatever, it is more likely that once you are dead, what appears to happen when you die is exactly what happens you die&#8230; you die and stay dead.  It isn&#8217;t an absolute belief that can&#8217;t be shaken, but it is close enough to live by.</p>
<p>As an atheist, I think that it is entirely possible that we are living in some big computer simulation on some dude&#8217;s desk.  I accept this as being a possibility, and a possibility that isn&#8217;t all that far fetched.  That said, I live my life like I am not a computer simulation because there is no strong evidence to make me believe otherwise.  Likewise, I don&#8217;t live my life going to church and or by following the rules of ancient superstitious goat herders because while it is possible that they are right, there is no evidence for it.  I have a strict &#8220;assume reality is real&#8221; position that I tend to stick to until prove otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: tubacat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614190</link>
		<dc:creator>tubacat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Wow-that&#039;s an interesting conglomeration you&#039;ve put forward (&quot;science filtering untrue notions out of religious traditions&quot;). No serious scientist I know of spends any time trying to &quot;prove&quot; or &quot;disprove&quot; notions from religious traditions. There are much more important questions to answer, and scientists are aware that you can&#039;t &quot;prove&quot; anything to a believer who doesn&#039;t want to believe what they are being told (hence the rejection of evolution by some Christians). And I keep putting &quot;prove&quot; in quotes, because scientists also know that the best you can do is look at what the evidence supports, that scientific &quot;truth&quot; can change, and that the only place you can actually prove something is in mathematics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Wow-that&#8217;s an interesting conglomeration you&#8217;ve put forward (&#8220;science filtering untrue notions out of religious traditions&#8221;). No serious scientist I know of spends any time trying to &#8220;prove&#8221; or &#8220;disprove&#8221; notions from religious traditions. There are much more important questions to answer, and scientists are aware that you can&#8217;t &#8220;prove&#8221; anything to a believer who doesn&#8217;t want to believe what they are being told (hence the rejection of evolution by some Christians). And I keep putting &#8220;prove&#8221; in quotes, because scientists also know that the best you can do is look at what the evidence supports, that scientific &#8220;truth&#8221; can change, and that the only place you can actually prove something is in mathematics.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614184</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do not say religion and science are the same thing... Actually, I said they are &quot;about&quot; the same thing:  Truth.&quot;

Objective truth versus subjective experiential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do not say religion and science are the same thing&#8230; Actually, I said they are &#8220;about&#8221; the same thing:  Truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Objective truth versus subjective experiential.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614182</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Religion is about believing the truth without evidence. Science is about proving the truth with evidence.
They are both about the same thing.&quot;

What on earth are you babbling about? Stop conflating things foolishly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Religion is about believing the truth without evidence. Science is about proving the truth with evidence.<br />
They are both about the same thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>What on earth are you babbling about? Stop conflating things foolishly.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614180</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that would be my take on it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that would be my take on it, too.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614181</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WA as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WA as well.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614179</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;devout catholic&quot;

I doubt this. He&#039;s much more concerned with courting the Protestant evangelical vote than he is to practice his own faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;devout catholic&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt this. He&#8217;s much more concerned with courting the Protestant evangelical vote than he is to practice his own faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirby Schroeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirby Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That&#039;s part of the point, I think: California is VERY red in terms of square miles... But square miles do not vote, and California&#039;s urban areas are pretty massive and growing while the state&#039;s rural areas are in a steady population decline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s part of the point, I think: California is VERY red in terms of square miles&#8230; But square miles do not vote, and California&#8217;s urban areas are pretty massive and growing while the state&#8217;s rural areas are in a steady population decline.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Stark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614134</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  Like I repeated above, I said religion and science are -about- the same thing, being:  The Truth.

Are you saying that atheists do not believe that God does not exist?  

It certainly is interesting how people all define some words a little differently, resulting in
insynchronicities in communications.  I have found that in my interviews, atheists all have a slightly different description of what they think atheism is,and your expressions in this regard adds to that variety of definitions an most unique interpretation, for which I thank you for your interesting input.

As per evolution, I have always viewed evolution as a critical part of creation, and not in competition with it.  Neither denies the other, only people do, in their combative interpretations which regard science and some of the things taught by religion as in opposition.

Where science and religion meet and agree, is in the truth, whether confirmed by science, or yet to be confirmed by science, while the faithful wait for the proof which science promises to verify (one day).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Like I repeated above, I said religion and science are -about- the same thing, being:  The Truth.</p>
<p>Are you saying that atheists do not believe that God does not exist?  </p>
<p>It certainly is interesting how people all define some words a little differently, resulting in<br />
insynchronicities in communications.  I have found that in my interviews, atheists all have a slightly different description of what they think atheism is,and your expressions in this regard adds to that variety of definitions an most unique interpretation, for which I thank you for your interesting input.</p>
<p>As per evolution, I have always viewed evolution as a critical part of creation, and not in competition with it.  Neither denies the other, only people do, in their combative interpretations which regard science and some of the things taught by religion as in opposition.</p>
<p>Where science and religion meet and agree, is in the truth, whether confirmed by science, or yet to be confirmed by science, while the faithful wait for the proof which science promises to verify (one day).</p>
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		<title>By: Petzl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614120</link>
		<dc:creator>Petzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this may count as &quot;rebelling against God&quot; and/or &quot;not letting God into the classroom.&quot;

I fear a disaster, natural or man-made, will soon hit Louisiana, and they have only themselves to blame. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this may count as &#8220;rebelling against God&#8221; and/or &#8220;not letting God into the classroom.&#8221;</p>
<p>I fear a disaster, natural or man-made, will soon hit Louisiana, and they have only themselves to blame. </p>
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		<title>By: Petzl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please. You know that Religion and Science are in no way the same thing.

Also, atheists don&#039;t have religious beliefs.  They are asserting that there&#039;s no evidentiary basis for beliefs the religious hold.  That assertion is not a &quot;belief.&quot; It is, as you yourself said, a fact.

But, I&#039;ll give you points for not saying evolution is &quot;just&quot; a theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please. You know that Religion and Science are in no way the same thing.</p>
<p>Also, atheists don&#8217;t have religious beliefs.  They are asserting that there&#8217;s no evidentiary basis for beliefs the religious hold.  That assertion is not a &#8220;belief.&#8221; It is, as you yourself said, a fact.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;ll give you points for not saying evolution is &#8220;just&#8221; a theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Selena60</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614106</link>
		<dc:creator>Selena60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the Baptists will keep sending floods until NO gets the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the Baptists will keep sending floods until NO gets the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people think that, which is why it probably happens so much  to religions.

Interesting to note that school on  the other hand certainly does seek  to control and abuse people, by  some interpretations.

In looking at the teaching of Christ, which some people call a religion, it is interesting to note that Jesus taught people to be loving and the opposite of  being controlling, yet most who claim  to be followers of his teaching do not  follow it, and do the opposite, which others then copy and call &quot;Christianity&quot;, defaming the teaching of Jesus, which itself is a fine practical teaching of the laws of physics in commonplace terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people think that, which is why it probably happens so much  to religions.</p>
<p>Interesting to note that school on  the other hand certainly does seek  to control and abuse people, by  some interpretations.</p>
<p>In looking at the teaching of Christ, which some people call a religion, it is interesting to note that Jesus taught people to be loving and the opposite of  being controlling, yet most who claim  to be followers of his teaching do not  follow it, and do the opposite, which others then copy and call &#8220;Christianity&#8221;, defaming the teaching of Jesus, which itself is a fine practical teaching of the laws of physics in commonplace terms.</p>
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		<title>By: rbdewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbdewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a proud product of the Orleans Parish school system and current scientist , this is the best headline I&#039;ve seen in a while. A true christmas gift</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a proud product of the Orleans Parish school system and current scientist , this is the best headline I&#8217;ve seen in a while. A true christmas gift</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s going against the Vatican, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s going against the Vatican, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The church&#039;s position on contraception is prescriptive (well, actually proscriptive); its position on evolution is descriptive.  The former doesn&#039;t require science since it&#039;s just a rule and, &quot;Because I said so,&quot; is sufficient justification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church&#8217;s position on contraception is prescriptive (well, actually proscriptive); its position on evolution is descriptive.  The former doesn&#8217;t require science since it&#8217;s just a rule and, &#8220;Because I said so,&#8221; is sufficient justification.</p>
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		<title>By: rbdewell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614023</link>
		<dc:creator>rbdewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This had to be passed because the devout catholic governor was the one pushing to teach creationism across the state. Thank God they did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This had to be passed because the devout catholic governor was the one pushing to teach creationism across the state. Thank God they did</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614021</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The object of religion is the truth&lt;/blockquote&gt;Funny, I thought that the object was to control and abuse other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The object of religion is the truth</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny, I thought that the object was to control and abuse other people.</p>
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		<title>By: ocker3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614019</link>
		<dc:creator>ocker3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> There&#039;s a lot of red in Cali as well, if you ignore the cities
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> There&#8217;s a lot of red in Cali as well, if you ignore the cities</p>
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		<title>By: ocker3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614018</link>
		<dc:creator>ocker3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m willing to agree that Louisianans might, but just because they&#039;re Catholic? The Pope sure doesn&#039;t use science to back up his position on contraception</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m willing to agree that Louisianans might, but just because they&#8217;re Catholic? The Pope sure doesn&#8217;t use science to back up his position on contraception</p>
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		<title>By: ohbejoyful</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1614005</link>
		<dc:creator>ohbejoyful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You spelled &quot;two&quot; wrong.  Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You spelled &#8220;two&#8221; wrong.  Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Stark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1613985</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not say religion and science are the same thing... Actually, I said they are &quot;about&quot; the same thing:  Truth.

Most atheists act like the burden of proof is upon non- atheists to prove God exists, based on the presumption that it does not exist until proven otherwise.

I look at the science, and find no difference between  atheists and other types of religious people in this  respect, neither  of which present scientific evidence to support their beliefs.  Atheists view themselves as being non-religious, yet believing God does not
exists is as religious a belief as believing IT does exist, where there is no scientific proof to show the belief is true.

An atheist has faith that God does not exist.

Science verifies which religious beliefs are true, and which are not, and in this respect, they are compatible and are complimentary, with science filtering untrue notions out of religious traditions, and in this respect science itself could be  considered an aspect of religion.

The object of religion is the truth, as is the case with science, both respect and seek this same thing, and while science is method for proving the truth, religion relies upon &quot;gut feeling&quot; and other  senses to discern the truth in a manner of theoretical science, which is then just believed until science either verifies the truth or that which is untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not say religion and science are the same thing&#8230; Actually, I said they are &#8220;about&#8221; the same thing:  Truth.</p>
<p>Most atheists act like the burden of proof is upon non- atheists to prove God exists, based on the presumption that it does not exist until proven otherwise.</p>
<p>I look at the science, and find no difference between  atheists and other types of religious people in this  respect, neither  of which present scientific evidence to support their beliefs.  Atheists view themselves as being non-religious, yet believing God does not<br />
exists is as religious a belief as believing IT does exist, where there is no scientific proof to show the belief is true.</p>
<p>An atheist has faith that God does not exist.</p>
<p>Science verifies which religious beliefs are true, and which are not, and in this respect, they are compatible and are complimentary, with science filtering untrue notions out of religious traditions, and in this respect science itself could be  considered an aspect of religion.</p>
<p>The object of religion is the truth, as is the case with science, both respect and seek this same thing, and while science is method for proving the truth, religion relies upon &#8220;gut feeling&#8221; and other  senses to discern the truth in a manner of theoretical science, which is then just believed until science either verifies the truth or that which is untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Harvey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1613968</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. 

Religion is about believing *something* without evidence. 
Science is about examining the evidence, in order to arrive at the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. </p>
<p>Religion is about believing *something* without evidence.<br />
Science is about examining the evidence, in order to arrive at the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/new-orleans-schools-ban-teachi.html#comment-1613962</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louisiana is heavily Catholic.  They officially believe in science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louisiana is heavily Catholic.  They officially believe in science.</p>
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