Comments on: Supreme Court of Italy decrees: Telling a man he has no balls is a crime http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1615514 wysinwyg Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1615514  Not sure how Marja's comment constitutes misandry.  Nor am I sure I understand why you included all this bio gobbledygook when almost all of gender is culturally determined (go ahead and do a survey of what's constituted "manly" in different times and different cultures if you disagree).  Frankly, I agree with Marja.  Most of what passes for "masculinity" in our culture is a bunch of conformist bullshit.  I can't think of anything really worthwhile that a man can do that a woman can't or vice versa ignoring the basic reproductive differences between the sexes so I'm also not too sure what's so great about being "manly" (or "feminine" for that matter, which may be what led you to believe Marja's comment was misandrist I suppose).  Not sure how Marja’s comment constitutes misandry.  Nor am I sure I understand why you included all this bio gobbledygook when almost all of gender is culturally determined (go ahead and do a survey of what’s constituted “manly” in different times and different cultures if you disagree). 

Frankly, I agree with Marja.  Most of what passes for “masculinity” in our culture is a bunch of conformist bullshit.  I can’t think of anything really worthwhile that a man can do that a woman can’t or vice versa ignoring the basic reproductive differences between the sexes so I’m also not too sure what’s so great about being “manly” (or “feminine” for that matter, which may be what led you to believe Marja’s comment was misandrist I suppose).

]]> By: Jake0748 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614598 Jake0748 Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614598 Needs more cowbell. Needs more cowbell.

]]> By: Ernest Valdemar http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614549 Ernest Valdemar Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614549 Phht. Forget Italy. Big balls in Cowtown. ("We'll all go down.") http://youtu.be/Hdk4WVgZjzw Phht. Forget Italy. Big balls in Cowtown. (“We’ll all go down.”)

http://youtu.be/Hdk4WVgZjzw

]]> By: Aloisius http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614285 Aloisius Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614285 You know what's not manly? Suing someone because you got your feelings hurt when someone called you a name. You know what’s not manly? Suing someone because you got your feelings hurt when someone called you a name.

]]> By: Ipo http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614223 Ipo Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614223  No, you don't.  I don't understand men either, but you really don't.  And I'm confused by your view.  Why should anyone want to seem less or more manly then they are?  Why should anyone feel uncomfortable with their gender?  It happens a lot, but it isn't desirable.  XX versus XY sex chromosomes, the testis-determining gene Sry, androgen and testosterone levels are a roll of the dice.  The mechanisms nature employs to assign gender and sex have worked "well", seeing that 7 billion of us pawned every other species but some micro organisms.  I've read somewhere that in "primitive" society groups a newborn's life expectancy is far higher if the mother has a homosexual brother.  In a hostile environment such group also benefits from having members that are built more robust, have more muscle growth, a lower inhibition threshold for violence who are stupidly, insanely courageous and fiercely protective.   Egoistic genes, how do they work?  It used to take all kinds.  I've been led to believe that today a great many men concern themselves with penis enlargement, steroids, erection aids and raising insoles next to their shiny expensive phallic symbols, wishing so much to be manly men.  Not being equal, is misandry the answer to misogyny?   No, you don’t. 
I don’t understand men either, but you really don’t.  And I’m confused by your view. 

Why should anyone want to seem less or more manly then they are?  Why should anyone feel uncomfortable with their gender?  It happens a lot, but it isn’t desirable. 

XX versus XY sex chromosomes, the testis-determining gene Sry, androgen and testosterone levels are a roll of the dice. 
The mechanisms nature employs to assign gender and sex have worked “well”, seeing that 7 billion of us pawned every other species but some micro organisms. 
I’ve read somewhere that in “primitive” society groups a newborn’s life expectancy is far higher if the mother has a homosexual brother.  In a hostile environment such group also benefits from having members that are built more robust, have more muscle growth, a lower inhibition threshold for violence who are stupidly, insanely courageous and fiercely protective.   Egoistic genes, how do they work?  It used to take all kinds. 
I’ve been led to believe that today a great many men concern themselves with penis enlargement, steroids, erection aids and raising insoles next to their shiny expensive phallic symbols, wishing so much to be manly men. 

Not being equal, is misandry the answer to misogyny? 

]]> By: onereader http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614206 onereader Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614206 The same supreme court decided that the insult trascended is literal meaning and it can be judged insulting speech even when referrred to a woman. The same supreme court decided that the insult trascended is literal meaning and it can be judged insulting speech even when referrred to a woman.

]]> By: onereader http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614202 onereader Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614202 No, it's not legal, it can still be considered insulting speech according to that same supreme court in a diferent case (24964/12). This is an insult, not a diagnosis, calling someone a motherfucker is insulting even if that someone is physically unable or an orphan. No, it’s not legal, it can still be considered insulting speech according to that same supreme court in a diferent case (24964/12).

This is an insult, not a diagnosis, calling someone a motherfucker is insulting even if that someone is physically unable or an orphan.

]]> By: Ipo http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614200 Ipo Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614200  "You have no ammo!"   ”You have no ammo!” 

]]> By: Carsten Agger http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614198 Carsten Agger Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614198 Hmmff, so what would you say to THIS guy? (Warning: Picture is NSFW in some jurisdictions.) Back story: The guy on the picture is Peter Aalbæk Jensen, Danish film producer and overall rich guy (known for producing a lot of Lars von Trier's films). He published this as a full-page ad in two national newspapers as part of a dispute with parts of the press who have been (probably rightfullly) accusing him of abusing his employees and abusing public film support money for personal gains. But look how much he cares!  Our own little Berlusconi wannabe. :) http://jyllands-posten.dk/kultur/film/article4956458.ece, in Danish, you could Google translate it. Hmmff, so what would you say to THIS guy? (Warning: Picture is NSFW in some jurisdictions.)

Back story: The guy on the picture is Peter Aalbæk Jensen, Danish film producer and overall rich guy (known for producing a lot of Lars von Trier’s films). He published this as a full-page ad in two national newspapers as part of a dispute with parts of the press who have been (probably rightfullly) accusing him of abusing his employees and abusing public film support money for personal gains.

But look how much he cares!  Our own little Berlusconi wannabe. :)

http://jyllands-posten.dk/kultur/film/article4956458.ece, in Danish, you could Google translate it.

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614152 cdh1971 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614152 Indeed...I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. Indeed…I don’t know about you, but I take comfort in that.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614151 Antinous / Moderator Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614151 They're about as ball-shaped as testicles are. They’re about as ball-shaped as testicles are.

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614137 cdh1971 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614137 Hmmm....I agree with your sentiment....but do not women also have balls that can function as a source of strength? Hmmm….I agree with your sentiment….but do not women also have balls that can function as a source of strength?

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614129 cdh1971 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614129 Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby Ain't nothing like the real thing Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby Ain't nothing like the real thing... Ain’t nothing like the real thing, baby
Ain’t nothing like the real thing
Ain’t nothing like the real thing, baby
Ain’t nothing like the real thing…

]]> By: Al_Packer http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614069 Al_Packer Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614069  An AR15 is a substitute for adequate male reproductory anatomy.  An AR15 is a substitute for adequate male reproductory anatomy.

]]> By: Selena60 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614041 Selena60 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614041 According to the ad, having an AR15 makes you feel manly (just don't point and shoot at your balls) According to the ad, having an AR15 makes you feel manly (just don’t point and shoot at your balls)

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614012 cdh1971 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614012 Still a fan...I wouldn't call her nutless though...but had to be said. Still a fan…I wouldn’t call her nutless though…but had to be said.

]]> By: eldritch http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614007 eldritch Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614007 Not sure if sarcasm... *glances shiftily at 'Merika* Not sure if sarcasm…

*glances shiftily at ‘Merika*

]]> By: ocker3 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614001 ocker3 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614001  We don't wear the kind of clothing necessary for that anymore  We don’t wear the kind of clothing necessary for that anymore

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1614002 Antinous / Moderator Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1614002 What kind of nutless wonder would sue somebody over an insult? What kind of nutless wonder would sue somebody over an insult?

]]> By: ocker3 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613999 ocker3 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613999  Sheesh that took a while! Good news though  Sheesh that took a while! Good news though

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613992 cdh1971 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613992 Ser Jardine...I really liked the video...thank-you for the link. Ser Jardine…I really liked the video…thank-you for the link.

]]> By: oldtaku http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613981 oldtaku Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613981 Testify! Testify!

]]> By: Lupus_Yonderboy http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613971 Lupus_Yonderboy Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613971 Personally, I quite like being "manly".  Of course, I wouldn't get upset if someone told me I had no balls, so maybe I'm not the manly you're looking for.  (I would, however, laugh into my full beard and drink some whiskey, perhaps while starting a fire.) Personally, I quite like being “manly”.  Of course, I wouldn’t get upset if someone told me I had no balls, so maybe I’m not the manly you’re looking for.  (I would, however, laugh into my full beard and drink some whiskey, perhaps while starting a fire.)

]]> By: Mutation_Engine http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613963 Mutation_Engine Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613963  Urgh, onereader, you know have to disguise better when out from under bridge. Be too obvious and make rest of us look dumb. Also you turn to confront goats who cross. Why you not at post? ... Look, goat cross because you here and not there. Bad onereader!  Urgh, onereader, you know have to disguise better when out from under bridge.
Be too obvious and make rest of us look dumb. Also you turn to confront goats who cross. Why you not at post?
…
Look, goat cross because you here and not there. Bad onereader!

]]> By: Jardine http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613958 Jardine Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613958 You mean these guys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SEYJZNI7dw You mean these guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SEYJZNI7dw

]]> By: Peter http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613946 Peter Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613946 But what about the mere fact that considering "lacking a physical quality only males possess" as an insult, is itself an insult to women?  What are we doing to redress that? But what about the mere fact that considering “lacking a physical quality only males possess” as an insult, is itself an insult to women?  What are we doing to redress that?

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613928 cdh1971 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613928 I dunno. Depends on one's definition  of manly I reckon ;) I dunno. Depends on one’s definition  of manly I reckon ;)

]]> By: Marja Erwin http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613921 Marja Erwin Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613921 Why would someone want to seem at all manly? Why wouldn't someone prefer to seem at least less manly if not completely unmanly? *confused* I don't understand men. Why would someone want to seem at all manly? Why wouldn’t someone prefer to seem at least less manly if not completely unmanly? *confused*

I don’t understand men.

]]> By: adamrice http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613915 adamrice Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613915 Suing somebody who has insulted you by saying that you have no balls also makes you seem unmanly. Sometimes a guy just can't win. Suing somebody who has insulted you by saying that you have no balls also makes you seem unmanly.

Sometimes a guy just can’t win.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/supreme-court-of-italy-decrees.html#comment-1613907 Brainspore Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=202137#comment-1613907 But is it still legal to tell a <em>woman</em> that she has no balls? But is it still legal to tell a woman that she has no balls?

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