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	<title>Comments on: Working record made from&#160;ice</title>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1618262</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the film Back to the Future, CDs will become obsolete in the year...well, I forget what year they were supposed to be in. But someday I&#039;ll watch the film again and record the date. On that day in the futurre, perhaps I&#039;ll return here and add that date as an addendum to my reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the film Back to the Future, CDs will become obsolete in the year&#8230;well, I forget what year they were supposed to be in. But someday I&#8217;ll watch the film again and record the date. On that day in the futurre, perhaps I&#8217;ll return here and add that date as an addendum to my reply.</p>
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		<title>By: doomslang</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617462</link>
		<dc:creator>doomslang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s two things that are suspicious about this video.  The needle never moves towards the center of the record, also the needle is moved in the beginning after the music has already started.  So the video is absolutely not of the record playing in real time.  That alone isn&#039;t enough to prove for sure that the audio is not an overdubbing of an actual ice record...But it&#039;s kind of weird that an ice record would sound so much better than the 3D-printed records you guys recently posted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s two things that are suspicious about this video.  The needle never moves towards the center of the record, also the needle is moved in the beginning after the music has already started.  So the video is absolutely not of the record playing in real time.  That alone isn&#8217;t enough to prove for sure that the audio is not an overdubbing of an actual ice record&#8230;But it&#8217;s kind of weird that an ice record would sound so much better than the 3D-printed records you guys recently posted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: freshacconci</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617461</link>
		<dc:creator>freshacconci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do know that CDs will no longer be produced within a few years and sales of vinyl continue to rise every year, right? Vinyl will ever again be what is was, the dominant format, but it has returned in a big way (not that it ever actually disappeared -- ever hear of DJs and turn tabling?). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do know that CDs will no longer be produced within a few years and sales of vinyl continue to rise every year, right? Vinyl will ever again be what is was, the dominant format, but it has returned in a big way (not that it ever actually disappeared &#8212; ever hear of DJs and turn tabling?). </p>
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		<title>By: Ted Bautista</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617437</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Bautista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIAA&#039;s wet dream. self destructing media you&#039;ll have to buy again and again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIAA&#8217;s wet dream. self destructing media you&#8217;ll have to buy again and again</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Schiller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617317</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone made any cracks about &quot;ice nine&quot; yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone made any cracks about &#8220;ice nine&#8221; yet?</p>
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		<title>By: flickerKuu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617286</link>
		<dc:creator>flickerKuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Too bad her last name isnt &quot;Simpsons&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Too bad her last name isnt &#8220;Simpsons&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: flickerKuu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617284</link>
		<dc:creator>flickerKuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t very well thought out. Between destroying $100 needles and shorting out $1000 record players, I see no point in even trying this.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t very well thought out. Between destroying $100 needles and shorting out $1000 record players, I see no point in even trying this.  </p>
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		<title>By: John Neumann</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617279</link>
		<dc:creator>John Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read that you shouldn&#039;t play a wet record (e.g. immediately after washing it) because the glue that holds the diamond tip to the stylus cantilever is often water soluble. That&#039;s where the damage would probably first occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that you shouldn&#8217;t play a wet record (e.g. immediately after washing it) because the glue that holds the diamond tip to the stylus cantilever is often water soluble. That&#8217;s where the damage would probably first occur.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Elyard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617265</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Elyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then it poses no significant risk to the needle (nor, likely, the electrical components).

But who really expects to begin playing records made of ice, anyway? It&#039;s cool, neat, and rather nifty. I don&#039;t see any genuine suggestion that it replace vinyl or other practical media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then it poses no significant risk to the needle (nor, likely, the electrical components).</p>
<p>But who really expects to begin playing records made of ice, anyway? It&#8217;s cool, neat, and rather nifty. I don&#8217;t see any genuine suggestion that it replace vinyl or other practical media.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Elyard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617256</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Elyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That rely on electricity&quot; My understanding of electrified metal (metal with a current running through it) is that it is less apt to corrode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That rely on electricity&#8221; My understanding of electrified metal (metal with a current running through it) is that it is less apt to corrode.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617254</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bet you it&#039;d rick roll us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bet you it&#8217;d rick roll us</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617202</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should make the latex mold so you can turn the ice upside down and place it back in the mold before playing it, if you&#039;re worried about your turntable..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should make the latex mold so you can turn the ice upside down and place it back in the mold before playing it, if you&#8217;re worried about your turntable..</p>
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		<title>By: TheOven</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617200</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m sure the actual stone part of the needle would be fine, the metal bits what rely on electricity might, I dunno, get wet and corrode. But please, feel free to play all the ice records you&#039;d like, on your own all diamond and Safire turntable. Stay away from mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m sure the actual stone part of the needle would be fine, the metal bits what rely on electricity might, I dunno, get wet and corrode. But please, feel free to play all the ice records you&#8217;d like, on your own all diamond and Safire turntable. Stay away from mine.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOven</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617201</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not entirely, no. See above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not entirely, no. See above.</p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617178</link>
		<dc:creator>robcat2075</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Montréal has a wonderful, year-round selection of frozen LPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Montréal has a wonderful, year-round selection of frozen LPs.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617167</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always put a piece of absorbent cloth under the record.</description>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617164</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s just a bit below freezing, I&#039;d imagine you&#039;d be OK.  If you&#039;ve got a belt drive turntable, very cold temperatures might make drive belt stiffen up somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s just a bit below freezing, I&#8217;d imagine you&#8217;d be OK.  If you&#8217;ve got a belt drive turntable, very cold temperatures might make drive belt stiffen up somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: MissCellania</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617150</link>
		<dc:creator>MissCellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A brilliant  marketing move. It&#039;s hard to get blogs to post &quot;just a music video&quot; these days, but add some new geeky gimmick, and this video is all over the place. People who would have never heard this band&#039;s music will hear it, even if in scratchy ice, or at least hear their name. They only sent ten kits and get tons of coverage. Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brilliant  marketing move. It&#8217;s hard to get blogs to post &#8220;just a music video&#8221; these days, but add some new geeky gimmick, and this video is all over the place. People who would have never heard this band&#8217;s music will hear it, even if in scratchy ice, or at least hear their name. They only sent ten kits and get tons of coverage. Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: sigismund</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617137</link>
		<dc:creator>sigismund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> a White Walker DJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> a White Walker DJ.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Moser</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617134</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One step closer to Dethklok&#039;s water recording!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One step closer to Dethklok&#8217;s water recording!</p>
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		<title>By: euansmith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617107</link>
		<dc:creator>euansmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that the Heston Blumenthal version of this would includ a bottle of Liquid Nitrogen.

Heston? Strange first name. I wonder if he is named after Charlton &quot;From My Cold Dead Hands&quot; Heston? If so, quite appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that the Heston Blumenthal version of this would includ a bottle of Liquid Nitrogen.</p>
<p>Heston? Strange first name. I wonder if he is named after Charlton &#8220;From My Cold Dead Hands&#8221; Heston? If so, quite appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: euansmith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617104</link>
		<dc:creator>euansmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &quot;sound like crap and fall apart in 30 seconds?&quot; What, are we discussing the winners of Simon Cowell programmes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8221;sound like crap and fall apart in 30 seconds?&#8221; What, are we discussing the winners of Simon Cowell programmes?</p>
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		<title>By: shutz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617044</link>
		<dc:creator>shutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You really need to get out more.  While it&#039;s still a niche thing, vinyl is gaining in popularity.  New vinyl records are being pressed every day, and old records can still fetch a premium if they&#039;re in good shape.  The big HMV store, here in downtown Montréal, has been expanding its vinyl section for the past 3-4 years.  It went from a small rack to taking up a whole wall.

I understand you were exaggerating when you wrote that &quot;there&#039;s only about 10 people on the planet who still have a turntable set up&quot; but you&#039;re not just wrong, you&#039;re way off the mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You really need to get out more.  While it&#8217;s still a niche thing, vinyl is gaining in popularity.  New vinyl records are being pressed every day, and old records can still fetch a premium if they&#8217;re in good shape.  The big HMV store, here in downtown Montréal, has been expanding its vinyl section for the past 3-4 years.  It went from a small rack to taking up a whole wall.</p>
<p>I understand you were exaggerating when you wrote that &#8220;there&#8217;s only about 10 people on the planet who still have a turntable set up&#8221; but you&#8217;re not just wrong, you&#8217;re way off the mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Elyard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617027</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Elyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinyl needles aren&#039;t made from diamond?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinyl needles aren&#8217;t made from diamond?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Elyard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617023</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Elyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That describes me. (And my laserdiscs.)

But I&#039;m not so much a vinyl lover than someone who happens to have music on vinyl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That describes me. (And my laserdiscs.)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not so much a vinyl lover than someone who happens to have music on vinyl.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phonograph needles are typically made of diamond or sapphire.  

On Mohs Hardness Scale, 
Diamond is a 10
Sapphire an 8
Mineral Ice is about 1.5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phonograph needles are typically made of diamond or sapphire.  </p>
<p>On Mohs Hardness Scale,<br />
Diamond is a 10<br />
Sapphire an 8<br />
Mineral Ice is about 1.5</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Elyard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1617019</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Elyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be pretty awesome, but not as cool as a record made out of ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be pretty awesome, but not as cool as a record made out of ice.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wiseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wiseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artist Katie Pierson did this a few years ago: &quot;Sound recordings from three glaciers in Iceland, pressed into three records, cast, and frozen with the meltwater from each of these glaciers, and played on three turntables until they completely melt.&quot;  You can listen to them at  http://www.katiepaterson.org/icerecords/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artist Katie Pierson did this a few years ago: &#8220;Sound recordings from three glaciers in Iceland, pressed into three records, cast, and frozen with the meltwater from each of these glaciers, and played on three turntables until they completely melt.&#8221;  You can listen to them at  <a href="http://www.katiepaterson.org/icerecords/" rel="nofollow">http://www.katiepaterson.org/icerecords/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daemonworks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1616971</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemonworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurray! Records that short out your record player!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurray! Records that short out your record player!</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/12/28/working-record-made-from-ice.html#comment-1616960</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citation please. Most Vinyl lovers I know collect most their records through cheap ebay sales and play their records on thrift store rigs. I spent $170 on a new shitty turntable and my friends thought I was being fancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citation please. Most Vinyl lovers I know collect most their records through cheap ebay sales and play their records on thrift store rigs. I spent $170 on a new shitty turntable and my friends thought I was being fancy.</p>
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