Comments on: Malls are dying http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 00:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: andyhavens http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618788 andyhavens Wed, 02 Jan 2013 04:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618788 I wrote a poem about the mall years ago... Stucco Thicket Small birds are somehow always in the mall. The stately, doméd food-court is their hall and tiny sky. Tad, the tall, bald man is flustered by their dives, Perturbed, trying to wind down with fries and coke. "Incoming!" his mind cries. They’ve flown by before he jolts, Curses, blushes, feels shame for such a chicken flinch. Just thrushes, sparrows. A kind of finch? Who knows, Who cares what make or model of bird lives there In the eves above the columned gates of Sears. Birds of the food-court. Birds of the mall. Tiny, spiraling tears of grey and brown. Tad wishes for a mop or broom To swat them down. I wrote a poem about the mall years ago…

Stucco Thicket

Small birds are somehow always in the mall.

The stately, doméd food-court is their hall and tiny sky.

Tad, the tall, bald man is flustered by their dives,

Perturbed, trying to wind down with fries and coke.

“Incoming!” his mind cries. They’ve flown by before he jolts,

Curses, blushes, feels shame for such a chicken flinch.

Just thrushes, sparrows. A kind of finch? Who knows,

Who cares what make or model of bird lives there

In the eves above the columned gates of Sears.

Birds of the food-court.

Birds of the mall.

Tiny, spiraling tears of grey and brown.

Tad wishes for a mop or broom

To swat them down.

]]> By: Perizade http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618741 Perizade Wed, 02 Jan 2013 01:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618741 I know it's hip to hate malls and I agree they are butt ugly. However, I am sad they are dying. First of all, they are not being replaced with businesses that are good for taxes or workers. Second of all, malls were always very disability friendly places to go. There was something for everyone, they were nicely temperature controlled, and was an affordable place to go when you had the day off. Not many places like that for disabled folks. With fuel costs going up, I wonder if there might not be a renaissance for brick and mortar stores? People can't exactly swing the Disney vacation or All American Cross Country Family Trip anymore. "Staycations" are in. Driving down to your local yarn shops, little antique stores and restaurants are all fun, and rent is cheap right now. One can dream, right? I know it’s hip to hate malls and I agree they are butt ugly. However, I am sad they are dying. First of all, they are not being replaced with businesses that are good for taxes or workers. Second of all, malls were always very disability friendly places to go. There was something for everyone, they were nicely temperature controlled, and was an affordable place to go when you had the day off. Not many places like that for disabled folks. With fuel costs going up, I wonder if there might not be a renaissance for brick and mortar stores? People can’t exactly swing the Disney vacation or All American Cross Country Family Trip anymore. “Staycations” are in. Driving down to your local yarn shops, little antique stores and restaurants are all fun, and rent is cheap right now. One can dream, right?

]]> By: Greg McCann http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618358 Greg McCann Tue, 01 Jan 2013 06:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618358  Bigger Walmarts.  Bigger Walmarts.

]]> By: Over the River http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618313 Over the River Tue, 01 Jan 2013 04:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618313 Using 'contractors' really shouldn't be called abusive labor practices. I think of child labor, prisoner (like China) more to that. It isn't "too bad I can't find anything better because this is what all employers are doing (worst case)". Using ‘contractors’ really shouldn’t be called abusive labor practices. I think of child labor, prisoner (like China) more to that. It isn’t “too bad I can’t find anything better because this is what all employers are doing (worst case)”.

]]> By: Over the River http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618311 Over the River Tue, 01 Jan 2013 04:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618311 I don't know, he lives in England and I think she is closer to LA than I am. I don’t know, he lives in England and I think she is closer to LA than I am.

]]> By: Preston Sturges http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618294 Preston Sturges Tue, 01 Jan 2013 03:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618294 Renew! Renew! Renew! Renew!

]]> By: Tim OBrien http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618166 Tim OBrien Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618166 The problem is that just a few companies (like Simon) took over ALL the malls and turned them all into the same boring places.  You can go into any mall in the US now and it's all the same exact stores, often in the same layout.  BORING. The problem is that just a few companies (like Simon) took over ALL the malls and turned them all into the same boring places.  You can go into any mall in the US now and it’s all the same exact stores, often in the same layout.  BORING.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618119 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618119 <blockquote>For example, I'm a 10.5 normal width and have never found a shoe of that size to not fit me.</blockquote>Either you have no nerve endings below the knee and are extremely myopic, or you always buy the same brand of shoes. A nominal shoe size can vary by almost an inch.

For example, I’m a 10.5 normal width and have never found a shoe of that size to not fit me.

Either you have no nerve endings below the knee and are extremely myopic, or you always buy the same brand of shoes. A nominal shoe size can vary by almost an inch.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618115 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618115 Do you go to the same dry cleaner as the Sedarises? Do you go to the same dry cleaner as the Sedarises?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618114 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618114  Welcome to the 1950s.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/corvid01/2139938902/  Welcome to the 1950s.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/corvid01/2139938902/

]]> By: Andrea http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1618085 Andrea Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1618085  You said what I was going to say - and about the same malls! Crossroads' fall was (relatively) sudden. It had a food court as late as 2002. Then Younkers left, and Dillards left.... It's strange, because the other three corners of the intersection are thriving as always. And Westroads is doing fine. As are Village Point and Shadow Lake, which are both outdoor malls built within the last 15 years. Keep in mind, this is in an area of the country where summer and winter are not pleasant seasons to be outside: the enclosed mall has an advantage. I would lay some blame on the rampant wasted space in mall design, all those massive courtyards and atriums (atria?) contributing to overhead. There are rumors of turning Crossroads into a mixed-use complex, with apartments, shopping, and business all together. My opinion is that it would be the best solution: turning old malls into new mini-downtowns.  You said what I was going to say – and about the same malls! Crossroads’ fall was (relatively) sudden. It had a food court as late as 2002. Then Younkers left, and Dillards left…. It’s strange, because the other three corners of the intersection are thriving as always.

And Westroads is doing fine. As are Village Point and Shadow Lake, which are both outdoor malls built within the last 15 years. Keep in mind, this is in an area of the country where summer and winter are not pleasant seasons to be outside: the enclosed mall has an advantage. I would lay some blame on the rampant wasted space in mall design, all those massive courtyards and atriums (atria?) contributing to overhead.

There are rumors of turning Crossroads into a mixed-use complex, with apartments, shopping, and business all together. My opinion is that it would be the best solution: turning old malls into new mini-downtowns.

]]> By: Scott Cushman http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617926 Scott Cushman Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617926 I think the decline of malls has a lot of factors contributing to it, and online shopping is only one part of that. The gentrification and re-emergence of downtowns, for example. Changes in youth culture (and where they hang out). The construction of new shopping centers in the expanded suburban periphery. The changing socio-economic status of the neighborhoods surrounding aging malls, etc. Like most trends, pointing to one cause is a bit simplistic to actually account for the change.  I was recently in Crossroads Mall in Omaha, Nebraska, while visiting my parents. It's nearly a ghost town now except for a Target anchoring it on one side, some restaurants, and companies using former store fronts as offices. It's a huge contrast to the bustling hub I remember as a kid. It's going the same way as Center Mall, Omaha's first shopping mall, which had already become office space even during the height of mall culture.  However, just down Dodge Street is Westroads Mall, which seems as busy as ever, and a new outdoor mall downtown seems to be thriving despite the snow. There's no doubt that it's harder to make profits in brick-and-mortar stores now than it was in the '80s and '90s. But what I think we're seeing isn't necessarily the death of real-world retail so much as changing urban landscapes. The neighborhoods and locations relevant to those with disposable incomes today vs. 20-30 years ago are quite different.  I think the decline of malls has a lot of factors contributing to it, and online shopping is only one part of that. The gentrification and re-emergence of downtowns, for example. Changes in youth culture (and where they hang out). The construction of new shopping centers in the expanded suburban periphery. The changing socio-economic status of the neighborhoods surrounding aging malls, etc. Like most trends, pointing to one cause is a bit simplistic to actually account for the change. 

I was recently in Crossroads Mall in Omaha, Nebraska, while visiting my parents. It’s nearly a ghost town now except for a Target anchoring it on one side, some restaurants, and companies using former store fronts as offices. It’s a huge contrast to the bustling hub I remember as a kid. It’s going the same way as Center Mall, Omaha’s first shopping mall, which had already become office space even during the height of mall culture. 
However, just down Dodge Street is Westroads Mall, which seems as busy as ever, and a new outdoor mall downtown seems to be thriving despite the snow.

There’s no doubt that it’s harder to make profits in brick-and-mortar stores now than it was in the ’80s and ’90s. But what I think we’re seeing isn’t necessarily the death of real-world retail so much as changing urban landscapes. The neighborhoods and locations relevant to those with disposable incomes today vs. 20-30 years ago are quite different. 

]]> By: Jonathan Badger http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617861 Jonathan Badger Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617861 On the opposite climate situation, going home to Wisconsin for the holidays, I discovered big box strip malls to have taken over there as well. Which makes no sense for about a third of the year. Or maybe half, as summers in Wisconsin can be pretty awful too. On the opposite climate situation, going home to Wisconsin for the holidays, I discovered big box strip malls to have taken over there as well. Which makes no sense for about a third of the year. Or maybe half, as summers in Wisconsin can be pretty awful too.

]]> By: Jonathan Badger http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617859 Jonathan Badger Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617859 <em>try shoe shopping online--it don't work unless you've already tried on the pairs in a store</em> Er, what? There's an amazing invention called the "shoe size". For example, I'm a 10.5 normal width and have never found a shoe of that size to not fit me. try shoe shopping online–it don’t work unless you’ve already tried on the pairs in a store

Er, what? There’s an amazing invention called the “shoe size”. For example, I’m a 10.5 normal width and have never found a shoe of that size to not fit me.

]]> By: Steve Miller http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617856 Steve Miller Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617856 What do Walmarts get torn down for? What do Walmarts get torn down for?

]]> By: MonkeyBoy http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617853 MonkeyBoy Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617853 Do you just mean "indoor" mall? Unless you live in a high density area such as NYC where most customers don't drive then you probably visit "strip malls" all the time. Often a city consumer business area, while it may look like just a bunch of stores lining a street, is actually a strip mall in disguise. Rather than having the shared parking lot in front of the stores it is behind them. Do you just mean “indoor” mall? Unless you live in a high density area such as NYC where most customers don’t drive then you probably visit “strip malls” all the time.

Often a city consumer business area, while it may look like just a bunch of stores lining a street, is actually a strip mall in disguise. Rather than having the shared parking lot in front of the stores it is behind them.

]]> By: smallteam http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617845 smallteam Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617845 DC, Baltimore, and the space in between has plenty of abandoned or failing shopping malls.  There is one that still seems to be doing quite well, and still has the power to give me sensory overload migraines -- Arundel Mills, near BWI airport.  Less than fifteen years ago, it was all undeveloped forestland. The mall itself is a covered outlet-store mall, surrounded by detached big-box stores (including but not limited to Walmart and Costco). Across the street are a series of strip malls, and in between loads of smaller detached restaurants and retail spots. And now, if that wasn't enough to get you to never shop again, it's got an on-site casino! Until recently it was slots-only, but this year in Maryland elections brought not only marriage equality but table games (e.g., roulette, card games) as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arundel_Mills#Surrounding_Area DC, Baltimore, and the space in between has plenty of abandoned or failing shopping malls.  There is one that still seems to be doing quite well, and still has the power to give me sensory overload migraines — Arundel Mills, near BWI airport.  Less than fifteen years ago, it was all undeveloped forestland. The mall itself is a covered outlet-store mall, surrounded by detached big-box stores (including but not limited to Walmart and Costco). Across the street are a series of strip malls, and in between loads of smaller detached restaurants and retail spots. And now, if that wasn’t enough to get you to never shop again, it’s got an on-site casino! Until recently it was slots-only, but this year in Maryland elections brought not only marriage equality but table games (e.g., roulette, card games) as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arundel_Mills#Surrounding_Area

]]> By: Dave Nullstein http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617843 Dave Nullstein Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617843 Good riddance.  I haven't been to a mall in 5 years and will actively avoid doing so in the future. Good riddance.  I haven’t been to a mall in 5 years and will actively avoid doing so in the future.

]]> By: Robert Landrigan http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617840 Robert Landrigan Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617840 A - Why is Amazon constantly treated as a good thing, when they're as bad or worse than WalMart for both their employees and local biz? And online shoe and clothes shopping are crazy making - and looking at the return rate, not very friendly environmentally, either. B - Malls aren't all bad. The new Lifestyle centers have fresh air, maybe, but other than that, they push folks to drive more, not less. The whole point of the outside facing entrances is to let folks drive to each store, then run away. At least in the classic 80's mall experience you drove, got out, walked around most of the day and then went home. More opportunity to see unexpected things, and yes, buy unplanned items. And on a rainy/crappy day, I like not being soggy. Malls have a lot of issues, yes, but I'd much rather see a thriving one than an empty wasteland - no one, other than the demolition company, profits from a mall shutting down. A – Why is Amazon constantly treated as a good thing, when they’re as bad or worse than WalMart for both their employees and local biz? And online shoe and clothes shopping are crazy making – and looking at the return rate, not very friendly environmentally, either.
B – Malls aren’t all bad. The new Lifestyle centers have fresh air, maybe, but other than that, they push folks to drive more, not less. The whole point of the outside facing entrances is to let folks drive to each store, then run away. At least in the classic 80′s mall experience you drove, got out, walked around most of the day and then went home. More opportunity to see unexpected things, and yes, buy unplanned items. And on a rainy/crappy day, I like not being soggy. Malls have a lot of issues, yes, but I’d much rather see a thriving one than an empty wasteland – no one, other than the demolition company, profits from a mall shutting down.

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617833 millie fink Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617833 Don't forget fracking. Don’t forget fracking.

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617832 millie fink Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617832 Why did you leave out abusive labor practices? Why did you leave out abusive labor practices?

]]> By: dorkhero http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617825 dorkhero Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617825 Dead malls can be revitalized. For example, here in San Antonio one of our long term dead malls, Winsor Park, was purchased by Rackspace to serve as their corporate headquarters. Winsor Park was also used as an emergency shelter for victims of hurricanes Katrina and Rita. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Park_Mall http://grahamweston.com/the-castle/rackspace-tears-into-new-headquarters-fastcompanytv/ http://deadmalls.com/malls/windsor_park_mall.html Dead malls can be revitalized. For example, here in San Antonio one of our long term dead malls, Winsor Park, was purchased by Rackspace to serve as their corporate headquarters. Winsor Park was also used as an emergency shelter for victims of hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Park_Mall http://grahamweston.com/the-castle/rackspace-tears-into-new-headquarters-fastcompanytv/ http://deadmalls.com/malls/windsor_park_mall.html

]]> By: Over the River http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617824 Over the River Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617824 I don't have a home in Washington, DC. I live in Northern Virginia and have homes elsewhere. I don’t have a home in Washington, DC. I live in Northern Virginia and have homes elsewhere.

]]> By: Cullan Hudson http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617820 Cullan Hudson Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617820 I've seen a trend of returning to "shopping centers" so that the whole cost issue with heating and cooling is abandoned. But instead of looking like bland mid-century strip malls, they're simply open air Gallerias: take the roof off the mall. There's one not far from me that is rather nice, incorporating fountains kids play in during the summer and public spaces. And online isn't quite the death of brick and mortar. Many people still don't trust the lack of security involved with Internet transactions. Others prefer to browse in person without having to guess about a product (try shoe shopping online--it don't work unless you've already tried on the pairs in a store). Moreover, I can go to my mall in 15 minutes instead of waiting at least a day to receive an order online. And as online transactions continually become taxed, you begin paying more because of tax, shipping & handling, and prices that (IMHO) aren't as spectacular as Internet myth would have you believe.  I’ve seen a trend of returning to “shopping centers” so that the whole cost issue with heating and cooling is abandoned. But instead of looking like bland mid-century strip malls, they’re simply open air Gallerias: take the roof off the mall. There’s one not far from me that is rather nice, incorporating fountains kids play in during the summer and public spaces. And online isn’t quite the death of brick and mortar. Many people still don’t trust the lack of security involved with Internet transactions. Others prefer to browse in person without having to guess about a product (try shoe shopping online–it don’t work unless you’ve already tried on the pairs in a store). Moreover, I can go to my mall in 15 minutes instead of waiting at least a day to receive an order online. And as online transactions continually become taxed, you begin paying more because of tax, shipping & handling, and prices that (IMHO) aren’t as spectacular as Internet myth would have you believe. 

]]> By: Daemonworks http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617809 Daemonworks Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617809 I wouldn't mind in the slightest. I find walking around in a mall to be intensely aggravating, and there's very little in them I can't get elsewhere for less. I wouldn’t mind in the slightest. I find walking around in a mall to be intensely aggravating, and there’s very little in them I can’t get elsewhere for less.

]]> By: kringlebertfistyebuns http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617797 kringlebertfistyebuns Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617797 If you pay $115,000 a year in RE taxes, at the DC city levy of $0.85/$100 of value... that's... hmmm... That's...like, $13.5M assessed value, or about an $18-20,000,000 market value.  Basically the very top of the DC real estate market.   So...either you're fabulously wealthy, or you own and pay taxes on an entire condo/co-op building, or there's something I don't know about DC real estate taxation...or, you're bullshitting.Also: Jesus, DC's property tax levy is low.  Mine is $2.15/$100.   If you pay $115,000 a year in RE taxes, at the DC city levy of $0.85/$100 of value… that’s… hmmm…

That’s…like, $13.5M assessed value, or about an $18-20,000,000 market value.  Basically the very top of the DC real estate market.  

So…either you’re fabulously wealthy, or you own and pay taxes on an entire condo/co-op building, or there’s something I don’t know about DC real estate taxation…or, you’re bullshitting.Also: Jesus, DC’s property tax levy is low.  Mine is $2.15/$100.  

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617796 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617796 <blockquote>Malls have always been THE symbol of narcissistic American over-abundance and self-reflective importance</blockquote><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoa" rel="nofollow">o rly?</a>

Malls have always been THE symbol of narcissistic American over-abundance and self-reflective importance

o rly?

]]> By: aperturehead http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617782 aperturehead Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617782 Malls have always been THE symbol of narcissistic American over-abundance and self-reflective importance - there no sadness at their demise in these parts. Malls have always been THE symbol of narcissistic American over-abundance and self-reflective importance – there no sadness at their demise in these parts.

]]> By: aperturehead http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617781 aperturehead Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617781 I'm imagining herds of mall walkers, standing firm against the wrecking ball - afraid to venture, afraid to walk...on real sidewalks, past real trees, under real clouds. I’m imagining herds of mall walkers, standing firm against the wrecking ball – afraid to venture, afraid to walk…on real sidewalks, past real trees, under real clouds.

]]> By: Preston Sturges http://boingboing.net/2012/12/30/malls-are-dying.html#comment-1617778 Preston Sturges Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=203201#comment-1617778 I glanced at a few things on alibaba.com and my LinkedIn account immediately got browsed by several people on the Chinese mainland.    It seems like the Chinese are doing some pretty massive data mining on US consumers.  They managed to connect my name (which I did not give), my internet address, and my LinkedIn account. I glanced at a few things on alibaba.com and my LinkedIn account immediately got browsed by several people on the Chinese mainland.   
It seems like the Chinese are doing some pretty massive data mining on US consumers.  They managed to connect my name (which I did not give), my internet address, and my LinkedIn account.

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