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		<title>By: Fj Flynn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1621130</link>
		<dc:creator>Fj Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will be a great way to help me explain to patients (as I do everyday) the difference between association and causation.  </description>
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		<title>By: Sue Belzer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620245</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Belzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now here&#039;s something interesting I found (I&#039;ll quote two paragraphs that seemed particularly salient):

In epidemiological research Wing (1981) found that among people with high-functioning autism or Asperger syndrome there were as many as fifteen times as many males as females. On the other hand, when she looked at people with learning difficulties as well as autism the ratio of boys to girls was closer to 2:1. This would suggest that, while females are less likely to develop autism, when they do they are more severely impaired.

Attwood (2000), Ehlers and Gillberg (1993) and Wing (1981) have all speculated that many girls with Asperger syndrome are never referred for diagnosis, and so are simply missing from statistics. This might be because the diagnostic criteria for Asperger syndrome are based on the behavioural characteristics of boys, who are often more noticeably &quot;different&quot; or disruptive than girls with the same underlying deficits. Girls with Asperger syndrome may be better at masking their difficulties in order to fit in with their peers, and in general have a more even profile of social skills.

So, as usual, it&#039;s &quot;not quite that simple,&quot; apparently. Here&#039;s the link to that page:

http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/autism-and-asperger-syndrome-an-introduction/gender-and-autism/autism-why-do-more-boys-than-girls-develop-it.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now here&#8217;s something interesting I found (I&#8217;ll quote two paragraphs that seemed particularly salient):</p>
<p>In epidemiological research Wing (1981) found that among people with high-functioning autism or Asperger syndrome there were as many as fifteen times as many males as females. On the other hand, when she looked at people with learning difficulties as well as autism the ratio of boys to girls was closer to 2:1. This would suggest that, while females are less likely to develop autism, when they do they are more severely impaired.</p>
<p>Attwood (2000), Ehlers and Gillberg (1993) and Wing (1981) have all speculated that many girls with Asperger syndrome are never referred for diagnosis, and so are simply missing from statistics. This might be because the diagnostic criteria for Asperger syndrome are based on the behavioural characteristics of boys, who are often more noticeably &#8220;different&#8221; or disruptive than girls with the same underlying deficits. Girls with Asperger syndrome may be better at masking their difficulties in order to fit in with their peers, and in general have a more even profile of social skills.</p>
<p>So, as usual, it&#8217;s &#8220;not quite that simple,&#8221; apparently. Here&#8217;s the link to that page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/autism-and-asperger-syndrome-an-introduction/gender-and-autism/autism-why-do-more-boys-than-girls-develop-it.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/autism-and-asperger-syndrome-an-introduction/gender-and-autism/autism-why-do-more-boys-than-girls-develop-it.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: AutismNewsBeat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620241</link>
		<dc:creator>AutismNewsBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Autism is diagnosed about 4.5 times more often in boys than in girls.</description>
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		<title>By: AutismNewsBeat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620240</link>
		<dc:creator>AutismNewsBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Boris is conflating mortality with morbidity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Boris is conflating mortality with morbidity. </p>
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		<title>By: AutismNewsBeat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620237</link>
		<dc:creator>AutismNewsBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Bingo, Zero! There is little if any evidence for a real increase in autism. The increase is in diagnoses, which is related to several known factors, including better ascertainment, broader diagnostic criteria, increased social awareness, and increase in services. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Bingo, Zero! There is little if any evidence for a real increase in autism. The increase is in diagnoses, which is related to several known factors, including better ascertainment, broader diagnostic criteria, increased social awareness, and increase in services. </p>
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		<title>By: agileprovocateur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620236</link>
		<dc:creator>agileprovocateur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> i apologize , obviously saving 200 a year from polio outweighs the lives of 27,000  children who&quot;are dieing every day of cheaply curable illnesses lol ok fine sir  ,The number a people who get polio is just a few hundred each year , its not Ebola k ,  was just a simple question i researched and got a eye opener when i seen the numbers  i did provide a link right  , my bad for expecting intelligence here i guess .
 Now i just happen to be fascinated that everyone here demonizing me as   anti vaccines, when my numbers are stupidly easy to find  ,   you should have another look  , Take care k </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> i apologize , obviously saving 200 a year from polio outweighs the lives of 27,000  children who&#8221;are dieing every day of cheaply curable illnesses lol ok fine sir  ,The number a people who get polio is just a few hundred each year , its not Ebola k ,  was just a simple question i researched and got a eye opener when i seen the numbers  i did provide a link right  , my bad for expecting intelligence here i guess .<br />
 Now i just happen to be fascinated that everyone here demonizing me as   anti vaccines, when my numbers are stupidly easy to find  ,   you should have another look  , Take care k </p>
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		<title>By: AutismNewsBeat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620230</link>
		<dc:creator>AutismNewsBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The data are random.</description>
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		<title>By: Kratoklastes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620032</link>
		<dc:creator>Kratoklastes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Steady on, me hearty... it&#039;s all well and good to point out the pitfalls of spurious correlation, but let&#039;s not drift into &lt;b&gt;pirate-climatecaust denial&lt;/b&gt; (aka &lt;b&gt;piratical revisionism&lt;/b&gt;).

That sort of &lt;b&gt;anti-Piratism&lt;/b&gt; should be a thing of the dim and unenlightened past: the link between the near-extinction of pirates and the rise in global temperatures is a thing that transcends statistical analysis.

One need only look at what has happened since our brave pirate brethren in Somalia began their careers as modenr privateers: &lt;b&gt;global warming stopped&lt;/b&gt; (about 15 years ago), thus enabling us to rejoice at the failure of the 2000 prediction (by David Viner of CRU) that &quot;Children just aren&#039;t going to know what snow is&quot; (implying a &lt;b&gt;global&lt;/b&gt; absence of snow... and probably of pirates too). That statement was reported in the Independent of March 20th 2000.

Thankfully, UK kiddies have been enjoying abundant snow thanks to the unsung efforts of our Somali chums.

&lt;b&gt;TL;DR: climate models are statistically less robust - and follow more of a &quot;do what&#039;s required to get the answer we want&quot; paradigm - than any economic model of which I am aware. Aaargh, me hearties.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Steady on, me hearty&#8230; it&#8217;s all well and good to point out the pitfalls of spurious correlation, but let&#8217;s not drift into <b>pirate-climatecaust denial</b> (aka <b>piratical revisionism</b>).</p>
<p>That sort of <b>anti-Piratism</b> should be a thing of the dim and unenlightened past: the link between the near-extinction of pirates and the rise in global temperatures is a thing that transcends statistical analysis.</p>
<p>One need only look at what has happened since our brave pirate brethren in Somalia began their careers as modenr privateers: <b>global warming stopped</b> (about 15 years ago), thus enabling us to rejoice at the failure of the 2000 prediction (by David Viner of CRU) that &#8220;Children just aren&#8217;t going to know what snow is&#8221; (implying a <b>global</b> absence of snow&#8230; and probably of pirates too). That statement was reported in the Independent of March 20th 2000.</p>
<p>Thankfully, UK kiddies have been enjoying abundant snow thanks to the unsung efforts of our Somali chums.</p>
<p><b>TL;DR: climate models are statistically less robust &#8211; and follow more of a &#8220;do what&#8217;s required to get the answer we want&#8221; paradigm &#8211; than any economic model of which I am aware. Aaargh, me hearties.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Kratoklastes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1620014</link>
		<dc:creator>Kratoklastes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> What you&#039;re sneaking up on is the problem of &lt;b&gt;spurious correlation&lt;/b&gt; when data are not &lt;b&gt;stationary&lt;/b&gt;: that is, when data are &lt;b&gt;integrated&lt;/b&gt; of order &gt; 0 (meaning that they have a non-stable mean in sub-samples).

Generally, a phenomenon related to population will, in equilbrium, grow broadly in line with population. (e.g., long-run behaviour of the labour force). Things that grow in line with aggregate expenditure will - again, as a measure of tendency rather than in every observation - grow at &quot;m-n-beta&quot; (the rate of growth of the money supply, less population growth, less technological change). which is the theoretical equilibrium rate of growth of nominal quantities.

If you have two quantities that are both growing exponentially (even at divergent rates), you will &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; find an affine transformation of one quantity that will generate a large correlation coefficient (and therefore a relatively large coefficient of determination). 

If the two series are growing linearly, the transformation is trivial (multiply either series by the ratio of the slopes) and the coefficient of determination will approach unity... it won&#039;t actually BE 1 unless both series exhibit (a) zero; or (b) perfectly correlated; noise around their respective linear growth paths.

This is why trained statisticians (and econometricians - of which I am one) &lt;b&gt;test data for stationarity&lt;/b&gt;, make sure that regressors are of the &lt;b&gt;same order of integration as the dependent variable&lt;/b&gt; (so that the regression has a &lt;b&gt;stable steady state&lt;/b&gt;), and if required take &lt;b&gt;differences&lt;/b&gt; (or even &lt;b&gt;log differences&lt;/b&gt;) of data to reduce the regression to one involving only stationary quantities.

&lt;b&gt;TL;DR: statistics is sufficiently complex that a layman or autodidact is likely to get it wrong in ways that aren&#039;t amusing to anybody who finished high school with decent marks in maths.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> What you&#8217;re sneaking up on is the problem of <b>spurious correlation</b> when data are not <b>stationary</b>: that is, when data are <b>integrated</b> of order &gt; 0 (meaning that they have a non-stable mean in sub-samples).</p>
<p>Generally, a phenomenon related to population will, in equilbrium, grow broadly in line with population. (e.g., long-run behaviour of the labour force). Things that grow in line with aggregate expenditure will &#8211; again, as a measure of tendency rather than in every observation &#8211; grow at &#8220;m-n-beta&#8221; (the rate of growth of the money supply, less population growth, less technological change). which is the theoretical equilibrium rate of growth of nominal quantities.</p>
<p>If you have two quantities that are both growing exponentially (even at divergent rates), you will <b>always</b> find an affine transformation of one quantity that will generate a large correlation coefficient (and therefore a relatively large coefficient of determination). </p>
<p>If the two series are growing linearly, the transformation is trivial (multiply either series by the ratio of the slopes) and the coefficient of determination will approach unity&#8230; it won&#8217;t actually BE 1 unless both series exhibit (a) zero; or (b) perfectly correlated; noise around their respective linear growth paths.</p>
<p>This is why trained statisticians (and econometricians &#8211; of which I am one) <b>test data for stationarity</b>, make sure that regressors are of the <b>same order of integration as the dependent variable</b> (so that the regression has a <b>stable steady state</b>), and if required take <b>differences</b> (or even <b>log differences</b>) of data to reduce the regression to one involving only stationary quantities.</p>
<p><b>TL;DR: statistics is sufficiently complex that a layman or autodidact is likely to get it wrong in ways that aren&#8217;t amusing to anybody who finished high school with decent marks in maths.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Pierce Nichols</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619982</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierce Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the real world, actual doctors have determined that the symptoms of autism can be detected as early as six weeks of age. So no, your personal hobbyhorse has nothing at all to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the real world, actual doctors have determined that the symptoms of autism can be detected as early as six weeks of age. So no, your personal hobbyhorse has nothing at all to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierce Nichols</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619979</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierce Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris,

Is your argument based merely on profound ignorance, or is it the bad faith indicated by your link to whale.to? For example, someone that knew what they were talking about would be aware that the introduction of antibiotics effective against tuberculosis in the early 50s drastically reduced death rates from that disease. Likewise, the availability of effective antibiotics and improved supportive care reduced the death rates from diseases like pertussis and measles without having much of any effect on their incidence. Plenty of children who would have died in earlier years ended up permanently disabled instead (one of my great-aunts among them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris,</p>
<p>Is your argument based merely on profound ignorance, or is it the bad faith indicated by your link to whale.to? For example, someone that knew what they were talking about would be aware that the introduction of antibiotics effective against tuberculosis in the early 50s drastically reduced death rates from that disease. Likewise, the availability of effective antibiotics and improved supportive care reduced the death rates from diseases like pertussis and measles without having much of any effect on their incidence. Plenty of children who would have died in earlier years ended up permanently disabled instead (one of my great-aunts among them).</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Belzer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619827</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Belzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gt you is my hero</description>
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		<title>By: Kratoklastes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619822</link>
		<dc:creator>Kratoklastes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh... come on Cory - even Americans don&#039;t try to regress non-stationary variables against one another, surely? 

OLS is efficient and consistent (and hence unbiased - hence BLUE) only when the Gauss-Markov conditions hold, and they will NEVER hold for anything growing geometrically... at the very least there is a problem with autocorrelation, and almost certainly heteroscedasticity. 

And as we all know, the coefficient of determination (R^2) is the square of the Pearson correlation coefficient - whichin turn  is cov(x,y)/var(x).var(y) (&lt;b&gt;why can&#039;t we do LaTeX up in this bitch, yo?&lt;/b&gt;); using R^2 as a goodness of fit measure &lt;b&gt;assumes&lt;/b&gt; that OLS is BLUE for the problem under consideration.

It is highly unlikely that two I(1) or I(2) series will have stable variances.

Model that shit with ARIMA and the correlation will disappear, I bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh&#8230; come on Cory &#8211; even Americans don&#8217;t try to regress non-stationary variables against one another, surely? </p>
<p>OLS is efficient and consistent (and hence unbiased &#8211; hence BLUE) only when the Gauss-Markov conditions hold, and they will NEVER hold for anything growing geometrically&#8230; at the very least there is a problem with autocorrelation, and almost certainly heteroscedasticity. </p>
<p>And as we all know, the coefficient of determination (R^2) is the square of the Pearson correlation coefficient &#8211; whichin turn  is cov(x,y)/var(x).var(y) (<b>why can&#8217;t we do LaTeX up in this bitch, yo?</b>); using R^2 as a goodness of fit measure <b>assumes</b> that OLS is BLUE for the problem under consideration.</p>
<p>It is highly unlikely that two I(1) or I(2) series will have stable variances.</p>
<p>Model that shit with ARIMA and the correlation will disappear, I bet.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ferguson @kWIQly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619648</link>
		<dc:creator>James Ferguson @kWIQly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron - 
People who do not eat and people who are dead correlate very strongly.  And there is causality. 

People who are dead do not eat and make no choice.

People who choose not to eat are alive.

It does appear that the act of choosing keeps us alive Or.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron &#8211;<br />
People who do not eat and people who are dead correlate very strongly.  And there is causality. </p>
<p>People who are dead do not eat and make no choice.</p>
<p>People who choose not to eat are alive.</p>
<p>It does appear that the act of choosing keeps us alive Or&#8230;. :)</p>
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		<title>By: ByondPolitics</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619644</link>
		<dc:creator>ByondPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No correlation between X &amp; autism&quot; : that was the point. It&#039;s a perfectly common rhetorical device. You might want to read about analogies, straw men &amp; reductio ad absurdum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No correlation between X &amp; autism&#8221; : that was the point. It&#8217;s a perfectly common rhetorical device. You might want to read about analogies, straw men &amp; reductio ad absurdum.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Beer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619559</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Beer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is: Why do people with autism like organic food so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is: Why do people with autism like organic food so much?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Davies</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619518</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Wait. Are you saying that vaccinations are a plot by the organic food industry to create more autistic organic food buying customers? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Wait. Are you saying that vaccinations are a plot by the organic food industry to create more autistic organic food buying customers? </p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619455</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, I&#039;m just trying to say it&#039;s not actually a negative graph as it was meant to be.  Yes, autism is much more prevalent in males...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m just trying to say it&#8217;s not actually a negative graph as it was meant to be.  Yes, autism is much more prevalent in males&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: Sue Belzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Belzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never had a dog that wouldn&#039;t eagerly lap up milk.</description>
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		<title>By: Sue Belzer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619404</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Belzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it can be said that &quot;the graph shows&quot; that. That&#039;s the point of this article, isn&#039;t it? And I was unaware that autism is &quot;gender lopsided&quot;. (off to do a little research on that...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it can be said that &#8220;the graph shows&#8221; that. That&#8217;s the point of this article, isn&#8217;t it? And I was unaware that autism is &#8220;gender lopsided&#8221;. (off to do a little research on that&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: James MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619403</link>
		<dc:creator>James MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My cat is fond of the occasional tipple.  Then again, she was eating chicken necks yesterday.  No concept of risk you see.  Maybe she&#039;s autistic? After all, she doesn&#039;t like hugs and is totally self-centred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My cat is fond of the occasional tipple.  Then again, she was eating chicken necks yesterday.  No concept of risk you see.  Maybe she&#8217;s autistic? After all, she doesn&#8217;t like hugs and is totally self-centred.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619384</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graph shows that the more autism is prevalent and diagnosed, people reach for petrochemical free foods.  As for vaccinations, I&#039;ve always wondered why the incidence of Autism is so gender lopsided since both genders equally receive the same vaccinations.... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graph shows that the more autism is prevalent and diagnosed, people reach for petrochemical free foods.  As for vaccinations, I&#8217;ve always wondered why the incidence of Autism is so gender lopsided since both genders equally receive the same vaccinations&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Damian O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619315</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting debate. Of course there would be a million datasets similar to above, which is an exponential that sees the y-axis quadruple after about 10 observations - either curve is the (1+p/100)^n variety (where p is a compound percentage - around 15% i reckon. So anything that has grown at a compound rate of about 15% over 10 years will have a curve like this. There may be a connection but on random datasets, of which there would be many of this type, the starting point, without a hypothesis, is coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting debate. Of course there would be a million datasets similar to above, which is an exponential that sees the y-axis quadruple after about 10 observations &#8211; either curve is the (1+p/100)^n variety (where p is a compound percentage &#8211; around 15% i reckon. So anything that has grown at a compound rate of about 15% over 10 years will have a curve like this. There may be a connection but on random datasets, of which there would be many of this type, the starting point, without a hypothesis, is coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOven</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619228</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice troll hat. </description>
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		<title>By: TheOven</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619208</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true. Name another mammal that drinks milk into adulthood - let alone another animal&#039;s milk. Total addition. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true. Name another mammal that drinks milk into adulthood &#8211; let alone another animal&#8217;s milk. Total addition. </p>
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		<title>By: TheOven</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619207</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple is awesome, we love her.</description>
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		<title>By: James Kimbell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619174</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kimbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you meet someone, you start a running estimation of their reasonableness, and it goes up and down with each new piece of evidence. They repeat bunkum? Not a good sign. They learn something new and change their mind? Great sign.

I like starting that estimation pretty high, even though it&#039;s wrong most of the time, just because I think it stops me from underestimating people and missing opportunities. And it helps me keep a better attitude. But I know what you mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you meet someone, you start a running estimation of their reasonableness, and it goes up and down with each new piece of evidence. They repeat bunkum? Not a good sign. They learn something new and change their mind? Great sign.</p>
<p>I like starting that estimation pretty high, even though it&#8217;s wrong most of the time, just because I think it stops me from underestimating people and missing opportunities. And it helps me keep a better attitude. But I know what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: LintMan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619053</link>
		<dc:creator>LintMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is saying organic food is bad.  The point here is that correlation does not equal causation.  

Sometimes people produce trend charts like this with closely matched lines, and then point to the correlation and blame one of the trends for the other.  Such as the autism/vaccination correlation mentioned above.  Or the &quot;violence in schools/video game sales&quot; correlation that is currently all the rage.  Just because two trends have similar curves doesn&#039;t mean one is causing the other.

See also this chart implying that global warming is caused by a lack of pirates:  http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is saying organic food is bad.  The point here is that correlation does not equal causation.  </p>
<p>Sometimes people produce trend charts like this with closely matched lines, and then point to the correlation and blame one of the trends for the other.  Such as the autism/vaccination correlation mentioned above.  Or the &#8220;violence in schools/video game sales&#8221; correlation that is currently all the rage.  Just because two trends have similar curves doesn&#8217;t mean one is causing the other.</p>
<p>See also this chart implying that global warming is caused by a lack of pirates:  <a href="http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/" rel="nofollow">http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig A. Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619028</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig A. Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t see the point in this at all. Organic food and autism? If anything, organic food improves neurological function. </description>
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		<title>By: LintMan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html#comment-1619016</link>
		<dc:creator>LintMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there probably is some correlation between Autism an dorganic food sales.  There&#039;s a true-story book and TV movie called &quot;Son Rise&quot; about a family with a seemingly-autistic son who, IIRC, dramatically changed their diet and lifestyles (ie: natural, organic foods only, no tv, etc) and saw their son go from &quot;unreachable&quot; to &quot;normal&quot; (again, IIRC).

Today&#039;s science doesn&#039;t really blame things like food additives for autism, but when you&#039;re a parent of an autistic child and searching for answers, it&#039;s certainly one more thing to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there probably is some correlation between Autism an dorganic food sales.  There&#8217;s a true-story book and TV movie called &#8220;Son Rise&#8221; about a family with a seemingly-autistic son who, IIRC, dramatically changed their diet and lifestyles (ie: natural, organic foods only, no tv, etc) and saw their son go from &#8220;unreachable&#8221; to &#8220;normal&#8221; (again, IIRC).</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s science doesn&#8217;t really blame things like food additives for autism, but when you&#8217;re a parent of an autistic child and searching for answers, it&#8217;s certainly one more thing to try.</p>
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