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	<title>Comments on: Commemorative coins are sneaky&#160;pork</title>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1622132</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This pork goes nicely with sporks... I mean, sports...

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/30/dave_zirin_on_bad_sports_how

FTA:

&lt;b&gt;DM&lt;/b&gt;: What are some of these other owners that are in your greatest hits of rogues?

&lt;b&gt;DAVE ZIRIN&lt;/b&gt;: ... The owner of the Orlando Magic is a gentleman by the name of Dick DeVos. He’s worth $4 billion ... The DeVos family, not unlike old feudal Europe, married into another billionaire family, the Prince family.

And Dick DeVos’s son married a gentleman by the name of Edgar Prince’s daughter Betsy. Betsy’s brother -— we see where this is going — Erik Prince, the owner and founder of &lt;i&gt;Blackwater&lt;/i&gt;.

Dick DeVos is also one of the ultimate funders and underwriters of that right-wing edge of the evangelical movement and of the Republican Party. And he’s also getting a $480 million publicly funded stadium right now.

And through his donations to the Republican Party, of course, Erik Prince has gotten hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts for &lt;i&gt;Blackwater&lt;/i&gt;.

So you see how this works. I mean, I don’t think a majority of sports fans, when they go see an Orlando Magic game and cheer for players like Dwight Howard or Jameer Nelson, are saying, &quot;I’m also buying a ticket to support &lt;i&gt;Blackwater’s&lt;/i&gt; efforts in Iraq!&quot; No, that — and effectively, though, that’s what they have us doing. It’s coercive, and I’m against it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This pork goes nicely with sporks&#8230; I mean, sports&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/30/dave_zirin_on_bad_sports_how" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/30/dave_zirin_on_bad_sports_how</a></p>
<p>FTA:</p>
<p><b>DM</b>: What are some of these other owners that are in your greatest hits of rogues?</p>
<p><b>DAVE ZIRIN</b>: &#8230; The owner of the Orlando Magic is a gentleman by the name of Dick DeVos. He’s worth $4 billion &#8230; The DeVos family, not unlike old feudal Europe, married into another billionaire family, the Prince family.</p>
<p>And Dick DeVos’s son married a gentleman by the name of Edgar Prince’s daughter Betsy. Betsy’s brother -— we see where this is going — Erik Prince, the owner and founder of <i>Blackwater</i>.</p>
<p>Dick DeVos is also one of the ultimate funders and underwriters of that right-wing edge of the evangelical movement and of the Republican Party. And he’s also getting a $480 million publicly funded stadium right now.</p>
<p>And through his donations to the Republican Party, of course, Erik Prince has gotten hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts for <i>Blackwater</i>.</p>
<p>So you see how this works. I mean, I don’t think a majority of sports fans, when they go see an Orlando Magic game and cheer for players like Dwight Howard or Jameer Nelson, are saying, &#8220;I’m also buying a ticket to support <i>Blackwater’s</i> efforts in Iraq!&#8221; No, that — and effectively, though, that’s what they have us doing. It’s coercive, and I’m against it. </p>
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		<title>By: David Schumm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621926</link>
		<dc:creator>David Schumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for reference the Lions Club is the largest service organization in the world(by number of members). It has members in virtually every county in every state as well as every country in the world. You may not agree with its message(it is apolitical, nonreligious, helps the blind, the hungry, and illiterate children), but it is not some local pork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for reference the Lions Club is the largest service organization in the world(by number of members). It has members in virtually every county in every state as well as every country in the world. You may not agree with its message(it is apolitical, nonreligious, helps the blind, the hungry, and illiterate children), but it is not some local pork.</p>
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		<title>By: B E Pratt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621751</link>
		<dc:creator>B E Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I hope you mean a proof set. A mint set sounds like an uncirculated set. Proof sets are awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I hope you mean a proof set. A mint set sounds like an uncirculated set. Proof sets are awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: B E Pratt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B E Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is sort of a ban on earmarks and apparently all it has accomplished is to get Congress to do work arounds that make earmarks look just peachy fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is sort of a ban on earmarks and apparently all it has accomplished is to get Congress to do work arounds that make earmarks look just peachy fine.</p>
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		<title>By: B E Pratt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621745</link>
		<dc:creator>B E Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Sure commemorative coins are worthless (more or less), but as someone who took great joy in collecting coins as a kid (back when looking through your change could actually turn up valuable stuff), I just can&#039;t bring myself to wish to ban any form of coin whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Sure commemorative coins are worthless (more or less), but as someone who took great joy in collecting coins as a kid (back when looking through your change could actually turn up valuable stuff), I just can&#8217;t bring myself to wish to ban any form of coin whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: jackbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll see your highway example and raise you ATK building the Shuttle SRBs in Utah at Orrin Hatch&#039;s behest, necessitating design compromises and extra expense that allowed them to be shipped cross-country by rail.
Design compromises that contributed materially to the loss of an orbiter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see your highway example and raise you ATK building the Shuttle SRBs in Utah at Orrin Hatch&#8217;s behest, necessitating design compromises and extra expense that allowed them to be shipped cross-country by rail.<br />
Design compromises that contributed materially to the loss of an orbiter.</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if the Government stopped giving hand-outs to every business, agency, foundation, etc using sneaky methods.
If this is such a great idea, why not pass these things in the open and let them live or die?
We avoided the fiscal cliff, but buried in the fineprint is a huge boon to hollywood and television shows.  Allowing them to get federal money for each episode...  Aren&#039;t these the same people running around claiming they are worth billions to the economy, and yet we have to funnel them millions over and over to keep them working?
Something is wrong here, if they are a major driving economic factor we shouldn&#039;t have to  give them hand outs to stay in business.  The millions we are paying to them could be used elsewhere for things much more important, say making sure that everyone in the country has a roof and food everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if the Government stopped giving hand-outs to every business, agency, foundation, etc using sneaky methods.<br />
If this is such a great idea, why not pass these things in the open and let them live or die?<br />
We avoided the fiscal cliff, but buried in the fineprint is a huge boon to hollywood and television shows.  Allowing them to get federal money for each episode&#8230;  Aren&#8217;t these the same people running around claiming they are worth billions to the economy, and yet we have to funnel them millions over and over to keep them working?<br />
Something is wrong here, if they are a major driving economic factor we shouldn&#8217;t have to  give them hand outs to stay in business.  The millions we are paying to them could be used elsewhere for things much more important, say making sure that everyone in the country has a roof and food everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemoutan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621587</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemoutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please accept this like, in recognition of your having achieved the requisite co-likage of 25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please accept this like, in recognition of your having achieved the requisite co-likage of 25.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621549</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More money there than in Beanie Babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More money there than in Beanie Babies.</p>
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		<title>By: social_maladroit</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621520</link>
		<dc:creator>social_maladroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earmark_%28politics%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;According to Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;, the ban on earmarks passed by the House Appropriations Committee in 2010 is on earmarks for for-profit corporations, so this would seem to be a bad example, since the Lions are a non-profit.

Then again, Wikipedia and the New York Times seem to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/us/politics/12lobby.html?_r=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disagree&lt;/a&gt; as to whether the ban applies to just for-profit corporations, or to everyone.

(I wasn&#039;t aware that there was a ban on earmarks in place.)

Edited for clarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earmark_%28politics%29" rel="nofollow">According to Wikipedia</a>, the ban on earmarks passed by the House Appropriations Committee in 2010 is on earmarks for for-profit corporations, so this would seem to be a bad example, since the Lions are a non-profit.</p>
<p>Then again, Wikipedia and the New York Times seem to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/us/politics/12lobby.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">disagree</a> as to whether the ban applies to just for-profit corporations, or to everyone.</p>
<p>(I wasn&#8217;t aware that there was a ban on earmarks in place.)</p>
<p>Edited for clarity.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the summary? You must be new here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the summary? You must be new here!</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621448</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I am shocked and appalled that I am your only like so far, madame/sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I am shocked and appalled that I am your only like so far, madame/sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wile</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621422</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Wile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to get a response from the white house on this - Here is the link to my petition: http://wh.gov/U6p4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to get a response from the white house on this &#8211; Here is the link to my petition: <a href="http://wh.gov/U6p4" rel="nofollow">http://wh.gov/U6p4</a></p>
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		<title>By: millie fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>millie fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there IS value in collecting (and especially in finding) certain especially old stamps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there IS value in collecting (and especially in finding) certain especially old stamps.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  interesting thing is that &quot;pork&quot; generally adds nothing to the Federal budget.  The amount budgeted for highways, for example, does not change, but a Representative might steer some of that money to a stretch of road that needs attention.

When Congress swore off earmarks, all they were doing is giving up the power to direct those monies and giving the power to the Transportation Department - which is the Executive branch - which is run by a scary Kenyan Muslim.

I guess a silver coin with John Birch on it might make up for it, but I can&#039;t imagine it raises a ton of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  interesting thing is that &#8220;pork&#8221; generally adds nothing to the Federal budget.  The amount budgeted for highways, for example, does not change, but a Representative might steer some of that money to a stretch of road that needs attention.</p>
<p>When Congress swore off earmarks, all they were doing is giving up the power to direct those monies and giving the power to the Transportation Department &#8211; which is the Executive branch &#8211; which is run by a scary Kenyan Muslim.</p>
<p>I guess a silver coin with John Birch on it might make up for it, but I can&#8217;t imagine it raises a ton of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you&#039;re not suggesting that there could be anything incorrect in an article from a right-wing, racist, sexist, homophobic propaganda site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you&#8217;re not suggesting that there could be anything incorrect in an article from a right-wing, racist, sexist, homophobic propaganda site.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey Eyed Man of Destiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey Eyed Man of Destiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
And I saw, and behold boingboing linking to the Heritage Foundation:  and he that wrote the blog had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.<br />
And I saw, and behold boingboing linking to the Heritage Foundation:  and he that wrote the blog had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.</p>
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		<title>By: $19428857</title>
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		<dc:creator>$19428857</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no US Government IP rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government

There is no unreimbursed monetary value. All costs of the particular commemorative coin issue are deducted from the sales before any funds are dispersed to the organization benefiting from the coin issue. Furthermore the difference between the face value and the actual cost of producing the actual coin are credited to the U.S. Treasury (not packaging, shipping or marketing which are out of the previously mention reimbursement of costs). This is called seignorage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage So the government sometimes actually makes money, too. The Treasury has made a buttload of money of the State and National Park Quarter series, which are &quot;circulating&quot; commemoratives. But when someone saves a coin and removes it from circulation, it essential provides a profit of the full face value to the government. and billions of those two quarter series have been made and saved by collectors. In the case of gold or silver coins with a nominal value less than the intrinsic value of the precious metals, the Mint gets paid the spot cost of the materials plus all the production costs. 

The U.S Mint has issued commemorative coins that benefit third party organizations since 1892. If Republicans like sponsoring bills to authorize the issuance of these coins, I would imagine it is because it actually cost the the government nothing to do this, rather than being paid for out of taxes. So to them it&#039;s kinda painless. However, as someone who collects coins and who likes good design, most modern US commemorative (post 1982) are fugly, and I rarely buy them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_commemorative_coin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no US Government IP rights. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government</a></p>
<p>There is no unreimbursed monetary value. All costs of the particular commemorative coin issue are deducted from the sales before any funds are dispersed to the organization benefiting from the coin issue. Furthermore the difference between the face value and the actual cost of producing the actual coin are credited to the U.S. Treasury (not packaging, shipping or marketing which are out of the previously mention reimbursement of costs). This is called seignorage. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage</a> So the government sometimes actually makes money, too. The Treasury has made a buttload of money of the State and National Park Quarter series, which are &#8220;circulating&#8221; commemoratives. But when someone saves a coin and removes it from circulation, it essential provides a profit of the full face value to the government. and billions of those two quarter series have been made and saved by collectors. In the case of gold or silver coins with a nominal value less than the intrinsic value of the precious metals, the Mint gets paid the spot cost of the materials plus all the production costs. </p>
<p>The U.S Mint has issued commemorative coins that benefit third party organizations since 1892. If Republicans like sponsoring bills to authorize the issuance of these coins, I would imagine it is because it actually cost the the government nothing to do this, rather than being paid for out of taxes. So to them it&#8217;s kinda painless. However, as someone who collects coins and who likes good design, most modern US commemorative (post 1982) are fugly, and I rarely buy them. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_commemorative_coin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_commemorative_coin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, the first sentence says it is the US mint.  If that wasn&#039;t a tip off, the second sentence talks about congress, which while there is more than one congress in the world, it makes for a pretty short list.  After hitting a few lines about Republicans and Democrats from American states, it probably should have sunk in that this was about the US.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, sometimes it is too easily assumed that people will know that an article is about the US, but this one isn&#039;t one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, the first sentence says it is the US mint.  If that wasn&#8217;t a tip off, the second sentence talks about congress, which while there is more than one congress in the world, it makes for a pretty short list.  After hitting a few lines about Republicans and Democrats from American states, it probably should have sunk in that this was about the US.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, sometimes it is too easily assumed that people will know that an article is about the US, but this one isn&#8217;t one.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemoutan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621348</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemoutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK, us chaps don&#039;t have periods. We have full stops. The gels, tho ,,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK, us chaps don&#8217;t have periods. We have full stops. The gels, tho ,,,</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Pootel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621344</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Pootel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Commemorative coins are sneaky pork&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll come clean with you - I have a tendency to just skim the article titles.  When I&#039;m told I need to get excited about something, generally I don&#039;t.  In the end though it all comes out in the wash so it&#039;s OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Commemorative coins are sneaky pork</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll come clean with you &#8211; I have a tendency to just skim the article titles.  When I&#8217;m told I need to get excited about something, generally I don&#8217;t.  In the end though it all comes out in the wash so it&#8217;s OK.</p>
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		<title>By: euansmith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621343</link>
		<dc:creator>euansmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean that when I bought up the entire production run of the Westboro Baptist Church Commemerative Coins to prevent them spreading their message of hate in to the Numismospher, I was actually giving money to the Topeka Tossers? Noooooooooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean that when I bought up the entire production run of the Westboro Baptist Church Commemerative Coins to prevent them spreading their message of hate in to the Numismospher, I was actually giving money to the Topeka Tossers? Noooooooooo!</p>
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		<title>By: euansmith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621342</link>
		<dc:creator>euansmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the cool kids are using them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the cool kids are using them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621333</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crouching Lions Hidden Pork</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crouching Lions Hidden Pork</p>
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		<title>By: HubrisSonic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621332</link>
		<dc:creator>HubrisSonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmm... sneaky pork </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm&#8230; sneaky pork </p>
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		<title>By: sam1148</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621328</link>
		<dc:creator>sam1148</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My standard gift for someone that&#039;s having baby is a Mint Set of that years coinage from US mint. 
 And a &quot;baby box&quot;. Along with newspapers, magazines of all types in hard copy of the birth month and day (for newspaper).  All in a nice baby box to save things. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My standard gift for someone that&#8217;s having baby is a Mint Set of that years coinage from US mint.<br />
 And a &#8220;baby box&#8221;. Along with newspapers, magazines of all types in hard copy of the birth month and day (for newspaper).  All in a nice baby box to save things. </p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621326</link>
		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean,
&lt;blockquote&gt;You know those cool commemorative coins that the US Mint keeps issuing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While this doesn&#039;t specifically suggest which nationalities should care, it (and the next sentence mentioning Congress) does suggest pretty strongly that we might be talking about the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean,</p>
<blockquote><p>You know those cool commemorative coins that the US Mint keeps issuing?</p></blockquote>
<p>While this doesn&#8217;t specifically suggest which nationalities should care, it (and the next sentence mentioning Congress) does suggest pretty strongly that we might be talking about the US.</p>
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		<title>By: kpelt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621317</link>
		<dc:creator>kpelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the USPS is coming to terms with the fact that there is no value in people actually purchasing stamps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the USPS is coming to terms with the fact that there is no value in people actually purchasing stamps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Pootel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/05/commemorative-coins-are-sneaky.html#comment-1621310</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Pootel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I wish articles were prefaced a bit (in the subject) with the country that is supposed to care.  Cory is very international.  

One has to wonder if it&#039;s Canada, the US or the UK we should get into a lather about today.  Mind you I&#039;m constantly in a lather about other countries so no point in talking about their ridiculous behaviors.

Overall though, Cory is very lather-friendly, so I feel very clean after any visit to BB.

Enough of this soap-box talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I wish articles were prefaced a bit (in the subject) with the country that is supposed to care.  Cory is very international.  </p>
<p>One has to wonder if it&#8217;s Canada, the US or the UK we should get into a lather about today.  Mind you I&#8217;m constantly in a lather about other countries so no point in talking about their ridiculous behaviors.</p>
<p>Overall though, Cory is very lather-friendly, so I feel very clean after any visit to BB.</p>
<p>Enough of this soap-box talk.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an element of direct financial transfer here: 

The feds manufacture the coins at their expense and then attempt to sell them. If the costs are covered, any further income goes to the private entity.

Essentially, that&#039;s an unsecured loan, at 0% interest, of the production costs, with no fixed repayment date(in addition to any more nebulous; but probably not free, value derived from official association with the mint, use of their manufacturing expertise, etc.)

Just try asking your bank to loan you some money to produce widgets, with the promise to repay them with widget sales, and see what sorts of interest rates you are offered, if you can get any takers at all...

It hardly moves the needle in the history of sweetheart giveaways; but it is one, albeit creatively structured to avoid having a dollar value directly attached to it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an element of direct financial transfer here: </p>
<p>The feds manufacture the coins at their expense and then attempt to sell them. If the costs are covered, any further income goes to the private entity.</p>
<p>Essentially, that&#8217;s an unsecured loan, at 0% interest, of the production costs, with no fixed repayment date(in addition to any more nebulous; but probably not free, value derived from official association with the mint, use of their manufacturing expertise, etc.)</p>
<p>Just try asking your bank to loan you some money to produce widgets, with the promise to repay them with widget sales, and see what sorts of interest rates you are offered, if you can get any takers at all&#8230;</p>
<p>It hardly moves the needle in the history of sweetheart giveaways; but it is one, albeit creatively structured to avoid having a dollar value directly attached to it. </p>
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