Comments on: Viewfraud is the new clickfraud http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Tyler Sean Waugh http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1623179 Tyler Sean Waugh Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1623179 The views were removed because the videos were moved to another account. The narrative is wonderful but the truth came out about a week ago. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/28/youtube-video-views-disappear-migrate?INTCMP=SRCH [Thanks to David Wall for the link] When they migrated to VEVO views got a little mixed up and that's been resolved. There's no news here, just an inflated narrative blown out of proportion. The views were removed because the videos were moved to another account.
The narrative is wonderful but the truth came out about a week ago.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/28/youtube-video-views-disappear-migrate?INTCMP=SRCH
[Thanks to David Wall for the link] When they migrated to VEVO views got a little mixed up and that’s been resolved. There’s no news here, just an inflated narrative blown out of proportion.

]]> By: David Wall http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1622396 David Wall Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1622396 You may have read it here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/28/youtube-video-views-disappear-migrate?INTCMP=SRCH  It seems as though the story has already been somewhat debunked You may have read it here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/28/youtube-video-views-disappear-migrate?INTCMP=SRCH 

It seems as though the story has already been somewhat debunked

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1622123 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1622123 The DM is trash, but they also regularly break stories three days ahead of legitimate news sources. If you believe any news source, you've got a gullibility problem. You just have to use different trust filters for different sources. The DM is trash, but they also regularly break stories three days ahead of legitimate news sources. If you believe any news source, you’ve got a gullibility problem. You just have to use different trust filters for different sources.

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1622110 Cowicide Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1622110 <blockquote>Boing Boing want's credibility then they need to stop doing silly things like that. US readers will start thinking the Daily Mail has standards, because they don't.</blockquote>Boing Boing has referred to the Daily Mail as a trash rag many, many times in the past. Via Boing Boing: <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html" rel="nofollow">Precisely why the Daily Mail is irredeemable shit</a> For more: https://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=site%3Aboingboing.net+daily+mail Regular readers know there's no love affair.  ^_^

Boing Boing want’s credibility then they need to stop doing silly things like that. US readers will start thinking the Daily Mail has standards, because they don’t.

Boing Boing has referred to the Daily Mail as a trash rag many, many times in the past.

Via Boing Boing:
Precisely why the Daily Mail is irredeemable shit

For more:
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=site%3Aboingboing.net+daily+mail

Regular readers know there’s no love affair.  ^_^

]]> By: timquinn http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1622103 timquinn Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1622103 "If  Boing Boing want's credibility then . . . " There's your problem, right there. “If  Boing Boing want’s credibility then . . . ”
There’s your problem, right there.

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1622025 Rob Beschizza Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1622025 Keep fuckin' that chicken. Keep fuckin’ that chicken.

]]> By: Dennis Smith http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1621963 Dennis Smith Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1621963 You have a very good point there. You have a very good point there.

]]> By: Tynam http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1621951 Tynam Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1621951 Sadly it <i>doesn't</i> sum up the paper very well; it doesn't begin to convey the true callous, brain-melting evil. Sadly it doesn’t sum up the paper very well; it doesn’t begin to convey the true callous, brain-melting evil.

]]> By: Dennis Smith http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1621922 Dennis Smith Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1621922 There are reputable sources for this news item, but still Boing Boing quotes from the Daily Mail. If  Boing Boing want's credibility then they need to stop doing silly things like that. US readers will start thinking the Daily Mail has standards, because they don't. The Daily Mail still go on about Princess Di, at least once a week, and if it's not that then it's about William and Kate. This about sums up the paper pretty well. There are reputable sources for this news item, but still Boing Boing quotes from the Daily Mail. If  Boing Boing want’s credibility then they need to stop doing silly things like that. US readers will start thinking the Daily Mail has standards, because they don’t. The Daily Mail still go on about Princess Di, at least once a week, and if it’s not that then it’s about William and Kate. This about sums up the paper pretty well.

]]> By: tw1515tw http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1621855 tw1515tw Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1621855 Winston Churchill said a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its trousers on.  I read the record companies moved over their videos to the Vevo channel a few years ago, and YouTube took its time to adjust the numbers to reflect this. Surprised to see myself defending the record companies, but there you go. Winston Churchill said a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its trousers on. 

I read the record companies moved over their videos to the Vevo channel a few years ago, and YouTube took its time to adjust the numbers to reflect this. Surprised to see myself defending the record companies, but there you go.

]]> By: bardfinn http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1621835 bardfinn Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1621835 And yet, for years, continuing unto today, "This content is not available on [your platform|mobile]." — until you change your user agent string, and prestochangeo! Suddenly it is available! Can they claim their right hand was so incompetent that it induced view fraud in order to merely reach their own audience? And yet, for years, continuing unto today, “This content is not available on [your platform|mobile].” — until you change your user agent string, and prestochangeo! Suddenly it is available!
Can they claim their right hand was so incompetent that it induced view fraud in order to merely reach their own audience?

]]> By: machinestate http://boingboing.net/2013/01/07/viewfraud-is-the-new-clickfrau.html#comment-1621803 machinestate Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=204340#comment-1621803 "B-b-b-but-but the recording business model is antiquated, record labels aren't adapting to evolving technologyyyyy" No, the business model is adapting.  The problem is the <b>declining content</b> evidenced by these oh-so-antiquated labels being forced to hire robots and third-world slaves to consume their content <i>for free</i>.  "Oh, oh no, what is to do?" Blame the pirates (read: the people who used to sit in record stores all day, trying before they buy. Bastards!) “B-b-b-but-but the recording business model is antiquated, record labels aren’t adapting to evolving technologyyyyy”

No, the business model is adapting.  The problem is the declining content evidenced by these oh-so-antiquated labels being forced to hire robots and third-world slaves to consume their content for free. 

“Oh, oh no, what is to do?”

Blame the pirates (read: the people who used to sit in record stores all day, trying before they buy. Bastards!)

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