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	<title>Comments on: The trillion dollar coin solution to the debt&#160;ceiling</title>
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		<title>By: the damned fool</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1624570</link>
		<dc:creator>the damned fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lotta reckoning goin&#039; on there.  But not an overabundance.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lotta reckoning goin&#8217; on there.  But not an overabundance.  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sheridan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1624423</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That isn&#039;t necessarily a problem: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046072/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That isn&#8217;t necessarily a problem: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046072/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046072/</a></p>
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		<title>By: EvilTerran</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilTerran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&amp;id=2845#comic </description>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One coin to rule them all... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One coin to rule them all&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Miss Demeanor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Demeanor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;fiat of the government&quot;? No, it would have to be Mini Coopers for the heist to work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;fiat of the government&#8221;? No, it would have to be Mini Coopers for the heist to work</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Demeanor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Demeanor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and if it didn&#039;t fix the whole debt ceiling thing we could strap it to a giant slingshot and use it to deflect in coming asteroids </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and if it didn&#8217;t fix the whole debt ceiling thing we could strap it to a giant slingshot and use it to deflect in coming asteroids </p>
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		<title>By: AbleBakerCharlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbleBakerCharlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true- but moderate inflation can also stimulate growth via the Mundell-Tobin effect, and can improve market efficiency in allocating investment capital, amongst other things. Zero inflation isn&#039;t the right value by nearly every educated reckoning. Right now, the situation is much different than the 1970&#039;s, and the risk of personal-savings-corrupting inflation is way smaller- a larger money supply would do us some good by nearly all reckoning at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true- but moderate inflation can also stimulate growth via the Mundell-Tobin effect, and can improve market efficiency in allocating investment capital, amongst other things. Zero inflation isn&#8217;t the right value by nearly every educated reckoning. Right now, the situation is much different than the 1970&#8242;s, and the risk of personal-savings-corrupting inflation is way smaller- a larger money supply would do us some good by nearly all reckoning at present.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDave</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623308</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walden is a congressman from Oregon. &quot;New York&quot; is the magazine where the article appeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walden is a congressman from Oregon. &#8220;New York&#8221; is the magazine where the article appeared.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Saul</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s completely legal, but more importantly, it&#039;s unnecessary. The 14th Amendment is unambiguous... the &quot;debt ceiling&quot; itself is unconstitutional: Congress already accrued the debt through passing the associated budgets. They cannot disown the obligation to pay those debts without passing a constitutional amendment.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s completely legal, but more importantly, it&#8217;s unnecessary. The 14th Amendment is unambiguous&#8230; the &#8220;debt ceiling&#8221; itself is unconstitutional: Congress already accrued the debt through passing the associated budgets. They cannot disown the obligation to pay those debts without passing a constitutional amendment.</p>
<blockquote><p><b>&#8220;The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.&#8221;</b></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Boundegar meant the one in D.C., not Boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Boundegar meant the one in D.C., not Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: edgore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623214</link>
		<dc:creator>edgore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And since that&#039;s something like 40% of the total amount of extracted platinum in existence, I am going to guess that the invisible hand of the market will make it worth MUCH more than a trillion dollars! PROFIT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And since that&#8217;s something like 40% of the total amount of extracted platinum in existence, I am going to guess that the invisible hand of the market will make it worth MUCH more than a trillion dollars! PROFIT!</p>
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		<title>By: the damned fool</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623190</link>
		<dc:creator>the damned fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not print more money? For one thing: inflation - more dollars chasing fewer goods, causing dollars to be worth less and goods to cost more.   

I&#039;m old enough to recall the Whip Inflation Now campaign, all shiny buttons and rhetoric, meanwhile consumer prices continued to rise closer to 20 percent per year. 
Alan Greenspan as the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors recalled thinking &quot;This is unbelievably stupid&quot; when the Whip Inflation Now campaign was first presented to the (Ford Administration) White House.  

It took until after the Ford administration for politicians to understand (ala Milton Friedman) that to reduce the money supply would help control inflation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not print more money? For one thing: inflation &#8211; more dollars chasing fewer goods, causing dollars to be worth less and goods to cost more.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m old enough to recall the Whip Inflation Now campaign, all shiny buttons and rhetoric, meanwhile consumer prices continued to rise closer to 20 percent per year. <br />
Alan Greenspan as the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors recalled thinking &#8220;This is unbelievably stupid&#8221; when the Whip Inflation Now campaign was first presented to the (Ford Administration) White House.  </p>
<p>It took until after the Ford administration for politicians to understand (ala Milton Friedman) that to reduce the money supply would help control inflation. </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623148</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think that having a partisan who relies on party and corporate funding to get elected would be an improvement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that having a partisan who relies on party and corporate funding to get elected would be an improvement?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it doesn&#039;t have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum or anything like that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;A coin that contained that much platinum would weigh about forty million pounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it doesn&#8217;t have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum or anything like that.</p></blockquote>
<p>A coin that contained that much platinum would weigh about forty million pounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mielke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623125</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Mielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC stolen funds are still taxable income, so the government could take the coin back and STILL stick you with a tax bill for your trillion dollars of ill-gotten gains. 

Hmm...this might be the plan all along...&quot;The Poison Pill Job&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC stolen funds are still taxable income, so the government could take the coin back and STILL stick you with a tax bill for your trillion dollars of ill-gotten gains. </p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;this might be the plan all along&#8230;&#8221;The Poison Pill Job&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mielke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623121</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Mielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Peter below:

You mean &quot;DIE!, Hard Currency&quot; right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Peter below:</p>
<p>You mean &#8220;DIE!, Hard Currency&#8221; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mielke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623120</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Mielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where could you spend it? I can&#039;t get most stores to break a hundred!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where could you spend it? I can&#8217;t get most stores to break a hundred!</p>
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		<title>By: AbleBakerCharlie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/08/the-trillion-dollar-coin-solut.html#comment-1623073</link>
		<dc:creator>AbleBakerCharlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forget the bit where said bunker is of a string surrounding David Koch&#039;s lawn, and they wait night after night telling ghost stories about death panels and lie in wait for the tide of immigrants and terrorists to move them into FEMA concentration camps and take their coin, along with all the gold they bought with their Social Security checks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forget the bit where said bunker is of a string surrounding David Koch&#8217;s lawn, and they wait night after night telling ghost stories about death panels and lie in wait for the tide of immigrants and terrorists to move them into FEMA concentration camps and take their coin, along with all the gold they bought with their Social Security checks. </p>
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		<title>By: heligo</title>
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		<dc:creator>heligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t we all come up with this solution when we were kids?? I always wondered why the banks didn&#039;t just print &quot;more&quot; money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t we all come up with this solution when we were kids?? I always wondered why the banks didn&#8217;t just print &#8220;more&#8221; money.</p>
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		<title>By: edgore</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This.</p>
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		<title>By: edgore</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just addressing why it&#039;s a platinum coin. You might want to read up on the actual situation though - most of what you mention above has nothing to do with the debt ceiling issues the coin would address (or, rather, circumvent - fiscally there is absolutely no difference between issuing the coin and raising the debt ceiling) or the impacts it would have. Also, social security has nothing to do with the U.S. deficit, since by law social security cannot borrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just addressing why it&#8217;s a platinum coin. You might want to read up on the actual situation though &#8211; most of what you mention above has nothing to do with the debt ceiling issues the coin would address (or, rather, circumvent &#8211; fiscally there is absolutely no difference between issuing the coin and raising the debt ceiling) or the impacts it would have. Also, social security has nothing to do with the U.S. deficit, since by law social security cannot borrow.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Well, if the arguments against cutting defense spending have any merit than we should be able to extort &quot;protection&quot; money from pretty much the entire world solving our &quot;debt problem&quot; neatly.

I still think that getting physical stuff from China in exchange for worthless pieces of paper is a good deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Well, if the arguments against cutting defense spending have any merit than we should be able to extort &#8220;protection&#8221; money from pretty much the entire world solving our &#8220;debt problem&#8221; neatly.</p>
<p>I still think that getting physical stuff from China in exchange for worthless pieces of paper is a good deal.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Inflation may be bad in the long run, but deflation is bad in both the short run &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; the long run.  The key would seem to be balance between inflation and deflation, not preventing inflation at all costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Inflation may be bad in the long run, but deflation is bad in both the short run <em>and</em> the long run.  The key would seem to be balance between inflation and deflation, not preventing inflation at all costs.</p>
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		<title>By: AbleBakerCharlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbleBakerCharlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Endless hard wringing over the present scale of the debt, or of the relatively modest array of accounting tools (including this coin notion- which is really just a T-bill printed on a piece of metal) and taxes being discussed to manage it is pretty much a screaming declaration that you need to go take an mid-grade marcoecon class before you hurt yourself by trying to cram the actual mechanics of a modern mixed economy into some folk conception of debt and savings drawn from grandmotherly aphorisms. Sovereign debt in essentially no way shape or form resembles credit card debt, and printing money isn&#039;t some vast violation of a sacred trust that inevitably leads to destitution as the Invisible Hand smacks you about, it&#039;s just a job that sometimes needs to get done to change the dimensionless quantity that is the money supply to a value that gets people to jobs and roofs over heads. 

To begin with, the scale of a debt itself is irrelevant. A person could go through their life in constant possession of a mortgage that was many times their annual income and never feel destitute, if the payments on said string of mortgages didn&#039;t represent a tremendous opportunity cost relative to their income- regardless of if that income is in the form of loans, or gifts, or paychecks, or whatever.. What matters is the cost of servicing it- and that&#039;s a value that we have access to in the form of the federal budget (debt service is pretty far down in the scheme of things) and in the form of the interest rates that lenders are able to demand from the Treasury- and they are pleasantly low. And when I say low, I mean *negative.* Go look yourself. The global consensus is that the American government&#039;s ability to levy taxes from a nation filled with productive infrastructure and people is so high, relative to other group&#039;s ability to raise money, that the owners of the Big Pool of Money are willing to accept a minor loss as a minder&#039;s fee for their cash. Yes, that&#039;s right, it is presently *profitable* for the Treasury to lend money. 

The story is essentially the same for inflation. There&#039;s this constant freakout about inflation ripping through the middle class when the data at hand suggests that inflation is *lower than it should be.* Yes, that&#039;s right, there&#039;s a level of inflation where things work better, because savings aren&#039;t always good (that&#039;s usually where personal level grandma economics just melts down.) Sometimes. having too much saved switches from being a prudent regulator against random economic fluctuations, rising and falling to smooth out the eddies, and becomes a sink, where economic activity goes and never returns. The only way to get the money out of the sink is to tell its owners that there are better places for it to go, and you do that by making it less valuable relative to having it in the form of things or investment, and you do that by printing money- and the data suggests that that&#039;s about where we are.

The reason that a rising debt can matter isn&#039;t that the debt collector is suddenly going to come around and repo everyone&#039;s car- it&#039;s much better for everyone if they can keep driving said car to work, and we have armies for that too. It&#039;s that it decreases the eagerness of the owners of the Big Pool to lend more, because, effectively, of concerns that the people that got there first will get paid first. But once again, that&#039;s a fear we can assess in the form of the interest rate, and it&#039;s fine- and go figure, when the US is the world&#039;s largest economy and has some of the lowest tax rates in the civilized world, the proportion by which you could raise taxes in the future to pay everyone coming to the trough before you&#039;d have an expectation of substantial economic damage is pretty wide.

Unless of course the body controlling said tax rates views keeping them low as a moral imperative disconnected from the practical (and frequently moral) benefits of having tax revenues, and the public knowledge of that tendency kept people from coming to the trough at all....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Endless hard wringing over the present scale of the debt, or of the relatively modest array of accounting tools (including this coin notion- which is really just a T-bill printed on a piece of metal) and taxes being discussed to manage it is pretty much a screaming declaration that you need to go take an mid-grade marcoecon class before you hurt yourself by trying to cram the actual mechanics of a modern mixed economy into some folk conception of debt and savings drawn from grandmotherly aphorisms. Sovereign debt in essentially no way shape or form resembles credit card debt, and printing money isn&#8217;t some vast violation of a sacred trust that inevitably leads to destitution as the Invisible Hand smacks you about, it&#8217;s just a job that sometimes needs to get done to change the dimensionless quantity that is the money supply to a value that gets people to jobs and roofs over heads. </p>
<p>To begin with, the scale of a debt itself is irrelevant. A person could go through their life in constant possession of a mortgage that was many times their annual income and never feel destitute, if the payments on said string of mortgages didn&#8217;t represent a tremendous opportunity cost relative to their income- regardless of if that income is in the form of loans, or gifts, or paychecks, or whatever.. What matters is the cost of servicing it- and that&#8217;s a value that we have access to in the form of the federal budget (debt service is pretty far down in the scheme of things) and in the form of the interest rates that lenders are able to demand from the Treasury- and they are pleasantly low. And when I say low, I mean *negative.* Go look yourself. The global consensus is that the American government&#8217;s ability to levy taxes from a nation filled with productive infrastructure and people is so high, relative to other group&#8217;s ability to raise money, that the owners of the Big Pool of Money are willing to accept a minor loss as a minder&#8217;s fee for their cash. Yes, that&#8217;s right, it is presently *profitable* for the Treasury to lend money. </p>
<p>The story is essentially the same for inflation. There&#8217;s this constant freakout about inflation ripping through the middle class when the data at hand suggests that inflation is *lower than it should be.* Yes, that&#8217;s right, there&#8217;s a level of inflation where things work better, because savings aren&#8217;t always good (that&#8217;s usually where personal level grandma economics just melts down.) Sometimes. having too much saved switches from being a prudent regulator against random economic fluctuations, rising and falling to smooth out the eddies, and becomes a sink, where economic activity goes and never returns. The only way to get the money out of the sink is to tell its owners that there are better places for it to go, and you do that by making it less valuable relative to having it in the form of things or investment, and you do that by printing money- and the data suggests that that&#8217;s about where we are.</p>
<p>The reason that a rising debt can matter isn&#8217;t that the debt collector is suddenly going to come around and repo everyone&#8217;s car- it&#8217;s much better for everyone if they can keep driving said car to work, and we have armies for that too. It&#8217;s that it decreases the eagerness of the owners of the Big Pool to lend more, because, effectively, of concerns that the people that got there first will get paid first. But once again, that&#8217;s a fear we can assess in the form of the interest rate, and it&#8217;s fine- and go figure, when the US is the world&#8217;s largest economy and has some of the lowest tax rates in the civilized world, the proportion by which you could raise taxes in the future to pay everyone coming to the trough before you&#8217;d have an expectation of substantial economic damage is pretty wide.</p>
<p>Unless of course the body controlling said tax rates views keeping them low as a moral imperative disconnected from the practical (and frequently moral) benefits of having tax revenues, and the public knowledge of that tendency kept people from coming to the trough at all&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Rinke</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention that we won&#039;t have to buy expensive Lego sets for our children anymore!
http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/img_0142.png?w=700&amp;h=568</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention that we won&#8217;t have to buy expensive Lego sets for our children anymore!<br />
<a href="http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/img_0142.png?w=700&#038;h=568" rel="nofollow">http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/img_0142.png?w=700&#038;h=568</a></p>
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		<title>By: LordBlagger</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police are appealing for witnesses to an assault that took place in Norwich by some men dressed up as Oompa Loompas.
It happened on Thursday 27 December at some point between 3.20am and 3.30am on Prince of Wales Road.
The victim, a 28 year old male, had just come out of a kebab house next to Tesco when he was approached by a group of four people - three males and one female. Two of the males were dressed as &#039;Oompa Loompas&#039; from &#039;Charlie and the Chocolate Factory with painted orange faces and dyed green hair and were wearing hooped tops. The female had dark hair and a dress split at the side.
One of the males in the group pushed the victim to the floor before he got up. He was then hit on the head, fell to the floor and hit again.
The victim sustained a cut below his right eye, two black eyes, a small cut to the nose and a cut lip.

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We&#039;re out to arrest them in the UK. If you find them, we want to extradite them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police are appealing for witnesses to an assault that took place in Norwich by some men dressed up as Oompa Loompas.<br />
It happened on Thursday 27 December at some point between 3.20am and 3.30am on Prince of Wales Road.<br />
The victim, a 28 year old male, had just come out of a kebab house next to Tesco when he was approached by a group of four people &#8211; three males and one female. Two of the males were dressed as &#8216;Oompa Loompas&#8217; from &#8216;Charlie and the Chocolate Factory with painted orange faces and dyed green hair and were wearing hooped tops. The female had dark hair and a dress split at the side.<br />
One of the males in the group pushed the victim to the floor before he got up. He was then hit on the head, fell to the floor and hit again.<br />
The victim sustained a cut below his right eye, two black eyes, a small cut to the nose and a cut lip.</p>
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<p>We&#8217;re out to arrest them in the UK. If you find them, we want to extradite them. </p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, they&#039;d never be able to get down Mass Ave, because knowing their smarts they&#039;ll try to do it a rush hour, and will sit there in traffic in their silly hats impotently bleating their tiny scooter horns while real Massholes drive on the sidewalk to get around them and flip them the bird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, they&#8217;d never be able to get down Mass Ave, because knowing their smarts they&#8217;ll try to do it a rush hour, and will sit there in traffic in their silly hats impotently bleating their tiny scooter horns while real Massholes drive on the sidewalk to get around them and flip them the bird.</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But we&#039;ve had much lower inflation rates over the past few years than we normally have. The average inflation rate since 2009 has only been about 1%, well under the approx. 4% inflation that we had during the 90s. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;]

Inflation is far, far better than deflation. A little inflation is just fine in a functioning economy, but deflation causes a downward spiral that destroys economies.

Point being, we can certainly afford a slightly higher inflation than we have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we&#8217;ve had much lower inflation rates over the past few years than we normally have. The average inflation rate since 2009 has only been about 1%, well under the approx. 4% inflation that we had during the 90s. [<a href="http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi" rel="nofollow">1</a>]</p>
<p>Inflation is far, far better than deflation. A little inflation is just fine in a functioning economy, but deflation causes a downward spiral that destroys economies.</p>
<p>Point being, we can certainly afford a slightly higher inflation than we have now.</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/be-ready-to-mint-that-coin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Krugman&#039;s article&lt;/a&gt; and the original NYMag article are quite good here. Essentially they&#039;re saying &quot;nobody would think this is generally a good idea, but in fact it&#039;s far better than the insanity of allowing one party to crash us into the debt ceiling with far more ruinous effects than those involving simply printing money.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/be-ready-to-mint-that-coin/" rel="nofollow">Krugman&#8217;s article</a> and the original NYMag article are quite good here. Essentially they&#8217;re saying &#8220;nobody would think this is generally a good idea, but in fact it&#8217;s far better than the insanity of allowing one party to crash us into the debt ceiling with far more ruinous effects than those involving simply printing money.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He might create it, but it was congress that already authorized spending it and then refused to print, tax, or borrow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He might create it, but it was congress that already authorized spending it and then refused to print, tax, or borrow it.</p>
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