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	<title>Comments on: For crews, reality show life can be&#160;high-risk</title>
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		<title>By: jackbird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/for-crews-reality-show-life-c.html#comment-1625199</link>
		<dc:creator>jackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soundhound mentioned above, production insurance.  All the practical FX people I&#039;ve ever come into contact with were super-serious about cast and crew safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soundhound mentioned above, production insurance.  All the practical FX people I&#8217;ve ever come into contact with were super-serious about cast and crew safety.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Diekman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Diekman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are mental risks to reality TV, as well. Comedian Steve Agee worked for a while on various &quot;reality&quot; shows like The Real World and The Osbournes. His job was to review the many hours of footage searching for juicy moments to make the final cut. After doing this for a while, he became so depressed  he became agoraphobic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are mental risks to reality TV, as well. Comedian Steve Agee worked for a while on various &#8220;reality&#8221; shows like The Real World and The Osbournes. His job was to review the many hours of footage searching for juicy moments to make the final cut. After doing this for a while, he became so depressed  he became agoraphobic.</p>
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		<title>By: flickerKuu</title>
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		<dc:creator>flickerKuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just reality TV. I saw a friend almost creamed by a car on a TV drama. I myself have almost been creamed by a car for a bad movie or TV show. No one really cares, you need to watch out for yourself. Things go wrong when you create car accidents and helicopters exploding for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just reality TV. I saw a friend almost creamed by a car on a TV drama. I myself have almost been creamed by a car for a bad movie or TV show. No one really cares, you need to watch out for yourself. Things go wrong when you create car accidents and helicopters exploding for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: flickerKuu</title>
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		<dc:creator>flickerKuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> If I dropped the camera, it would be covered by production insurance. If they didn&#039;t have production insurance they would be operating illegally. Good luck trying to sue me. It won&#039;t happen. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> If I dropped the camera, it would be covered by production insurance. If they didn&#8217;t have production insurance they would be operating illegally. Good luck trying to sue me. It won&#8217;t happen. </p>
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		<title>By: Francis Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that TLC will soon be making a reality show about the crew of reality shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that TLC will soon be making a reality show about the crew of reality shows.</p>
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		<title>By: flickerKuu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/for-crews-reality-show-life-c.html#comment-1624677</link>
		<dc:creator>flickerKuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> It is. I have friends that do it. A snapped ankle miles out to sea because you slipped is not a good thing. Especially when the boat has to go back and everyone on it just lost $20,000 because of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> It is. I have friends that do it. A snapped ankle miles out to sea because you slipped is not a good thing. Especially when the boat has to go back and everyone on it just lost $20,000 because of you.</p>
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		<title>By: welcomeabored</title>
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		<dc:creator>welcomeabored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Doug from &#039;Dirty Jobs&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Doug from &#8216;Dirty Jobs&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Onymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/for-crews-reality-show-life-c.html#comment-1624333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Onymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Is that like the security guard on Maury Povich?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Is that like the security guard on Maury Povich?</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Onymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/for-crews-reality-show-life-c.html#comment-1624332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Onymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually seen arguments for and against the pirhana thing.  Also, you have to remember that it&#039;s almost 100% probable that they will appear in a shit reality show or shock-travel show.

The pig piss/shit morass was undeniably gross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually seen arguments for and against the pirhana thing.  Also, you have to remember that it&#8217;s almost 100% probable that they will appear in a shit reality show or shock-travel show.</p>
<p>The pig piss/shit morass was undeniably gross.</p>
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		<title>By: tewsday</title>
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		<dc:creator>tewsday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met someone once who worked on &quot;Flavor of Love&quot; as, what she called, a &quot;bitch wrangler.&quot;

Talent coordinators have dangerous jobs, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met someone once who worked on &#8220;Flavor of Love&#8221; as, what she called, a &#8220;bitch wrangler.&#8221;</p>
<p>Talent coordinators have dangerous jobs, too.</p>
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		<title>By: soundhound</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundhound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most productions always seem to have zero qualm about putting the crew in harms way.  Often the attitude is that you&#039;re a daily employee so go ahead and walk, they&#039;ll just replace you.  Usually the startup paperwork you have to fill out is full of waivers and arbitration clauses.

Funny that once an &#039;above the line&#039; employee, in this case the co-executive producer, gets injured all of a sudden it&#039;s an issue.

BTW, tell your friend to drop the camera next time.  It&#039;s very unlikely he&#039;s on the hook for the expense.  The gear is insured and replaceable, he is not.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most productions always seem to have zero qualm about putting the crew in harms way.  Often the attitude is that you&#8217;re a daily employee so go ahead and walk, they&#8217;ll just replace you.  Usually the startup paperwork you have to fill out is full of waivers and arbitration clauses.</p>
<p>Funny that once an &#8216;above the line&#8217; employee, in this case the co-executive producer, gets injured all of a sudden it&#8217;s an issue.</p>
<p>BTW, tell your friend to drop the camera next time.  It&#8217;s very unlikely he&#8217;s on the hook for the expense.  The gear is insured and replaceable, he is not.  </p>
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		<title>By: Rider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the dangers of piranhas is a modern urban legend. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the dangers of piranhas is a modern urban legend. </p>
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		<title>By: Jen Onymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/for-crews-reality-show-life-c.html#comment-1623996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Onymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kid whom I used to babysit (agh, I feel old now) is now a freelance cameraman, and most of his engagements are for travel or reality TV shows.  I was seated next to him at a friends/family holiday event and I got an earful of horror stories. 

Apparently, in a lot of cases, you are using the client&#039;s very $$$$ gear, and must often maneuver it in dangerous/disgusting/bad-for-cameras locations.  So, sometimes, he&#039;s had to make the decision of &quot;do I drop the camera and 100% avoid damage to myself, but lose the gig and owe the client $40K that I don&#039;t have/which  my pro insurance may decline to cover, or do my best to put the camera down safely/hand off camera and do a bit of flailing afterwards and hope that I don&#039;t get seriously hurt/only get dirty/bitten/exposed to vile and potentially harmful substances.&quot;

The money is good for what he does, but he&#039;s faced things like piranhas, vats full of biting ants, potential bad falls, and massive tubs of pig waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kid whom I used to babysit (agh, I feel old now) is now a freelance cameraman, and most of his engagements are for travel or reality TV shows.  I was seated next to him at a friends/family holiday event and I got an earful of horror stories. </p>
<p>Apparently, in a lot of cases, you are using the client&#8217;s very $$$$ gear, and must often maneuver it in dangerous/disgusting/bad-for-cameras locations.  So, sometimes, he&#8217;s had to make the decision of &#8220;do I drop the camera and 100% avoid damage to myself, but lose the gig and owe the client $40K that I don&#8217;t have/which  my pro insurance may decline to cover, or do my best to put the camera down safely/hand off camera and do a bit of flailing afterwards and hope that I don&#8217;t get seriously hurt/only get dirty/bitten/exposed to vile and potentially harmful substances.&#8221;</p>
<p>The money is good for what he does, but he&#8217;s faced things like piranhas, vats full of biting ants, potential bad falls, and massive tubs of pig waste.</p>
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		<title>By: kmoser</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. I&#039;ve always thought that being a videographer on shows like Deadliest Catch was almost as dangerous as being one of the boat crew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I&#8217;ve always thought that being a videographer on shows like Deadliest Catch was almost as dangerous as being one of the boat crew.</p>
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		<title>By: OldBrownSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldBrownSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Am I missing an eyebrow?&quot; -Adam Savage </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Am I missing an eyebrow?&#8221; -Adam Savage </p>
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		<title>By: Rider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how there is a race to get riskier.  Deadliest Catch was one of the first and it&#039;s filming in the deadliest work environment in the world. 

If anything the trend is towards totally staged risk free shows like Moonshiners and Amish Mafia. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how there is a race to get riskier.  Deadliest Catch was one of the first and it&#8217;s filming in the deadliest work environment in the world. </p>
<p>If anything the trend is towards totally staged risk free shows like Moonshiners and Amish Mafia. </p>
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