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	<title>Comments on: NYC&#039;s new parking signs are great information&#160;design</title>
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		<title>By: fivetonsflax</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1626154</link>
		<dc:creator>fivetonsflax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No standing implies no parking.</description>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1626149</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an awesome plate. Not sure if I&#039;m going to want to pay a steep yearly fee for a plate either, though, even one so awesome; that&#039;s an issue for sure.

I am not really a huge fan of the Yosemite plate by itself (with the Smaug reference it&#039;s perfect); the design just isn&#039;t that aesthetically pleasing. I have been considering getting the one with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmv.ca.gov/imageserver/dmv/images/elp/artsT_150.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;palm trees and sunset&lt;/a&gt;, which I take to be a kitschy homage to the 80&#039;s one, but I am not sure if I actually like it or would just enjoy having it ironically (or just to be different).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an awesome plate. Not sure if I&#8217;m going to want to pay a steep yearly fee for a plate either, though, even one so awesome; that&#8217;s an issue for sure.</p>
<p>I am not really a huge fan of the Yosemite plate by itself (with the Smaug reference it&#8217;s perfect); the design just isn&#8217;t that aesthetically pleasing. I have been considering getting the one with <a href="http://www.dmv.ca.gov/imageserver/dmv/images/elp/artsT_150.jpg" rel="nofollow">palm trees and sunset</a>, which I take to be a kitschy homage to the 80&#8242;s one, but I am not sure if I actually like it or would just enjoy having it ironically (or just to be different).</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1626138</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@boingboing-096f32c997988c54d6d7c09ff0be4d32:disqus I have encountered plenty of these intersections in LA and it has caused me a lot of anxiety (as someone from the wide-open WNY suburbs), but it&#039;s not as bad as Toronto :) 
Of course, I haven&#039;t really driven around LA all that much at weekday rush hour and the like when it&#039;s really bad (and when I have I&#039;m usually making a beeline to the freeway, not that the freeways at that time are any less anxiety-inducing, but it&#039;s a different and not as bad anxiety as trying to make a left turn).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@boingboing-096f32c997988c54d6d7c09ff0be4d32:disqus I have encountered plenty of these intersections in LA and it has caused me a lot of anxiety (as someone from the wide-open WNY suburbs), but it&#8217;s not as bad as Toronto :) <br />
Of course, I haven&#8217;t really driven around LA all that much at weekday rush hour and the like when it&#8217;s really bad (and when I have I&#8217;m usually making a beeline to the freeway, not that the freeways at that time are any less anxiety-inducing, but it&#8217;s a different and not as bad anxiety as trying to make a left turn).</p>
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		<title>By: waetherman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625476</link>
		<dc:creator>waetherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get where you&#039;re coming from. Sorry I called you an idiot earlier.

I agree with you in principle, but I think that you&#039;re approach is wrong. IF there is such a thing as public parking, it should be used to the public&#039;s benefit, which means charging market rates. Making it more time-consuming or difficult to park,  however, does the public no good - in fact I&#039;d say it does the public harm. Frustration is not a resource that can be captured.

Something like an EZ-pass for parking could make the system more efficient, and allow rates to fluctuate based on location and time. And that might also reduce congestion and pollution as well.

I also think you&#039;re miscategorizing all drivers in NYC as &quot;luxury&quot; - driving is a luxury for most, but it is a necessity for some. Something like an EZ-pass for parking could adjust rates based on the type of usage, i.e. different rates for for commercial, personal, handicapped, senior, etc. Heck, a well designed system could even be designed to charge progressive rates depending on the type of car that was parked; a Civic could be charged $2/hour and a Mercedes could be charged $20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get where you&#8217;re coming from. Sorry I called you an idiot earlier.</p>
<p>I agree with you in principle, but I think that you&#8217;re approach is wrong. IF there is such a thing as public parking, it should be used to the public&#8217;s benefit, which means charging market rates. Making it more time-consuming or difficult to park,  however, does the public no good &#8211; in fact I&#8217;d say it does the public harm. Frustration is not a resource that can be captured.</p>
<p>Something like an EZ-pass for parking could make the system more efficient, and allow rates to fluctuate based on location and time. And that might also reduce congestion and pollution as well.</p>
<p>I also think you&#8217;re miscategorizing all drivers in NYC as &#8220;luxury&#8221; &#8211; driving is a luxury for most, but it is a necessity for some. Something like an EZ-pass for parking could adjust rates based on the type of usage, i.e. different rates for for commercial, personal, handicapped, senior, etc. Heck, a well designed system could even be designed to charge progressive rates depending on the type of car that was parked; a Civic could be charged $2/hour and a Mercedes could be charged $20.</p>
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		<title>By: kromelizard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625461</link>
		<dc:creator>kromelizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all these things. 

I am against making it more convenient or cheaper to park your vehicle in public space. It is far too cheap to park in the city and users of private automobiles do not pay the cost for the burden their vehicle places on the public infrastructure. I don&#039;t like subsidizing what is in effect someone else&#039;s luxury expense. 

You want to drive? Pay your fair share. Which is a lot more than a few quarters for curbside parking. And be prepared to pay in time and effort too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all these things. </p>
<p>I am against making it more convenient or cheaper to park your vehicle in public space. It is far too cheap to park in the city and users of private automobiles do not pay the cost for the burden their vehicle places on the public infrastructure. I don&#8217;t like subsidizing what is in effect someone else&#8217;s luxury expense. </p>
<p>You want to drive? Pay your fair share. Which is a lot more than a few quarters for curbside parking. And be prepared to pay in time and effort too.</p>
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		<title>By: waetherman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625457</link>
		<dc:creator>waetherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re a NYCer than you&#039;d know that just crossing the threshold of a parking garage will cost you $15-$20, and staying more than an hour will run you $20-$30. And that&#039;s before the nearly 20% tax is added on. Parking meters by comparison cost at most a couple bucks an hour.

I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re getting bent over an idea that would remove the need for interacting with those frustrating Muni-Meters, and that wouldn&#039;t require driving around with a bunch of quarters in the ashtray. Seems like a good idea to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re a NYCer than you&#8217;d know that just crossing the threshold of a parking garage will cost you $15-$20, and staying more than an hour will run you $20-$30. And that&#8217;s before the nearly 20% tax is added on. Parking meters by comparison cost at most a couple bucks an hour.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re getting bent over an idea that would remove the need for interacting with those frustrating Muni-Meters, and that wouldn&#8217;t require driving around with a bunch of quarters in the ashtray. Seems like a good idea to me.</p>
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		<title>By: steve849</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625448</link>
		<dc:creator>steve849</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Equally confusing to me.  </description>
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		<title>By: Dlo Burns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625335</link>
		<dc:creator>Dlo Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should build a package launcher into the top of the truck to shoot boxes into the windows of buildings without skipping a beat. Claim it&#039;s anti-terrorist for federal dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should build a package launcher into the top of the truck to shoot boxes into the windows of buildings without skipping a beat. Claim it&#8217;s anti-terrorist for federal dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: TWX</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625311</link>
		<dc:creator>TWX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That&#039;s what I got too.  My only worry is being ticketed for standing while stopped to read the sign to see what it says.  Though the current one is a lot better than the previous.

As to the idea that they need an LED sign or something, the only practical improvement I can think of would be to LED-frame or else backlight the current conditions, while in effect.  Don&#039;t make the sign change its text, just highlight the box surrounding the current rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s what I got too.  My only worry is being ticketed for standing while stopped to read the sign to see what it says.  Though the current one is a lot better than the previous.</p>
<p>As to the idea that they need an LED sign or something, the only practical improvement I can think of would be to LED-frame or else backlight the current conditions, while in effect.  Don&#8217;t make the sign change its text, just highlight the box surrounding the current rules.</p>
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		<title>By: TWX</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Here there be dragons...

...or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Here there be dragons&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;or not.</p>
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		<title>By: kromelizard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625279</link>
		<dc:creator>kromelizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about you just take the damn thing to a parking lot if that&#039;s what you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about you just take the damn thing to a parking lot if that&#8217;s what you want?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1625019</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you really need a license plate frame around here these days.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/smaugjr/8055471834/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the plate&lt;/a&gt; I ended up getting for the Cougar once I found I couldn&#039;t get black ones.  (This was around 1996 or so, when cars older than 1973 were declared exempt from smog tests.  I was inordinately pleased at the time.)

Since these plates cost me an extra $80 or so a year, the joke wore thin, and so last year I just went to the Auto Club to pay my renewal (beats going to the DMV), and decided on the spot to just get new generic white plates.  I got to keep the Yosemite NO SMAUG plates (since I&#039;d paid for them when I got them), and they just handed me new plates for a cheaper renewal fee.  The Yosemite ones go on the wall of my garage, among my collection of plates I&#039;ve had since I was a small boy.

But I&#039;m keeping the Rhino Bucket frame.  Not only are they my favorite band, but Chris is right: the DMV URL at the bottom of the new plate is unnecessarily obnoxious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you really need a license plate frame around here these days.  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/smaugjr/8055471834/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the plate</a> I ended up getting for the Cougar once I found I couldn&#8217;t get black ones.  (This was around 1996 or so, when cars older than 1973 were declared exempt from smog tests.  I was inordinately pleased at the time.)</p>
<p>Since these plates cost me an extra $80 or so a year, the joke wore thin, and so last year I just went to the Auto Club to pay my renewal (beats going to the DMV), and decided on the spot to just get new generic white plates.  I got to keep the Yosemite NO SMAUG plates (since I&#8217;d paid for them when I got them), and they just handed me new plates for a cheaper renewal fee.  The Yosemite ones go on the wall of my garage, among my collection of plates I&#8217;ve had since I was a small boy.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m keeping the Rhino Bucket frame.  Not only are they my favorite band, but Chris is right: the DMV URL at the bottom of the new plate is unnecessarily obnoxious.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LA is relatively new to the left-turn arrow scene.  I&#039;m from San Diego originally, and SD is generously packed with left-turn arrows.  Generally, if the intersection is big enough to include both traffic lights &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; dedicated left-turn lanes, then those lanes will be graced with their own left-arrow signals.  When I moved to LA in 1991, I found precisely one intersection in my day-to-day travels that provided a left-turn arrow signal: at Sunset &amp; La Brea.  So yeah, at every other intersection I had to get used to waiting for the light to turn green, then creep into the middle of the intersection and wait for all the oncoming traffic to go by (generally after the light has completely gone red), then I and the ambitious car or two behind me could try to complete our turn before the cross-traffic could clobber us.

Chaos.  Savagery.  No way to run a railroad.  In recent years, however, the left-turn arrows have started popping up here and there, but they&#039;re still relatively uncommon in LA.  Timid drivers new to the situation will find themselves paralyzed, stuck behind the limit line through endless cycles, honked and screamed at by all and sundry before some gentle soul in the oncoming lane stops to wave them through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LA is relatively new to the left-turn arrow scene.  I&#8217;m from San Diego originally, and SD is generously packed with left-turn arrows.  Generally, if the intersection is big enough to include both traffic lights <b>and</b> dedicated left-turn lanes, then those lanes will be graced with their own left-arrow signals.  When I moved to LA in 1991, I found precisely one intersection in my day-to-day travels that provided a left-turn arrow signal: at Sunset &amp; La Brea.  So yeah, at every other intersection I had to get used to waiting for the light to turn green, then creep into the middle of the intersection and wait for all the oncoming traffic to go by (generally after the light has completely gone red), then I and the ambitious car or two behind me could try to complete our turn before the cross-traffic could clobber us.</p>
<p>Chaos.  Savagery.  No way to run a railroad.  In recent years, however, the left-turn arrows have started popping up here and there, but they&#8217;re still relatively uncommon in LA.  Timid drivers new to the situation will find themselves paralyzed, stuck behind the limit line through endless cycles, honked and screamed at by all and sundry before some gentle soul in the oncoming lane stops to wave them through.</p>
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		<title>By: flickerKuu</title>
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		<dc:creator>flickerKuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not confusing? If you say so... </description>
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		<title>By: Rick Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I would say that I saw at least one ticket handed out every day (I used to take a lot of smoke-breaks). If I stood outside for long however, I could probably see several in an hour. Every one of them claimed not to understand why they got a ticket, but then again, that&#039;s pretty much what everyone says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I would say that I saw at least one ticket handed out every day (I used to take a lot of smoke-breaks). If I stood outside for long however, I could probably see several in an hour. Every one of them claimed not to understand why they got a ticket, but then again, that&#8217;s pretty much what everyone says.</p>
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		<title>By: Hegelian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hegelian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That&#039;s the problem with sarcasm in print, people can&#039;t tell if you men what you say. I can&#039;t tell if he&#039;s being sarcastic or not. Perhaps he should use a sarcasm font, such as Sarcastica Light Oblique, so that we can know for sure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s the problem with sarcasm in print, people can&#8217;t tell if you men what you say. I can&#8217;t tell if he&#8217;s being sarcastic or not. Perhaps he should use a sarcasm font, such as Sarcastica Light Oblique, so that we can know for sure?</p>
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		<title>By: jackbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  This is in a busy commercial/wholesale district, where huge numbers of pickups and deliveries take place, and where after business hours there are a large number of dining/entertainment establishments.  The simple version of the rules is:

&quot;During business hours, commercial vehicles can pay for up to three hours of parking.  After business hours, anybody can pay for up to 6 hours of parking.  After midnight, parking is free.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  This is in a busy commercial/wholesale district, where huge numbers of pickups and deliveries take place, and where after business hours there are a large number of dining/entertainment establishments.  The simple version of the rules is:</p>
<p>&#8220;During business hours, commercial vehicles can pay for up to three hours of parking.  After business hours, anybody can pay for up to 6 hours of parking.  After midnight, parking is free.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jackbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy who came up with those signs later wrote the &quot;traffic forecast&quot; column in one of the NY tabloids, the existence of which blew my mind when I first came to NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy who came up with those signs later wrote the &#8220;traffic forecast&#8221; column in one of the NY tabloids, the existence of which blew my mind when I first came to NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: jackbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course they ticket Fedex/UPS.  And corporate pays the tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they ticket Fedex/UPS.  And corporate pays the tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: dmc10</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624525</link>
		<dc:creator>dmc10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh, looks like I need to read better -- with so much text there, I didn&#039;t even see it. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh, looks like I need to read better &#8212; with so much text there, I didn&#8217;t even see it. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: jackbird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624523</link>
		<dc:creator>jackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per Bloombito&#039;s decree, all parking is free everywhere in NYC on Sundays.  Like &quot;No turn on red absolutely everywhere,&quot; which is posted only at a couple of places along the city line, (not including the Hudson River tunnels IIRC) it&#039;s assumed to be known by the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per Bloombito&#8217;s decree, all parking is free everywhere in NYC on Sundays.  Like &#8220;No turn on red absolutely everywhere,&#8221; which is posted only at a couple of places along the city line, (not including the Hudson River tunnels IIRC) it&#8217;s assumed to be known by the audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Crashproof</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624507</link>
		<dc:creator>Crashproof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The signs on the right are an improvement, but it seems to me like the real problem is the complexity of the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The signs on the right are an improvement, but it seems to me like the real problem is the complexity of the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624468</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorzdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still have the costs of maintenance + cleaning + manufacture + installation + removal (when broken or damaged) + overtime with LED. Plus the added cost to the city of powering the LEDs. I suspect pilferage would become a real issue with LEDs, too.

LEDs tend to not be as crisp and legible as a printed sign, too. Text, especially, is an issue with LED signage, especially at smaller sizes and long-ish distances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still have the costs of maintenance + cleaning + manufacture + installation + removal (when broken or damaged) + overtime with LED. Plus the added cost to the city of powering the LEDs. I suspect pilferage would become a real issue with LEDs, too.</p>
<p>LEDs tend to not be as crisp and legible as a printed sign, too. Text, especially, is an issue with LED signage, especially at smaller sizes and long-ish distances.</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624450</link>
		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I remember when those were rolled out sometime during the Koch administration. They engendered some paranoid kerfuffle about the Government attempting to encode thoughtcrime into law, although in hindsight that may well have been one lone vociferous nut writing lots of Letters To The Editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I remember when those were rolled out sometime during the Koch administration. They engendered some paranoid kerfuffle about the Government attempting to encode thoughtcrime into law, although in hindsight that may well have been one lone vociferous nut writing lots of Letters To The Editor.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do/did they still have the sign that I loved (when visiting in 1985) that simply said &quot;Don&#039;t Even Think About Parking Here&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do/did they still have the sign that I loved (when visiting in 1985) that simply said &#8220;Don&#8217;t Even Think About Parking Here&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: peregrinus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624441</link>
		<dc:creator>peregrinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I understand the the signs are &quot;before&quot; and &quot;after&quot;, and bringing to bear the lengthy experience I have parking in numerous continents&#039; cities, I get it.  It is a little bit of progress.

Crumbs, I thought *both* signs were in play.

But LED would be so much better, especially linked to a smartphone app.  And in the long run, surely cheaper?  I don&#039;t know how often those signs change, but costs of maintenance + cleaning + manufacture + installation + removal + overtime for the workers +++ .... and with LED displays you could actively manage how the parking works - imagine if each vehicle registered its precise location to a receiving unit so could be constantly updated and warned of changes - eg easy to clear for a parade day.

I mean, imagine pitching up in the middle of town, with an app that knows where you&#039;re going and how long you&#039;ll be there - and it reserved a spot and directed you there?!?!  Please!  Please!  Please!

I&#039;m going to use my two Raspberry Pis to pitch this to NYC.  Simples.

btw I live in London and out of abject fear I park hardly anywhere at all.  I got fined £65 the other day while I picked up beer.  Beer!  Surely there&#039;s a qualifying exemption?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I understand the the signs are &#8220;before&#8221; and &#8220;after&#8221;, and bringing to bear the lengthy experience I have parking in numerous continents&#8217; cities, I get it.  It is a little bit of progress.</p>
<p>Crumbs, I thought *both* signs were in play.</p>
<p>But LED would be so much better, especially linked to a smartphone app.  And in the long run, surely cheaper?  I don&#8217;t know how often those signs change, but costs of maintenance + cleaning + manufacture + installation + removal + overtime for the workers +++ &#8230;. and with LED displays you could actively manage how the parking works &#8211; imagine if each vehicle registered its precise location to a receiving unit so could be constantly updated and warned of changes &#8211; eg easy to clear for a parade day.</p>
<p>I mean, imagine pitching up in the middle of town, with an app that knows where you&#8217;re going and how long you&#8217;ll be there &#8211; and it reserved a spot and directed you there?!?!  Please!  Please!  Please!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to use my two Raspberry Pis to pitch this to NYC.  Simples.</p>
<p>btw I live in London and out of abject fear I park hardly anywhere at all.  I got fined £65 the other day while I picked up beer.  Beer!  Surely there&#8217;s a qualifying exemption?!</p>
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		<title>By: Chentzilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624430</link>
		<dc:creator>Chentzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, thanks. It even says &quot;Before&quot; and &quot;After&quot;, damn my eyes!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thanks. It even says &#8220;Before&#8221; and &#8220;After&#8221;, damn my eyes!</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624427</link>
		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Before is the pole on the left.  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s &#039;shopped in or if both sets of signs were there concurrently during installation, but there you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Before is the pole on the left.  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s &#8216;shopped in or if both sets of signs were there concurrently during installation, but there you go.</p>
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		<title>By: just_a_user</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624418</link>
		<dc:creator>just_a_user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Red (not allowed) and green (allowed) don&#039;t cover all the cases.  They are:
1. Not allowed to park
2. Allowed to park but you have have to pay
3. Allowed to park - you don&#039;t have to pay (Sunday?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Red (not allowed) and green (allowed) don&#8217;t cover all the cases.  They are:<br />
1. Not allowed to park<br />
2. Allowed to park but you have have to pay<br />
3. Allowed to park &#8211; you don&#8217;t have to pay (Sunday?)</p>
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		<title>By: Chentzilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/nycs-new-parking-signs-are-g.html#comment-1624415</link>
		<dc:creator>Chentzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;before&quot; picture would be nice, I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;before&#8221; picture would be nice, I agree.</p>
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