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	<title>Comments on: Police raid home moments after elderly woman dies, to snatch her&#160;meds</title>
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		<title>By: Bill McGonigle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1627423</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McGonigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That it was done at all makes it illegal.  That it was done to a grieving widower makes it assholery. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That it was done at all makes it illegal.  That it was done to a grieving widower makes it assholery. </p>
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		<title>By: Bill McGonigle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McGonigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I&#039;ve had to tell a hospice nurse to get stuffed before.  Not quite so bluntly, but she was full of crazy and we had her replaced by a lovely, competent, compassionate nurse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve had to tell a hospice nurse to get stuffed before.  Not quite so bluntly, but she was full of crazy and we had her replaced by a lovely, competent, compassionate nurse.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FDA actually publishes guidelines about what medications can be flushed and which can&#039;t be.  Opiate narcotics can be flushed because they&#039;re chemically almost identical to a substance our own bodies produce and they break down just fine in water.  You can find the FDA guidelines here.  Basically, Opiates are OK, everything else has to be denatured in bleach and absorbed by kitty litter or coffee grounds.  http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/buyingusingmedicinesafely/ensuringsafeuseofmedicine/safedisposalofmedicines/ucm186187.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FDA actually publishes guidelines about what medications can be flushed and which can&#8217;t be.  Opiate narcotics can be flushed because they&#8217;re chemically almost identical to a substance our own bodies produce and they break down just fine in water.  You can find the FDA guidelines here.  Basically, Opiates are OK, everything else has to be denatured in bleach and absorbed by kitty litter or coffee grounds.  http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/buyingusingmedicinesafely/ensuringsafeuseofmedicine/safedisposalofmedicines/ucm186187.htm</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you described was highly inappropriate for the nurse to do.  That&#039;s the big thing about home-care.  We&#039;re not in charge, the patient and family is.  Crucial difference between home care and facility based nursing.  If I heard of something like that happening, I would report them to the state.  In some states it&#039;s the department of public health, some states have a separate nursing body.  Denying someone pain medication that is prescribed for them when it would be appropriate for them to take it equivalent to elder abuse according to...let&#039;s see if I can remember this right...  The Elder Justice Act of 2010? I think that&#039;s the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you described was highly inappropriate for the nurse to do.  That&#8217;s the big thing about home-care.  We&#8217;re not in charge, the patient and family is.  Crucial difference between home care and facility based nursing.  If I heard of something like that happening, I would report them to the state.  In some states it&#8217;s the department of public health, some states have a separate nursing body.  Denying someone pain medication that is prescribed for them when it would be appropriate for them to take it equivalent to elder abuse according to&#8230;let&#8217;s see if I can remember this right&#8230;  The Elder Justice Act of 2010? I think that&#8217;s the one.</p>
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		<title>By: TripleE78</title>
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		<dc:creator>TripleE78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That&#039;s how my my mom got Parkinson&#039;s meds when her insurance kept dicking around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s how my my mom got Parkinson&#8217;s meds when her insurance kept dicking around.</p>
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		<title>By: Ninabi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1624479</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the day before a friend&#039;s husband died of cancer, he was in his home, waiting  a transport vehicle.  The hospice nurse decided he should go to the hospice facility that day.
Two friends and I watched as the hospice nurse did not care for a semi-conscious, flailing man but instead insisted that his wife take the time to gather up all medications, every single bottle, and destroy them, right in front of the nurse&#039;s eyes while she completed the paperwork.

Shouldn&#039;t this man have some pain medication before his 40 minute trip? One of us asked.

The nurse said, Oh, he will get pain medication when he gets to the hospice facility.

Before those bottles were emptied and the contents mixed with dish soap, we begged the nurse to take one pain tablet and crush it and put it under the man&#039;s tongue, as it appeared he was quite uncomfortable.

It was a sad scene that added incredible stress and pain.   We are not a young group and we found it very odd that eliminating the possibility of prescription drug abuse trumped caring for a man in his dying hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the day before a friend&#8217;s husband died of cancer, he was in his home, waiting  a transport vehicle.  The hospice nurse decided he should go to the hospice facility that day.<br />
Two friends and I watched as the hospice nurse did not care for a semi-conscious, flailing man but instead insisted that his wife take the time to gather up all medications, every single bottle, and destroy them, right in front of the nurse&#8217;s eyes while she completed the paperwork.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t this man have some pain medication before his 40 minute trip? One of us asked.</p>
<p>The nurse said, Oh, he will get pain medication when he gets to the hospice facility.</p>
<p>Before those bottles were emptied and the contents mixed with dish soap, we begged the nurse to take one pain tablet and crush it and put it under the man&#8217;s tongue, as it appeared he was quite uncomfortable.</p>
<p>It was a sad scene that added incredible stress and pain.   We are not a young group and we found it very odd that eliminating the possibility of prescription drug abuse trumped caring for a man in his dying hours.</p>
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		<title>By: cdh1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdh1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cops and their spawn need to be remedied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops and their spawn need to be remedied.</p>
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		<title>By: j9c</title>
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		<dc:creator>j9c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Patrick for doing one of the hardest jobs there is. Wow.

Gotta say though our planet&#039;s water sources sure don&#039;t need more pharmaceuticals pollution. Not in freshwater sources, not in ocean waters. These contaminants are not good for animals, plants, people, etc. 

http://www.ewg.org/node/26128

http://www.alternet.org/story/43242/how_prescription_drugs_are_poisoning_our_waters

http://www.noaa.gov/features/protecting_1208/pharmaceuticals.html

So, good people reading this, please do if at all possible consider--within the laws that govern your region--recycling the pills through charity hospitals; or if you can&#039;t get constituted authorities to address the needs in indigent patients, put the dang pills in the trash with the kitty litter and something nasty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Patrick for doing one of the hardest jobs there is. Wow.</p>
<p>Gotta say though our planet&#8217;s water sources sure don&#8217;t need more pharmaceuticals pollution. Not in freshwater sources, not in ocean waters. These contaminants are not good for animals, plants, people, etc. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ewg.org/node/26128" rel="nofollow">http://www.ewg.org/node/26128</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/43242/how_prescription_drugs_are_poisoning_our_waters" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/story/43242/how_prescription_drugs_are_poisoning_our_waters</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.noaa.gov/features/protecting_1208/pharmaceuticals.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.noaa.gov/features/protecting_1208/pharmaceuticals.html</a></p>
<p>So, good people reading this, please do if at all possible consider&#8211;within the laws that govern your region&#8211;recycling the pills through charity hospitals; or if you can&#8217;t get constituted authorities to address the needs in indigent patients, put the dang pills in the trash with the kitty litter and something nasty. </p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You never had a tooth abscess, did you? I was glad I managed to source some &quot;too strong&quot; stuff earlier, just for case such shit will happen - and it always seems to happen when the help is dozens of hours away.

High-end painkillers are a must-have in every zombie apocalypse kit. You don&#039;t know what will happen; stuff you have you can choose to not use, while you can&#039;t choose to use something you don&#039;t have on-hand. So until there are molecular assemblers on every desktop, the imperative is &quot;keep it&quot;. (If it is a solid form, keep it vacuum-packed in a freezer; due to the Arrhenius law it will slow down the degradation very significantly, keeping the things effective way past the expiration date.)

Shit happens. Be prepared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never had a tooth abscess, did you? I was glad I managed to source some &#8220;too strong&#8221; stuff earlier, just for case such shit will happen &#8211; and it always seems to happen when the help is dozens of hours away.</p>
<p>High-end painkillers are a must-have in every zombie apocalypse kit. You don&#8217;t know what will happen; stuff you have you can choose to not use, while you can&#8217;t choose to use something you don&#8217;t have on-hand. So until there are molecular assemblers on every desktop, the imperative is &#8220;keep it&#8221;. (If it is a solid form, keep it vacuum-packed in a freezer; due to the Arrhenius law it will slow down the degradation very significantly, keeping the things effective way past the expiration date.)</p>
<p>Shit happens. Be prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cops are scum.

These may be podunk cops, but NYPD just got slapped down today for their practice of rousting random non-white people on bogus trespass investigations. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops are scum.</p>
<p>These may be podunk cops, but NYPD just got slapped down today for their practice of rousting random non-white people on bogus trespass investigations. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandfather told me that after his wife died a friend of hers visited and asked for her medication. The friend didn&#039;t seem to care what my grandmother had been taking, just that it was drugs. My grandfather took the lot to a hospital pharmacy the next day for disposal.

I suppose that quite a few drugs abandoned in that situation get misused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather told me that after his wife died a friend of hers visited and asked for her medication. The friend didn&#8217;t seem to care what my grandmother had been taking, just that it was drugs. My grandfather took the lot to a hospital pharmacy the next day for disposal.</p>
<p>I suppose that quite a few drugs abandoned in that situation get misused.</p>
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		<title>By: redesigned</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1624261</link>
		<dc:creator>redesigned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess these cops don&#039;t dare wait in case people dispose of the medicines, they need to ensure they get their hands on them in time so they can sell them on the street.

sounds like dirty cops with someone from 911 tipping them off whenever someone dies.  either that or callous idiots.  either way they deserve to be reprimanded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess these cops don&#8217;t dare wait in case people dispose of the medicines, they need to ensure they get their hands on them in time so they can sell them on the street.</p>
<p>sounds like dirty cops with someone from 911 tipping them off whenever someone dies.  either that or callous idiots.  either way they deserve to be reprimanded.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> And the cop says, &quot;Stop resisting! Stop resisting!&quot; as he electrocutes you with his taser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> And the cop says, &#8220;Stop resisting! Stop resisting!&#8221; as he electrocutes you with his taser.</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brought to you by the Partnership for a Drug Free America and Lou&#039;s Home Lobotomies for Less. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brought to you by the Partnership for a Drug Free America and Lou&#8217;s Home Lobotomies for Less. </p>
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		<title>By: redesigned</title>
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		<dc:creator>redesigned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also known as weird weird :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also known as weird weird :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Legotech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legotech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all surprised. My mom died at home just a few days after coming home from the Hospital. We had NO help from the Hospice group in the days leading up to her death and when we called to say she had passed, they sent over a Rabbi. The Rabbi&#039;s FIRST question upon entering the house was &quot;where are the medications?&quot; She even followed my sister into the BATHROOM to make sure we weren&#039;t trying to hide anything. And then the Rabbi walked out and left behind the highly narcotic pain med pump that had been attached to my mom saying that someone else would be by to pick that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all surprised. My mom died at home just a few days after coming home from the Hospital. We had NO help from the Hospice group in the days leading up to her death and when we called to say she had passed, they sent over a Rabbi. The Rabbi&#8217;s FIRST question upon entering the house was &#8220;where are the medications?&#8221; She even followed my sister into the BATHROOM to make sure we weren&#8217;t trying to hide anything. And then the Rabbi walked out and left behind the highly narcotic pain med pump that had been attached to my mom saying that someone else would be by to pick that up.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;he says officers insisted he help them look for the drugs&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fifth amendment says I don&#039;t have to talk to you. Thirteenth amendment says I don&#039;t work for you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he says officers insisted he help them look for the drugs</p></blockquote>
<p>Fifth amendment says I don&#8217;t have to talk to you. Thirteenth amendment says I don&#8217;t work for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Don McClain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don McClain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver Stone recently stated to an overseas news network that American society had become &quot;Orwellian.&quot; This can serve as Exhibit A. We have lost all control of our police. Intimidation is the rule and common decency unheard of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver Stone recently stated to an overseas news network that American society had become &#8220;Orwellian.&#8221; This can serve as Exhibit A. We have lost all control of our police. Intimidation is the rule and common decency unheard of.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In civilized places, the doctor suggests that the grieving spouse take a couple of those valium if they need them.  In fact, we occasionally (and legally) dispensed a small quantity of controlled substances to grieving relatives of patients who had died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In civilized places, the doctor suggests that the grieving spouse take a couple of those valium if they need them.  In fact, we occasionally (and legally) dispensed a small quantity of controlled substances to grieving relatives of patients who had died.</p>
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		<title>By: That Special Something</title>
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		<dc:creator>That Special Something</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand people wanting to git rid of strong medication, but flushing them down the toilet!
Why put that stuff into the water supply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand people wanting to git rid of strong medication, but flushing them down the toilet!<br />
Why put that stuff into the water supply?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You need to have what I would consider pretty weird beliefs in order to care about this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You seem to be using an awfully variant definition of &#039;weird&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You need to have what I would consider pretty weird beliefs in order to care about this.</p></blockquote>
<p>You seem to be using an awfully variant definition of &#8216;weird&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: perch</title>
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		<dc:creator>perch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. That may explain why I can&#039;t tolerate opiates at all. Bipolar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. That may explain why I can&#8217;t tolerate opiates at all. Bipolar.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The medication is the property of the person for whom it was prescribed - upon their death the medications are the property of the next of kin.  Now, it may be true that it would be inadvisable for that person to take medications not prescribed for them, and it is also true that transferring ownership of those medications to a third party would be illegal, but it doesn&#039;t make sense to require someone to account for belongings that belong to themselves.  This is why as a Hospice RN I explain to families that I can&#039;t remove medications from the home after someone is deceased - I have no method for accounting for the medications.  Instead we educate families how to destroy or donate medications.  They don&#039;t belong to me and they don&#039;t belong to the state.  The police in this case acted far, far outside their scope, although people familiar with notable abuses of police power are not likely to be surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medication is the property of the person for whom it was prescribed &#8211; upon their death the medications are the property of the next of kin.  Now, it may be true that it would be inadvisable for that person to take medications not prescribed for them, and it is also true that transferring ownership of those medications to a third party would be illegal, but it doesn&#8217;t make sense to require someone to account for belongings that belong to themselves.  This is why as a Hospice RN I explain to families that I can&#8217;t remove medications from the home after someone is deceased &#8211; I have no method for accounting for the medications.  Instead we educate families how to destroy or donate medications.  They don&#8217;t belong to me and they don&#8217;t belong to the state.  The police in this case acted far, far outside their scope, although people familiar with notable abuses of police power are not likely to be surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murphy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623948</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hospice RN here - Hospice agencies themselves usually don&#039;t reclaim leftover medications - this may vary state by state but there are problems with this practice including logistics, accountability, and sanitation.  In my area, we tell patients to donate the medications to the local Haitian charity, who sanitize the medications and ship them over to Haiti (keep in mind there is a global opiate shortage!).

The actions of the police in this case are unconscionable - fun fact to keep in mind - Opiates can be flushed down the toilet without fear of polluting the water.  Alternatively you can destroy them (and any other med) by mixing it with bleach and kitty litter or coffee grounds (do this outdoors or by an open window, it&#039;s an exothermic reaction in the case of opiates!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hospice RN here &#8211; Hospice agencies themselves usually don&#8217;t reclaim leftover medications &#8211; this may vary state by state but there are problems with this practice including logistics, accountability, and sanitation.  In my area, we tell patients to donate the medications to the local Haitian charity, who sanitize the medications and ship them over to Haiti (keep in mind there is a global opiate shortage!).</p>
<p>The actions of the police in this case are unconscionable &#8211; fun fact to keep in mind &#8211; Opiates can be flushed down the toilet without fear of polluting the water.  Alternatively you can destroy them (and any other med) by mixing it with bleach and kitty litter or coffee grounds (do this outdoors or by an open window, it&#8217;s an exothermic reaction in the case of opiates!)</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal Davis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623950</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not unusual.  If someone dies at home, you notify law enforcement and they will send someone to the house.  Once the officer is reasonably sure that the death was from natural causes, the very next item on the list is to round up the meds.  Happened to me in Texas when my father died, although the officer was very polite and did not ransack anything. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not unusual.  If someone dies at home, you notify law enforcement and they will send someone to the house.  Once the officer is reasonably sure that the death was from natural causes, the very next item on the list is to round up the meds.  Happened to me in Texas when my father died, although the officer was very polite and did not ransack anything. </p>
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		<title>By: jennix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623932</link>
		<dc:creator>jennix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drugs are bad, mmm&#039;kay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drugs are bad, mmm&#8217;kay?</p>
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		<title>By: snowmentality</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623920</link>
		<dc:creator>snowmentality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;m so glad that didn&#039;t happen when my grandfather died. I can&#039;t imagine what that would have done to my grandmother.

I&#039;m pretty sure my grandmother just returned the leftover emergency painkillers/sedatives to the hospice organization, which had procured them in the first place (and to whom we had to report when my grandfather used any of the meds).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;m so glad that didn&#8217;t happen when my grandfather died. I can&#8217;t imagine what that would have done to my grandmother.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure my grandmother just returned the leftover emergency painkillers/sedatives to the hospice organization, which had procured them in the first place (and to whom we had to report when my grandfather used any of the meds).</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween_Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623917</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween_Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there&#039;s definitely something else going on there. If it were a matter of wanting to secure the meds so that they wouldn&#039;t be resold or abused by the survivors or other responders, the police would be more open about it. They&#039;ve got someone in 911 dispatch or the ambulance service tipping them off. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s definitely something else going on there. If it were a matter of wanting to secure the meds so that they wouldn&#8217;t be resold or abused by the survivors or other responders, the police would be more open about it. They&#8217;ve got someone in 911 dispatch or the ambulance service tipping them off. </p>
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		<title>By: welcomeabored</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623916</link>
		<dc:creator>welcomeabored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A story like that just undermines everything we&#039;ve been told of late about how to properly dispose of unused prescription drugs.  Why bother to ask the public to be responsible, if they&#039;re just going to treat those same adults like criminally- inclined children?


 http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/45083.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A story like that just undermines everything we&#8217;ve been told of late about how to properly dispose of unused prescription drugs.  Why bother to ask the public to be responsible, if they&#8217;re just going to treat those same adults like criminally- inclined children?</p>
<p> http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/45083.html</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/09/police-raid-home-moments-after.html#comment-1623913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had a certain amount of opiate pain-killers left over after surgeries, along with hydrocodone for cough control after that lung infection. 
Same thing: getting rid of it when you know someone must be out there who needs it and can&#039;t afford it feels really weird, but sure isn&#039;t stuff we want around. And really, there&#039;s the whole open-package thing, which makes second-hand medication a little weird anyways.

But we&#039;ve kept the dog ends of some of the lower grade stuff (T3s) and that turned out to be useful more than once.

The percocets went straight down the toilet once I was done with them though (shudder)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had a certain amount of opiate pain-killers left over after surgeries, along with hydrocodone for cough control after that lung infection.<br />
Same thing: getting rid of it when you know someone must be out there who needs it and can&#8217;t afford it feels really weird, but sure isn&#8217;t stuff we want around. And really, there&#8217;s the whole open-package thing, which makes second-hand medication a little weird anyways.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;ve kept the dog ends of some of the lower grade stuff (T3s) and that turned out to be useful more than once.</p>
<p>The percocets went straight down the toilet once I was done with them though (shudder)</p>
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