Comments on: We (probably) found the Higgs Boson. Now what? http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 02:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: beforewepost http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1626987 beforewepost Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1626987 Perhaps.  Feynman posed the problem that if a graviton existed, then why didn't planets whiz away from the sun? The basic idea is that as the planet moves through space, its front side  hits more gravitons than the trailing side just as a windshield hits more raindrops than the rear window. More graviton interactions at the front side would accelerate the planet forwards which would move it away from the sun.  But if a graviton doesn't exist then how does matter warp space time? Perhaps. 

Feynman posed the problem that if a graviton existed, then why didn’t planets whiz away from the sun? The basic idea is that as the planet moves through space, its front side  hits more gravitons than the trailing side just as a windshield hits more raindrops than the rear window. More graviton interactions at the front side would accelerate the planet forwards which would move it away from the sun.  But if a graviton doesn’t exist then how does matter warp space time?

]]> By: Bo Treat http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1626720 Bo Treat Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1626720 maybe all forms of matter are attracted to their common molecule like water, and mercury.  its just to what super infinitesimal amount that we can't see or begin to measure, also take into account that other greater forces over take the smaller ones rendering them even more impossible to detect. maybe all forms of matter are attracted to their common molecule like water, and mercury.  its just to what super infinitesimal amount that we can’t see or begin to measure, also take into account that other greater forces over take the smaller ones rendering them even more impossible to detect.

]]> By: CLamb http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625589 CLamb Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625589 Tax it--a far better solution than minting a $1,000,000,000,000 coin. Tax it–a far better solution than minting a $1,000,000,000,000 coin.

]]> By: Buckles B http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625535 Buckles B Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625535 Now we write a song about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etp0KKnLu0Y Now we write a song about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etp0KKnLu0Y

]]> By: NelC http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625349 NelC Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625349 Apropos of nothing in particular: Nick Cave's new album includes a song called 'The Higgs Boson Blues' which he'd just finished recording when the discovery was announced. http://audioboo.fm/boos/1149569-find-out-how-the-higgs-boson-particle-helped-nick-cave-make-his-new-album Apropos of nothing in particular: Nick Cave’s new album includes a song called ‘The Higgs Boson Blues’ which he’d just finished recording when the discovery was announced.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1149569-find-out-how-the-higgs-boson-particle-helped-nick-cave-make-his-new-album

]]> By: mediaferret http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625348 mediaferret Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625348 Next up: Find the boson nova. Brazil is a good place to start looking. Next up: Find the boson nova. Brazil is a good place to start looking.

]]> By: Handletag http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625216 Handletag Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625216 You know what  else  needs to be discovered?  How some people can  read the phrase "if it looks like we've got it all figured out" and completely miss the word "if". You know what  else  needs to be discovered?  How some people can  read the phrase “if it looks like we’ve got it all figured out” and completely miss the word “if”.

]]> By: ImmutableMichael http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625205 ImmutableMichael Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625205 Wait, FSM is polytheistic (polypasta, perhaps)? Wait, FSM is polytheistic (polypasta, perhaps)?

]]> By: Ian Brewer http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625159 Ian Brewer Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625159 We all know that's really an FSM hatchling. We all know that’s really an FSM hatchling.

]]> By: mrtut http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625133 mrtut Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625133 Behold the Higgs Boson's awesome ability to cause dataviz motion blur!  Let us all pray it does't leap out of the image frame... Behold the Higgs Boson’s awesome ability to cause dataviz motion blur! 

Let us all pray it does’t leap out of the image frame…

]]> By: awjt http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625128 awjt Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625128 Nice try, Sauron. Nice try, Sauron.

]]> By: awjt http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625127 awjt Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625127 Alas, only particles of it returned, and the sum of their masses does not equal the energy expended in their creation. Alas, only particles of it returned, and the sum of their masses does not equal the energy expended in their creation.

]]> By: bluelight74 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625107 bluelight74 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625107 How can you say The Standard Model solves everything in one post and then say that the standard Model can't explain gravity. ( we have a mathematical model for its behavior it but we do not know how or what it is truly) I think it's pretty ridiculous to ever say that "there's nothing left to discover"  Hell we can't even get past the chemical rocket stage of space travel.  We've barely scratched the surface of discovery. How can you say The Standard Model solves everything in one post and then say that the standard Model can’t explain gravity. ( we have a mathematical model for its behavior it but we do not know how or what it is truly) I think it’s pretty ridiculous to ever say that “there’s nothing left to discover”  Hell we can’t even get past the chemical rocket stage of space travel.  We’ve barely scratched the surface of discovery.

]]> By: Maggie Koerth-Baker http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625080 Maggie Koerth-Baker Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625080 The impression I've gotten is more of a charitable version of that.  There are legit things that the Standard Model doesn't explain and that bugs people.  It would be a lot more fun for physicists if the Standard Model were wrong, because there'd be more to discover.  There's some concern that funding will dry up if it looks like we've got it all figured out and the Standard Model solves everything.  Combine. Swish around with varying levels of disgruntledness. Serve.  The impression I’ve gotten is more of a charitable version of that. 
There are legit things that the Standard Model doesn’t explain and that bugs people. 
It would be a lot more fun for physicists if the Standard Model were wrong, because there’d be more to discover. 
There’s some concern that funding will dry up if it looks like we’ve got it all figured out and the Standard Model solves everything. 

Combine. Swish around with varying levels of disgruntledness. Serve. 

]]> By: jandrese http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625049 jandrese Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625049 One impression I've gotten from high energy physicists is that a lot of people don't like Standard Model, and think that it's probably wrong, but are constantly annoyed that its predictions hold true in experiments.  Is this accurate or are there just a lot of grumpy sourpusses with their own theories that have not held up or simply not tested?  One impression I’ve gotten from high energy physicists is that a lot of people don’t like Standard Model, and think that it’s probably wrong, but are constantly annoyed that its predictions hold true in experiments. 

Is this accurate or are there just a lot of grumpy sourpusses with their own theories that have not held up or simply not tested? 

]]> By: Eark_the_Bunny http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625042 Eark_the_Bunny Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625042 What is next is obvious.  They should put an ad in the paper saying:  FOUND  HIGGS BOSON.  Will Mister Higgs please contact us at 555-5555 so we can return his lost boson. What is next is obvious.  They should put an ad in the paper saying:  FOUND  HIGGS BOSON.  Will Mister Higgs please contact us at 555-5555 so we can return his lost boson.

]]> By: Christopher Ashton http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1625004 Christopher Ashton Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1625004 Great show!  I heard some of it this morning, and just finished up the rest.  Thanks for posting it. Great show!  I heard some of it this morning, and just finished up the rest.  Thanks for posting it.

]]> By: Luther Blissett http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624993 Luther Blissett Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624993 Without having listened to the piece: what about asking someone working at the LHC who's designing some of the next major grant proposals? I guess: pas de science sans Comic Sans. Without having listened to the piece: what about asking someone working at the LHC who’s designing some of the next major grant proposals?

I guess: pas de science sans Comic Sans.

]]> By: dave3 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624984 dave3 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624984 If you've truly found the Higgs Boson, set if free. If it comes back to you, you'll know that it's true love. If you’ve truly found the Higgs Boson, set if free. If it comes back to you, you’ll know that it’s true love.

]]> By: peregrinus http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624971 peregrinus Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624971  Now?  Step into the loving embrace of His Noodly Appendage, and acknowledge His real name.  Now?  Step into the loving embrace of His Noodly Appendage, and acknowledge His real name.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624966 oasisob1 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624966 Tranquilize it, chain it up and bring it home to put on display to thousands of screaming fans. Seriously, what could go wrong? Tranquilize it, chain it up and bring it home to put on display to thousands of screaming fans. Seriously, what could go wrong?

]]> By: Art http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624960 Art Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624960 Now what?  Deep fry it. Of course. Now what?  Deep fry it. Of course.

]]> By: niktemadur http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624924 niktemadur Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624924 <blockquote>We (probably) found the Higgs Boson. Now what?</blockquote>Now we kick back and relax. Seriously, isn't SUSY next on the tick list?

We (probably) found the Higgs Boson. Now what?

Now we kick back and relax.
Seriously, isn’t SUSY next on the tick list?

]]> By: Maggie Koerth-Baker http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624884 Maggie Koerth-Baker Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624884 Nope. We talk about that in the radio bit, but that's one of the problems with the Standard Model. No connection between gravity and the quantum world. (At least until somebody finds those hypothetical gravitons) Nope. We talk about that in the radio bit, but that’s one of the problems with the Standard Model. No connection between gravity and the quantum world. (At least until somebody finds those hypothetical gravitons)

]]> By: beforewepost http://boingboing.net/2013/01/10/we-probably-found-the-higgs.html#comment-1624875 beforewepost Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=205088#comment-1624875 Where does the graviton fit in the standard model? The Higgs gives particles their mass - does it also account for why mass is attracted to mass? Where does the graviton fit in the standard model? The Higgs gives particles their mass – does it also account for why mass is attracted to mass?

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