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	<title>Comments on: Preview of Verizon&#039;s version of America&#039;s &quot;six strikes&quot; copyright enforcement&#160;scheme</title>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1629028</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAA is paid by CCI which is funding 50-50 by the**AA&#039;s and the ISPs.
So your paying to subsidize corporate law, and you have to pay a $35 fee to challenge anything they allege using technology vetted as being perfect in a laboratory setting by a tech &quot;firm&quot; who at one point was lobbying for the RIAA and stands to be back on the payroll providing &quot;oversight&quot; of this system in the long term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAA is paid by CCI which is funding 50-50 by the**AA&#8217;s and the ISPs.<br />
So your paying to subsidize corporate law, and you have to pay a $35 fee to challenge anything they allege using technology vetted as being perfect in a laboratory setting by a tech &#8220;firm&#8221; who at one point was lobbying for the RIAA and stands to be back on the payroll providing &#8220;oversight&#8221; of this system in the long term.</p>
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		<title>By: Peaked</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627991</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is that the physical cabling (and sometimes wireless towers) that enables Internet access is owned by a small number of (local, regional, bigger) monopolies and is very expensive to duplicate.Small ISPs pay to use the infrastructure owned by larger ones and are generally at their mercy if and when the larger ISP decides to impose things like this in their contracts. To create a truly independent small ISP requires vast amounts of capital to spend on physical infrastructure, the cost of which often varies based on your lobbying power (cheaper right-of-way, government subsidies, etc. that the larger players have benefited from).

There have already been instances of infrastructure owners imposing things like this (ant-bittorrent traffic shaping, if I recall correctly) on their small ISP clients. Small ISPs generally have a bit more bargaining power than an individual subscriber, but not much more, and they generally don&#039;t hold out long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is that the physical cabling (and sometimes wireless towers) that enables Internet access is owned by a small number of (local, regional, bigger) monopolies and is very expensive to duplicate.Small ISPs pay to use the infrastructure owned by larger ones and are generally at their mercy if and when the larger ISP decides to impose things like this in their contracts. To create a truly independent small ISP requires vast amounts of capital to spend on physical infrastructure, the cost of which often varies based on your lobbying power (cheaper right-of-way, government subsidies, etc. that the larger players have benefited from).</p>
<p>There have already been instances of infrastructure owners imposing things like this (ant-bittorrent traffic shaping, if I recall correctly) on their small ISP clients. Small ISPs generally have a bit more bargaining power than an individual subscriber, but not much more, and they generally don&#8217;t hold out long.</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627916</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which one of those isn&#039;t participating in this corporate law scam?  I&#039;m guessing Astound.
SF is not the rest of the country, and while you have choice in many areas there is no choice.  There are entire areas that are by law only serviced by 1 carrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which one of those isn&#8217;t participating in this corporate law scam?  I&#8217;m guessing Astound.<br />
SF is not the rest of the country, and while you have choice in many areas there is no choice.  There are entire areas that are by law only serviced by 1 carrier.</p>
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		<title>By: Urbane_Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627887</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane_Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Exactly. We&#039;ve allowed corporations to become monopolies...Not only in ISPs, but in Medical Coverage, News Media and many other sectors...And we allow them to pretend there is real competition. Seriously, is there any real competition in say cellphones? Go figure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Exactly. We&#8217;ve allowed corporations to become monopolies&#8230;Not only in ISPs, but in Medical Coverage, News Media and many other sectors&#8230;And we allow them to pretend there is real competition. Seriously, is there any real competition in say cellphones? Go figure. </p>
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		<title>By: Urbane_Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627881</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane_Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> yes it is f*cked. But it isn&#039;t new. My experience was 1 1/2 years ago and after digging, I found others that had had their service turned off a year or so before. 

I&#039;m fascinated that any business will play policeman for another company without verification and proof of charges. I know for example if your auto insurer cancelled your policy because a neighbor said you were say making bombs, they certainly would not be allowed to cancel your policy without proof. 

I was gob-smacked when it happened to me and nobody in my family pirated anything. Welcome to 1984. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> yes it is f*cked. But it isn&#8217;t new. My experience was 1 1/2 years ago and after digging, I found others that had had their service turned off a year or so before. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fascinated that any business will play policeman for another company without verification and proof of charges. I know for example if your auto insurer cancelled your policy because a neighbor said you were say making bombs, they certainly would not be allowed to cancel your policy without proof. </p>
<p>I was gob-smacked when it happened to me and nobody in my family pirated anything. Welcome to 1984. </p>
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		<title>By: Urbane_Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627876</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane_Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Your ISP will tell you to not share your connection with anyone. They don;t care who is at fault. been there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Your ISP will tell you to not share your connection with anyone. They don;t care who is at fault. been there. </p>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627802</link>
		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is why it *used* to be illegal to own certain combinations of businesses in the same geographic region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is why it *used* to be illegal to own certain combinations of businesses in the same geographic region.</p>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627789</link>
		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly yes. In the US, at least, it does in many places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly yes. In the US, at least, it does in many places.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaven</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627786</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it &quot;chickenshit step&quot; or is it massive corporate bribery/business deal by Big Hollywood?  Or is it that they&#039;re all owned by the same huge company in the end?  I can&#039;t imagine the ISPs would go for this unless it was somehow very much in their own interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it &#8220;chickenshit step&#8221; or is it massive corporate bribery/business deal by Big Hollywood?  Or is it that they&#8217;re all owned by the same huge company in the end?  I can&#8217;t imagine the ISPs would go for this unless it was somehow very much in their own interests.</p>
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		<title>By: artbyjcm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627776</link>
		<dc:creator>artbyjcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a concern of mine as well. I tried looking up to set up a VPN and I&#039;m a bit intimidated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a concern of mine as well. I tried looking up to set up a VPN and I&#8217;m a bit intimidated.</p>
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		<title>By: artbyjcm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627772</link>
		<dc:creator>artbyjcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget which ones are doing the strikes policy too... most of the ones you just listed. Astound is the one I don&#039;t think is going to do it.

Where I live, northern san diego county there is comcast.

If I move a mile south I can get time warner instead, but not comcast there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget which ones are doing the strikes policy too&#8230; most of the ones you just listed. Astound is the one I don&#8217;t think is going to do it.</p>
<p>Where I live, northern san diego county there is comcast.</p>
<p>If I move a mile south I can get time warner instead, but not comcast there.</p>
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		<title>By: Casual_Economy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627693</link>
		<dc:creator>Casual_Economy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That is totally F!*%ed. But again, in the long term, unless there is legislation requiring this sort of draconian shit, I don&#039;t see how proliferation of independent ISPs won&#039;t render this whole thing a moot point in another decade, and this is an opinion I&#039;ve never seen discussed. Maybe Cory Doctorow could enlighten us here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That is totally F!*%ed. But again, in the long term, unless there is legislation requiring this sort of draconian shit, I don&#8217;t see how proliferation of independent ISPs won&#8217;t render this whole thing a moot point in another decade, and this is an opinion I&#8217;ve never seen discussed. Maybe Cory Doctorow could enlighten us here?</p>
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		<title>By: Urbane_Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627689</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane_Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> According to the discussion I had with Suddenlink, they are required to do this. They lied. Suddenlink and Verizon et al, willingly signed onto this Media Industry program. You can read more here: http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/07/isps_agree_to_six_strikes_copy.php 

 .. Oh and ignore the part where you can appeal the red flag. I&#039;m pretty legal and technically savvy. I demanded and received &#039;proof of our transgression&#039;... A screen shot showing what and when we supposedly pirated. No way to trace it or disprove it. After arguing with their management, I was told I could contest it, but if I did, there&#039;s always the possibility that the Media Company would chose to prosecute me and the fines could be substantial, like the lady that uploaded 3 songs to a Bit Torrent and is now fighting a several million dollar judgement. 

So why are they bothering with this? Why are they not standing up for their customers? If I had to guess, it&#039;s because the Media Corps can withhold movies and music from their cable franchises. What would Comcast be without Disney etc. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> According to the discussion I had with Suddenlink, they are required to do this. They lied. Suddenlink and Verizon et al, willingly signed onto this Media Industry program. You can read more here: <a href="http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/07/isps_agree_to_six_strikes_copy.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/07/isps_agree_to_six_strikes_copy.php</a> </p>
<p> .. Oh and ignore the part where you can appeal the red flag. I&#8217;m pretty legal and technically savvy. I demanded and received &#8216;proof of our transgression&#8217;&#8230; A screen shot showing what and when we supposedly pirated. No way to trace it or disprove it. After arguing with their management, I was told I could contest it, but if I did, there&#8217;s always the possibility that the Media Company would chose to prosecute me and the fines could be substantial, like the lady that uploaded 3 songs to a Bit Torrent and is now fighting a several million dollar judgement. </p>
<p>So why are they bothering with this? Why are they not standing up for their customers? If I had to guess, it&#8217;s because the Media Corps can withhold movies and music from their cable franchises. What would Comcast be without Disney etc. </p>
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		<title>By: Casual_Economy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627657</link>
		<dc:creator>Casual_Economy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I don&#039;t understand? What &quot;program?&quot; This is a voluntary thing that ISPs are doing. Am I missing something? Do ISPs face prosecution if they don&#039;t sign on? I&#039;m still not getting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I don&#8217;t understand? What &#8220;program?&#8221; This is a voluntary thing that ISPs are doing. Am I missing something? Do ISPs face prosecution if they don&#8217;t sign on? I&#8217;m still not getting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Urbane_Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627655</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane_Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You have a small provider. Once the big providers, Comcast, Verizon and Suddenlink all sign on to the program, the little ones will fall into line as well. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You have a small provider. Once the big providers, Comcast, Verizon and Suddenlink all sign on to the program, the little ones will fall into line as well. </p>
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		<title>By: Urbane_Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627652</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane_Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy was I surprised when Suddenlink turned off my internet during the trading day because someone downloaded a copy of some crappy teen movie that you can buy used for $5 on Amazon. In retrospect, I&#039;m guessing it was one of my son&#039;s friends during a sleep-over... We don&#039;t pirate anything, but there is no way to dispute the claim. All a big company has to do is flag your account. And Suddenlink only allows 2 &#039;red flags&#039;. The 3rd time they disconnect your service. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy was I surprised when Suddenlink turned off my internet during the trading day because someone downloaded a copy of some crappy teen movie that you can buy used for $5 on Amazon. In retrospect, I&#8217;m guessing it was one of my son&#8217;s friends during a sleep-over&#8230; We don&#8217;t pirate anything, but there is no way to dispute the claim. All a big company has to do is flag your account. And Suddenlink only allows 2 &#8216;red flags&#8217;. The 3rd time they disconnect your service. </p>
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		<title>By: Casual_Economy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627620</link>
		<dc:creator>Casual_Economy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please explain to me why ISPs (like all other technology historically) will not become so common an ubiquitous that suddenly ANYONE can start their own ISP and thus render the monopolistic dealings of the Verizons of the world obsolete? 

For instance, I use Astound, which is a small-ish company that serves about 325k people along the West Coast. They do not practice any of this shady crap. How difficult would it be to start another one? Probably not very difficult. Unless the US govt passes laws that REQUIRE ALL ISPs to do this kind of stuff, who cares if Verizon does it? There will instantly be a demand for a new ISP and one will surely start because it should (if internet follows trends of all technology) get cheaper and cheaper and more accessible to start an ISP.

Can someone tell me why this is not the case? It&#039;s an argument I rarely see presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain to me why ISPs (like all other technology historically) will not become so common an ubiquitous that suddenly ANYONE can start their own ISP and thus render the monopolistic dealings of the Verizons of the world obsolete? </p>
<p>For instance, I use Astound, which is a small-ish company that serves about 325k people along the West Coast. They do not practice any of this shady crap. How difficult would it be to start another one? Probably not very difficult. Unless the US govt passes laws that REQUIRE ALL ISPs to do this kind of stuff, who cares if Verizon does it? There will instantly be a demand for a new ISP and one will surely start because it should (if internet follows trends of all technology) get cheaper and cheaper and more accessible to start an ISP.</p>
<p>Can someone tell me why this is not the case? It&#8217;s an argument I rarely see presented.</p>
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		<title>By: Casual_Economy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casual_Economy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yes it is, at least in San Francisco. I can choose Comcast, Verizon, AT&amp;T, Astound (which I use), and I&#039;m sure there are others as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yes it is, at least in San Francisco. I can choose Comcast, Verizon, AT&amp;T, Astound (which I use), and I&#8217;m sure there are others as well.</p>
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		<title>By: ryukage99</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryukage99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder has Ethical Fan has posted &quot;his&quot; shit here yet. I found out who &quot;he really is. Mark My word Ethical Fan, You&#039;re corporate shill or a phony You&#039;re gonna be exposed for all misinformation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder has Ethical Fan has posted &#8220;his&#8221; shit here yet. I found out who &#8220;he really is. Mark My word Ethical Fan, You&#8217;re corporate shill or a phony You&#8217;re gonna be exposed for all misinformation. </p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Exactly.  Game those m-f-ers right back and beat them at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Exactly.  Game those m-f-ers right back and beat them at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Nullstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Nullstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would encourage everyone to at least temporarily cancel service upon  receipt of such a  notice.  If you have no local alternative but can last a month without service (it will be good for you!) , you&#039;ll get a 6 month discounted service when you re-up.  Who knows.... perhaps your strike tally will be reset as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would encourage everyone to at least temporarily cancel service upon  receipt of such a  notice.  If you have no local alternative but can last a month without service (it will be good for you!) , you&#8217;ll get a 6 month discounted service when you re-up.  Who knows&#8230;. perhaps your strike tally will be reset as well.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why evaluate laws on justice-related grounds when you can evaluate them entirely in light of your self interest(and an amusingly naive assumption that the system will actually work, and won&#039;t end up flagging you)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why evaluate laws on justice-related grounds when you can evaluate them entirely in light of your self interest(and an amusingly naive assumption that the system will actually work, and won&#8217;t end up flagging you)?</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627495</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You SHARE your wi-fi? That sounds like... 
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Socialism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You SHARE your wi-fi? That sounds like&#8230; <br />
&#8230;<br />
Socialism!</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627493</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m tempted to type &quot;get off my lawn&quot; it turns out I agree with you 100% instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m tempted to type &#8220;get off my lawn&#8221; it turns out I agree with you 100% instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Jambe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627464</link>
		<dc:creator>Jambe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scofflaw.  Nice word.</description>
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		<title>By: ethicalcannibal</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627353</link>
		<dc:creator>ethicalcannibal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How useful is a VPN for this, and would it be noob friendly to set up? </description>
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		<title>By: ethicalcannibal</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627351</link>
		<dc:creator>ethicalcannibal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just going to point that out. Who pays the arbitration people? Verizon? Sure, that will be fair. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just going to point that out. Who pays the arbitration people? Verizon? Sure, that will be fair. </p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627346</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in an apartment with three other adults in a city.  We have wi-fi.  We have a constant stream of guests.  My name is on the bill.  There is no fucking way I can police dozens of people, but as I said, my name is on the god damn bill.  I can&#039;t be without internet.  My job demands it, my sanity demands it, and my social life demands it.  I don&#039;t have any need to pirate, but I can&#039;t risk someone else pirating and getting me cut off or some stupid algorithmic spying on my internet connection and deciding that it didn&#039;t like the name of a legal download.   This &quot;six strikes&quot; shit pisses me off beyond all words.

Thankfully, I live on the Cambridge side of Boston.  Boston, being about as big of a nerd nirvana as one can hope for, has a grand total of two, occasionally 3, viable ISPs.  We have Verizon, Comcast, and sweet beloved RCN.  RCN offers the juice at a reasonable speed, at a reasonable cost, and has not signed on to this bull shit.

Many other people are not so lucky as to actually have an option.  For you my friends, get a VPN.  We might look back on this as a minor blessing.  VPN net code is going to get better and beefier because of this crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in an apartment with three other adults in a city.  We have wi-fi.  We have a constant stream of guests.  My name is on the bill.  There is no fucking way I can police dozens of people, but as I said, my name is on the god damn bill.  I can&#8217;t be without internet.  My job demands it, my sanity demands it, and my social life demands it.  I don&#8217;t have any need to pirate, but I can&#8217;t risk someone else pirating and getting me cut off or some stupid algorithmic spying on my internet connection and deciding that it didn&#8217;t like the name of a legal download.   This &#8220;six strikes&#8221; shit pisses me off beyond all words.</p>
<p>Thankfully, I live on the Cambridge side of Boston.  Boston, being about as big of a nerd nirvana as one can hope for, has a grand total of two, occasionally 3, viable ISPs.  We have Verizon, Comcast, and sweet beloved RCN.  RCN offers the juice at a reasonable speed, at a reasonable cost, and has not signed on to this bull shit.</p>
<p>Many other people are not so lucky as to actually have an option.  For you my friends, get a VPN.  We might look back on this as a minor blessing.  VPN net code is going to get better and beefier because of this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: machinestate</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627327</link>
		<dc:creator>machinestate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m being selfish here, but this six strikes is not a problem for me.  I stopped paying for new music and movies years ago.  And I recently stopped downloading it for free as well, because there&#039;s just no point now that I&#039;ve obtained anything I actually want.  I&#039;ve deleted virtually all content produced after the early 2000&#039;s because it&#039;s ALL FUCKING GARBAGE.  

And if the cow jumps over the moon, the dish runs away with the spoon, and big content actually shits out something worth keeping someday, then I still have the option of either buying a copy, or generating mp4s of movies from a redbox rental and mp3s from youtube - depending on its entertainment value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m being selfish here, but this six strikes is not a problem for me.  I stopped paying for new music and movies years ago.  And I recently stopped downloading it for free as well, because there&#8217;s just no point now that I&#8217;ve obtained anything I actually want.  I&#8217;ve deleted virtually all content produced after the early 2000&#8242;s because it&#8217;s ALL FUCKING GARBAGE.  </p>
<p>And if the cow jumps over the moon, the dish runs away with the spoon, and big content actually shits out something worth keeping someday, then I still have the option of either buying a copy, or generating mp4s of movies from a redbox rental and mp3s from youtube &#8211; depending on its entertainment value.</p>
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		<title>By: machinestate</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/13/preview-of-verizons-version.html#comment-1627322</link>
		<dc:creator>machinestate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too poor, too cheap, or just too damn savvy to pay a dime for some unoriginal remake, 3D reboot, thoughtless adaptation or horrid sequel that doesn&#039;t satisfy.  

Maybe some good can still come of this.  Perhaps these draconian &quot;laws&quot; will finally force Hollywood to stop scapegoating piracy for falling revenues and serve to rub their noses in their own shit-content stains.  </description>
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<p>Maybe some good can still come of this.  Perhaps these draconian &#8220;laws&#8221; will finally force Hollywood to stop scapegoating piracy for falling revenues and serve to rub their noses in their own shit-content stains.  </p>
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