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	<title>Comments on: Australia legalizes violent video&#160;games</title>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1629944</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was responding to Antinous&#039; comments regarding refugee policy in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was responding to Antinous&#8217; comments regarding refugee policy in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnamon267</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628357</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnamon267</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmm... You&#039;ve always been able to buy violent games and they have always been legal. To have a title like this is idiotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmm&#8230; You&#8217;ve always been able to buy violent games and they have always been legal. To have a title like this is idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628233</link>
		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I could have proposed to compare and contrast American and Australian attitudes toward violent video games, both of which have recently been in the news.  But it&#039;s not as funny that way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I could have proposed to compare and contrast American and Australian attitudes toward violent video games, both of which have recently been in the news.  But it&#8217;s not as funny that way. </p>
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		<title>By: Churba S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Churba S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Not really. I&#039;ve got a police station about a klick half down the road, all I&#039;d have to do would be swing by with the appropriate ID, fill out the paperwork, pay the fee, BLAM, after a bit of a short wait, I&#039;m licensed. Purchase permits are only slightly harder to get.

However, I will note - It&#039;s easier for me to get a .308 rifle than it is to get an airsoft gun here. Because airsoft guns are all but outlawed, and are treated as real firearms by the law. As in, you will go to jail for a number of years, for owning a childeren&#039;s toy.

Our gun laws are kinda really fucked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Not really. I&#8217;ve got a police station about a klick half down the road, all I&#8217;d have to do would be swing by with the appropriate ID, fill out the paperwork, pay the fee, BLAM, after a bit of a short wait, I&#8217;m licensed. Purchase permits are only slightly harder to get.</p>
<p>However, I will note &#8211; It&#8217;s easier for me to get a .308 rifle than it is to get an airsoft gun here. Because airsoft guns are all but outlawed, and are treated as real firearms by the law. As in, you will go to jail for a number of years, for owning a childeren&#8217;s toy.</p>
<p>Our gun laws are kinda really fucked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Churba S</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628104</link>
		<dc:creator>Churba S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I prefer to think that Syndicate was actually banned for dangerous levels of bloom. Seriously, it was out of control, I think that game gave me cataracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I prefer to think that Syndicate was actually banned for dangerous levels of bloom. Seriously, it was out of control, I think that game gave me cataracts.</p>
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		<title>By: Churba S</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628097</link>
		<dc:creator>Churba S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually &quot;Did this&quot; in June last year, six months ago, it&#039;s just that it came into effect on the first of January, this year.

Or, to paraphrase the great scholar and prophet Black Dynamite: We legislated that shit before you even walked in the room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually &#8220;Did this&#8221; in June last year, six months ago, it&#8217;s just that it came into effect on the first of January, this year.</p>
<p>Or, to paraphrase the great scholar and prophet Black Dynamite: We legislated that shit before you even walked in the room!</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628073</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, we were certainly more prude about sex in videogames than violence. Still an R18+ category is a definite win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, we were certainly more prude about sex in videogames than violence. Still an R18+ category is a definite win.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628068</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Australia shouldn&#039;t follow the rest of the developed world in having an adult classification for videogames because the on the opposite side of the world (with far more liberal gun laws) keep shooting each other? 

Your logic, isn&#039;t logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Australia shouldn&#8217;t follow the rest of the developed world in having an adult classification for videogames because the on the opposite side of the world (with far more liberal gun laws) keep shooting each other? </p>
<p>Your logic, isn&#8217;t logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1628064</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t this post fall under the category of blatantly bringing politics utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand? 

The sort of thing that gets posts removed during any talk of US elections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t this post fall under the category of blatantly bringing politics utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand? </p>
<p>The sort of thing that gets posts removed during any talk of US elections?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hayes-Kossmann</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627971</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hayes-Kossmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Glitta, I missed that one.

For people who believe Australia is a puritanical country where no violence is allowed on our screens, here&#039;s a mostly complete list of games banned or censored in Australia due to extreme violence:


50 Cent: Bulletproof, Dark Sector, Dreamweb, The Getaway, Left 4 Dead 2, Manhunt, Mortal Kombat 2011, NecroVisioN, Postal 1&amp;2, Phantamasmagoria, Reservoir Dogs, Shellshock 2, Silent Hill: Homecoming, Soldier of Fortune, Syndicate 2012.

Eight of those were later released under MA15+ guidelines thanks to minor cuts. Only two of those games were worth playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Glitta, I missed that one.</p>
<p>For people who believe Australia is a puritanical country where no violence is allowed on our screens, here&#8217;s a mostly complete list of games banned or censored in Australia due to extreme violence:</p>
<p>50 Cent: Bulletproof, Dark Sector, Dreamweb, The Getaway, Left 4 Dead 2, Manhunt, Mortal Kombat 2011, NecroVisioN, Postal 1&amp;2, Phantamasmagoria, Reservoir Dogs, Shellshock 2, Silent Hill: Homecoming, Soldier of Fortune, Syndicate 2012.</p>
<p>Eight of those were later released under MA15+ guidelines thanks to minor cuts. Only two of those games were worth playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Stickarm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627969</link>
		<dc:creator>Stickarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next stop, Guruhdome!

...Actually, now you&#039;ve got me wondering if there are Malaysian post-apocalyptic movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next stop, Guruhdome!</p>
<p>&#8230;Actually, now you&#8217;ve got me wondering if there are Malaysian post-apocalyptic movies.</p>
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		<title>By: robuluz</title>
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		<dc:creator>robuluz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuckin&#039; yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuckin&#8217; yay!</p>
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		<title>By: glittalogik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627929</link>
		<dc:creator>glittalogik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if it was a censorship or editorial decision,  but GTA4 also had the viewing angle on sex with hookers in the car locked to the rear of the vehicle, although this was removed for the Liberty City Stories DLCs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it was a censorship or editorial decision,  but GTA4 also had the viewing angle on sex with hookers in the car locked to the rear of the vehicle, although this was removed for the Liberty City Stories DLCs.</p>
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		<title>By: glittalogik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627923</link>
		<dc:creator>glittalogik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was possibly the most charitable thing I&#039;ve seen today apart from the Jay Lake fundraiser. Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was possibly the most charitable thing I&#8217;ve seen today apart from the Jay Lake fundraiser. Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627921</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thunderdome&#039;s been cancelled.  They&#039;ve just shipped all the refugees off to Malaysia instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thunderdome&#8217;s been cancelled.  They&#8217;ve just shipped all the refugees off to Malaysia instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627847</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian legislators aren&#039;t going to care much about US politics, and in any event this change has been on the way for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australian legislators aren&#8217;t going to care much about US politics, and in any event this change has been on the way for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hayes-Kossmann</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627841</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hayes-Kossmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to be the voice of reason (or facts), but...

&gt; For years, Australia&#039;s censors effectively banned games with graphic violence, making titles such as Grand Theft Auto and Mortal Kombat hard to charge money for.

Well, no. Games with extreme graphic violence, those that pushed the R18 rating to its limit, were _sometimes banned_. More often than not they were allowed for sale unedited, usually squeezed into the MA15+ rating bracket. The latest Mortal Kombat was refused classification, but every MK before that was released just fine. Every GTA game has been released here with violence intact, but GTA3 was censored post-release to remove the ability to pick up prostitutes, and GTA: San Andreas was also removed from shelves when the Hot Coffee scandal broke, but was re-released once that code was excised. Again, violence intact. Fallout 3 was edited slightly, with references to real-world drugs changed to fantasy substances. Again, all violence intact.
It&#039;s growing tiresome, always reading about my country being portrayed as a backwater of technology and censorship by uninformed headlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be the voice of reason (or facts), but&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt; For years, Australia&#8217;s censors effectively banned games with graphic violence, making titles such as Grand Theft Auto and Mortal Kombat hard to charge money for.</p>
<p>Well, no. Games with extreme graphic violence, those that pushed the R18 rating to its limit, were _sometimes banned_. More often than not they were allowed for sale unedited, usually squeezed into the MA15+ rating bracket. The latest Mortal Kombat was refused classification, but every MK before that was released just fine. Every GTA game has been released here with violence intact, but GTA3 was censored post-release to remove the ability to pick up prostitutes, and GTA: San Andreas was also removed from shelves when the Hot Coffee scandal broke, but was re-released once that code was excised. Again, violence intact. Fallout 3 was edited slightly, with references to real-world drugs changed to fantasy substances. Again, all violence intact.<br />
It&#8217;s growing tiresome, always reading about my country being portrayed as a backwater of technology and censorship by uninformed headlines.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627752</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a potentially serious risk that the local wildlife will learn the wrong lessons from titles like &quot;Outback Envenomator 3: Tainted Blood&quot;. I&#039;m told that the sections where you use your wiimote to trigger your character&#039;s venomous strikes against unprotected ankles are harrowingly realistic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a potentially serious risk that the local wildlife will learn the wrong lessons from titles like &#8220;Outback Envenomator 3: Tainted Blood&#8221;. I&#8217;m told that the sections where you use your wiimote to trigger your character&#8217;s venomous strikes against unprotected ankles are harrowingly realistic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the, er, how to be charitable here... &lt;em&gt;utter dearth of evidence despite repeated study&lt;/em&gt; that violent video games are causally related to violence, I&#039;d say that it&#039;s as good a time as any.

Also, I strongly doubt that you are &#039;usually one of the first people against censorship&#039; with an attitude like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the, er, how to be charitable here&#8230; <em>utter dearth of evidence despite repeated study</em> that violent video games are causally related to violence, I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s as good a time as any.</p>
<p>Also, I strongly doubt that you are &#8216;usually one of the first people against censorship&#8217; with an attitude like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Stickarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stickarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Next stop, Thunderdome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Next stop, Thunderdome!</p>
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		<title>By: pws</title>
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		<dc:creator>pws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;an inane franchise slasher&quot; 


Too bad about Ninja Gaiden, it was one of the greatest 8-bit game series ever.  (And predicted the Age of Eternal Darkness that we are living in now, but I&#039;m presuming Jaquio won.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an inane franchise slasher&#8221; </p>
<p>Too bad about Ninja Gaiden, it was one of the greatest 8-bit game series ever.  (And predicted the Age of Eternal Darkness that we are living in now, but I&#8217;m presuming Jaquio won.)</p>
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		<title>By: jerwin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/australia-legalizes-violent-vi.html#comment-1627641</link>
		<dc:creator>jerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s difficult to obtain real guns in Australia. Why obsess over virtual ones? Let the culture wars commence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s difficult to obtain real guns in Australia. Why obsess over virtual ones? Let the culture wars commence!</p>
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		<title>By: freshyill</title>
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		<dc:creator>freshyill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What.</p>
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		<title>By: Mendy Hartsook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mendy Hartsook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am usually one of the first people against censorship. With all of the violence and gun debate in the US right now.... Is it really a good time to do this? 
I&#039;m not convinced. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am usually one of the first people against censorship. With all of the violence and gun debate in the US right now&#8230;. Is it really a good time to do this?<br />
I&#8217;m not convinced. </p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But but but...  don&#039;t they know video games cause gun violence?  They need the NRA - stat! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But but but&#8230;  don&#8217;t they know video games cause gun violence?  They need the NRA &#8211; stat! </p>
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