Comments on: Sita Sings the Blues goes CC0 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jorpho http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1633165 Jorpho Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1633165 I really ought to get around to watching this sometime. Be sure to check out "This Land is Mine" (Ms. Paley's more recent work) if you haven't already. http://vimeo.com/50531435 And it's good to hear Mr. Landreth (that's they guy who won the Oscar for "Ryan" some years ago) is doing things too. I really ought to get around to watching this sometime.

Be sure to check out “This Land is Mine” (Ms. Paley’s more recent work) if you haven’t already.
http://vimeo.com/50531435

And it’s good to hear Mr. Landreth (that’s they guy who won the Oscar for “Ryan” some years ago) is doing things too.

]]> By: Wolfs Wohnwand http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632965 Wolfs Wohnwand Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632965 Arrgh, you had to post the whole movie, didn't you? How am I supposed to get any work done ;-) Arrgh, you had to post the whole movie, didn’t you? How am I supposed to get any work done ;-)

]]> By: ocker3 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632816 ocker3 Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632816  She very specifically wanted to use the music of that exact singer in the movie because of the singer's history and image  She very specifically wanted to use the music of that exact singer in the movie because of the singer’s history and image

]]> By: GouldOldDays http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632692 GouldOldDays Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632692 How about this for civil disobedience -- sending the lawyers a non-license letter? To whom it may concern, I have been asked to license rights in my copyrighted work [insert name of work] to [insert what the folks want to do with the work].  I cannot grant that license because there is nothing to license -- the requested use of my work falls within the Fair Use doctrine.  I understand that the sending of this letter operates as an equitable estoppel against me or anyone in privity with me ever taking the position in any legal forum that the use described above is not a Fair Use, and therefore precludes me from asserting copyright infringement based on the use described above. [closing] Even the thickest, dumbest lawyer ought to understand that this letter operates like a license, in terms of giving them the freedom to use the copyrighted work in the way they wanted to. How about this for civil disobedience — sending the lawyers a non-license letter?

To whom it may concern,

I have been asked to license rights in my copyrighted work [insert name of work] to [insert what the folks want to do with the work].  I cannot grant that license because there is nothing to license — the requested use of my work falls within the Fair Use doctrine.  I understand that the sending of this letter operates as an equitable estoppel against me or anyone in privity with me ever taking the position in any legal forum that the use described above is not a Fair Use, and therefore precludes me from asserting copyright infringement based on the use described above.

[closing]

Even the thickest, dumbest lawyer ought to understand that this letter operates like a license, in terms of giving them the freedom to use the copyrighted work in the way they wanted to.

]]> By: Rev.Veggie.Spam http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632625 Rev.Veggie.Spam Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632625 Polite disagreement here. The Drowsy Chaperone is an excellent example of how a work can use entirely new musical pieces to evoke style and art. It can be done. They have awards to prove it. So maybe it could have but really *should* it have to? Whether someone *should* have to reinvent cultural wheels because of a broken copyright system is the real, bigger question. I offer my respect to Nina for both her talents and her stand against this. Lots of good reasons why to do so have already been pointed out on BoingBoing. Still, I am amazed at the amount of work and what a chunk of her life that it must represent that she's putting out there under her first creative common license and now updated this license. As somebody  who has to work within this current copyright system, I really wish things were different for so many little stupid reasons. There has got to be better ways. Polite disagreement here.

The Drowsy Chaperone is an excellent example of how a work can use entirely new musical pieces to evoke style and art. It can be done. They have awards to prove it. So maybe it could have but really *should* it have to?

Whether someone *should* have to reinvent cultural wheels because of a broken copyright system is the real, bigger question.

I offer my respect to Nina for both her talents and her stand against this. Lots of good reasons why to do so have already been pointed out on BoingBoing. Still, I am amazed at the amount of work and what a chunk of her life that it must represent that she’s putting out there under her first creative common license and now updated this license.

As somebody  who has to work within this current copyright system, I really wish things were different for so many little stupid reasons. There has got to be better ways.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632622 That_Anonymous_Coward Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632622 And the added bonus of Nina is good people! And the added bonus of Nina is good people!

]]> By: ocker3 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632537 ocker3 Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632537  The use of the iconic songs was part of the style/art of the movie, it wouldn't have worked as well with new pieces.  The use of the iconic songs was part of the style/art of the movie, it wouldn’t have worked as well with new pieces.

]]> By: TacoChuck http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632458 TacoChuck Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632458  Her collection of the things one must do to properly pay off the myriad parasites living off the body of works of long passed away artists is a work of art in itself.  Her collection of the things one must do to properly pay off the myriad parasites living off the body of works of long passed away artists is a work of art in itself.

]]> By: jondean http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632323 jondean Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632323 I'm certain that the artist will be glad that these companies fought so hard to protect her rights. Oh, wait, she's been dead 28 years now (23 at the time of "Sita's" release)? So basically, all profits now merely go to the corporations that own the rights? Maybe the record execs could write their own songs and sell them instead of claiming ownership of someone else's creative works. I’m certain that the artist will be glad that these companies fought so hard to protect her rights.
Oh, wait, she’s been dead 28 years now (23 at the time of “Sita’s” release)? So basically, all profits now merely go to the corporations that own the rights? Maybe the record execs could write their own songs and sell them instead of claiming ownership of someone else’s creative works.

]]> By: Dewgeist http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632321 Dewgeist Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632321 An artist need struggle against the boundaries of self -this is best realized when the boundaries others place are ignored. An artist need struggle against the boundaries of self -this is best realized when the boundaries others place are ignored.

]]> By: theophrastvs http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632318 theophrastvs Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632318 If any artistic or educational grants remain (during these sorry economic times (e.g. National Endowment for the Arts)) then Nina Paley should be jumped to the head of the line.  it would benefit us all. If any artistic or educational grants remain (during these sorry economic times (e.g. National Endowment for the Arts)) then Nina Paley should be jumped to the head of the line.  it would benefit us all.

]]> By: robcat2075 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632295 robcat2075 Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632295 Note to all film-makers... you can avoid all this self-created complication by writing new songs for your movie instead of appropriating someone else's. Can't write songs and don't have a friend who will do it for you? There are other genres besides "movie musical". Note to all film-makers… you can avoid all this self-created complication by writing new songs for your movie instead of appropriating someone else’s.

Can’t write songs and don’t have a friend who will do it for you? There are other genres besides “movie musical”.

]]> By: howaboutthisdangit http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632292 howaboutthisdangit Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632292 Starving them may just make them more aggressive. Starving them may just make them more aggressive.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632282 oasisob1 Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632282 Nina Paley is a genius. Be sure to remember this post: http://boingboing.net/2005/04/21/excellent-animated-i.html Nina Paley is a genius. Be sure to remember this post:
http://boingboing.net/2005/04/21/excellent-animated-i.html

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632271 EH Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632271 Doesn't matter as long as they have less work to do. Doesn’t matter as long as they have less work to do.

]]> By: Nina Paley http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632268 Nina Paley Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632268 Same as before: http://sitasingstheblues.com/license.html Same as before: http://sitasingstheblues.com/license.html

]]> By: Chentzilla http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632232 Chentzilla Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632232 Will anyone remind me, how was the issue of the songs used in the movie not being in public domain solved? Will anyone remind me, how was the issue of the songs used in the movie not being in public domain solved?

]]> By: JoelCave http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632218 JoelCave Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632218 Great film, made with heart, rather than the latest flavour of the month from Disney/Dreamworks. I applaud Nina and her stance.  Great film, made with heart, rather than the latest flavour of the month from Disney/Dreamworks. I applaud Nina and her stance. 

]]> By: Zacqary Adam Green http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-1632214 Zacqary Adam Green Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206658#comment-1632214 I doubt this will make any of the lawyers understand the situation any more. I doubt this will make any of the lawyers understand the situation any more.

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