Comments on: Improvised "Chechen" firearms

By: Mister44

Mister44 — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:28:00 +0000

They could have taken direction from this guy who built a 9mm sub machine gun out of rectangular tubing using a drill, file, and saw. Its a long video and must have taken the guy forever, but it shows how even with lo tech, makers find a way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHAO8oxwioU

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:19:00 +0000

Play with a Mosin-Nagant then switch back to a Mauser and you’ll think you’re in heaven.

The Timney 3 lb trigger for Mausers is pure pleasure and simple to install.

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:15:00 +0000

There’s a blog somewhere and a guy makes an AK receiver from a hardware store shovel. It’s a lot stronger than the standard issue. ANd he used the shovel D handle for a stock just for grins. I think he could make one in his sleep.

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:11:00 +0000

Quite true, many of those rifles would have reached that area during ww2, although many would have been manufactured in ww1

By: HubrisSonic

HubrisSonic — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:14:00 +0000

Mauser is a good damn weapon.

By: Greg McCann

Greg McCann — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:30:00 +0000

I would unacquaint myself.

By: nachoproblem

nachoproblem — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:38:00 +0000

Makes sense. Pakistan has been filled with steelworks since… I dunno, ancient times? If people have enough access to casting and machine tools, they could be grinding out guns to spec as good as any factory.

By: Dan Hibiki

Dan Hibiki — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:13:00 +0000

these aren’t exactly the greatest craftsmen around.
I mean look at that gun, if it was a real craftsman that made it it would have had at least half a roll of duct tape on it.

By: SomeGuyNamedMark

SomeGuyNamedMark — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:26:00 +0000

If you want to see real homemade guns just watch the episode of “Michael Palin Around the World” where he visits a street in Pakistan lined with gunsmiths making homemade AK-47s. These weren’t shoddy things either, they were about as close to factory made as hand made can get.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:26:00 +0000

I’d be quite grateful to be beheaded compared to weeks or months of torture leading to an agonizing death, thanks. Decapitation is a fairly quick and painless way to die unless you’re unlucky enough to be Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington.

By: SomeGuyNamedMark

SomeGuyNamedMark — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:20:00 +0000

First time I’ve ever heard someone try to make a case for decapitation.

By: dave987

dave987 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:17:00 +0000

One difference between beheading, especially in this case, and torture in prison is that beheading on video is quite possibly one of the most terrifying pieces of propaganda one could dream up. We all tend to think of our bodies as one unit, especially when the head bone is connected to the body bone. The thought of having the two separated is bone-chilling to most people, to say the least.

That doesn’t mean I excuse torture, far from it, but a bruised and battered dead body is less terrorizing than a headless body, especially when one contemplates oneself in that predicament. At least for me.

By: kringlebertfistyebuns

kringlebertfistyebuns — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:09:00 +0000

>bolt action Mausers and Enfields from WW2.

WW1, even.

By: dave987

dave987 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:06:00 +0000

One thing to be said about zip guns – they don’t take 30 round magazines. ; )

By: kringlebertfistyebuns

kringlebertfistyebuns — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:06:00 +0000

At least the beheading’s over when your head’s been sawn off. Torture stays with you forever, AIUI.

By: dave987

dave987 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:04:00 +0000

I’m not sure I understand your post. Are you saying I don’t know what I’m talking about, or just Cory and Antinous? It’s fine if you think I don’t know, and I don’t claim to “know,” just expressing my opinions. I rarely proclaim absolute knowledge as it’s too easy to be proven wrong, and it’s too hard to gracefully adopt new positions on a given subject.

By: dave987

dave987 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:01:00 +0000

Think of it this way. Most Russians don’t give a hoot about Chechnya (or at least that’s a fairly safe assumption), ergo, many Russians would likely view Chechens as bogeymen. Just like many people here in the US view Muslims as bogeymen. Unjustified, yes. True, also yes.

By: cdh1971

cdh1971 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:01:00 +0000

Ah…I see…a couple of supporters of the ‘Great Russian Race’, apologists for the Russian pograms against Jews, Chechens or any other group that resists the Russian boot on their necks.

By: Christopher Miller

Christopher Miller — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:59:00 +0000

The future seems to be 3D printed guns (or mostly 3D printed ones), which aren’t much of a hassle at all and will be very hard to regulate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10Jz2qIog8&feature=player_embedded

By: dave987

dave987 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:59:00 +0000

I’m not sticking up for the Russians either. Just sayin’…

By: dave987

dave987 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:58:00 +0000

Nobody said they were friends, just acquaintances.

By: Rich Keller

Rich Keller — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:34:00 +0000

They could make money selling these on Etsy to Steampunks.

By: eagleapex

eagleapex — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:23:00 +0000

Who needs to 3D print guns?

By: invictus

invictus — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:17:00 +0000

Tell you what: You show me one first-hand account from someone who had been beheaded and says that’s preferable to being tortured, and I’ll gladly agree with your position.

By: Isaac Rinke

Isaac Rinke — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:12:00 +0000

We’re getting better though. I haven’t read the exact literature in Obama’s executive orders, but from what I saw he really cleaned up a lot of really outdated, clearly problematic features of the Gun Control Act of ’64.

Ideally our society would shoot for something similar to the Czech Republic’s laws, but given the degree to which the NRA lobbies, that’ll never happen.

By: Isaac Rinke

Isaac Rinke — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:08:00 +0000

I suppose in reality, if someone was angry enough, they’d grab the nearest hammer and go to town. A home built firearm/zip gun would probably be used in hits or some other such situation.

However, it would nevertheless be interesting to see how much of a factor this would be in such a situation.

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:02:00 +0000

Occupying troops hate those old bolt action rifles which can flatten a guy wearing the best body armor.

Our troops in Afghanistan still confiscate bolt action Mausers and Enfields from WW2.

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:59:00 +0000

Possibly a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, a couple British Webley .455 looking revolvers.

By: Florian Bösch

Florian Bösch — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:38:00 +0000

Compared to Russian prison in Siberia? Beheading sounds merciful.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:32:00 +0000

No, but describing rebels as bogey men when they’re under siege from one of the world’s most repressive regimes shows a ridiculous lack of perspective. Beheading people is less barbaric than what Russian security personnel are doing to their political enemies in government facilities.