Comments on: More on "Escape From Tomorrow," the guerrilla art-house movie shot at Walt Disney World and Disneyland http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 15:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Warren Kruger http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1634633 Warren Kruger Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1634633 I saw this movie already I think. But it wasn't in black and white. 2009... http://youtu.be/e4dFV80_OoM I saw this movie already I think. But it wasn’t in black and white. 2009…
http://youtu.be/e4dFV80_OoM

]]> By: mfeige http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633784 mfeige Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633784 While the Disney company had grown much larger than Walt could've ever imagined this quote from the filmmaker: "I think Walt Disney was a genius. I just wish his vision hadn’t grown into something quite so corporate.” seems misguided at best. Many of Walt's dreams were corporate in their very nature.  While the Disney company had grown much larger than Walt could’ve ever imagined this quote from the filmmaker: “I think Walt Disney was a genius. I just wish his vision hadn’t grown into something quite so corporate.” seems misguided at best. Many of Walt’s dreams were corporate in their very nature. 

]]> By: otterhead http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633769 otterhead Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633769 It's still awesome and in many cases getting awesomer. In my humble opinion. It’s still awesome and in many cases getting awesomer.
In my humble opinion.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633745 oasisob1 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633745 So, is it actually any fun to go to Disney with your family any more, or does it feel like a hollow version of what we enjoyed when we were young? So, is it actually any fun to go to Disney with your family any more, or does it feel like a hollow version of what we enjoyed when we were young?

]]> By: Boundegar http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633730 Boundegar Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633730 "There's a possible trademark claim, and I suppose that Disney could conceivable bring suit for violating the park's terms of use..." Ok, but isn't that now a felony? “There’s a possible trademark claim, and I suppose that Disney could conceivable bring suit for violating the park’s terms of use…”

Ok, but isn’t that now a felony?

]]> By: pentor http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633723 pentor Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633723 I hope they release it via The Pirate Bay before is too late. I hope they release it via The Pirate Bay before is too late.

]]> By: David Holzman http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633700 David Holzman Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633700 Cory, will Stanford's Fair Use Center help to insure narrative/fiction films?  I thought they were focused on documentary films only. Cory, will Stanford’s Fair Use Center help to insure narrative/fiction films?  I thought they were focused on documentary films only.

]]> By: Ideal http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633657 Ideal Tue, 22 Jan 2013 05:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633657 Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/

]]> By: otterhead http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633628 otterhead Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633628 Yes, thank you, I'm aware of Wikipedia. The term usually refers to something done covertly, illegally, and without permission -- such as filming in public places or sneaking into buildings. My point is that if you're going to make a 'guerrilla film', WDW is probably the easiest place in the world to do so, because everyone's got a camera and they encourage you to film and photograph while you're there. You can film your actors right out in the open and nobody will blink an eye. Making it look professionally shot and choreographed -- that's the real trick, and if they do indeed pull that off, it's what'll be impressive. Yes, thank you, I’m aware of Wikipedia.
The term usually refers to something done covertly, illegally, and without permission — such as filming in public places or sneaking into buildings. My point is that if you’re going to make a ‘guerrilla film’, WDW is probably the easiest place in the world to do so, because everyone’s got a camera and they encourage you to film and photograph while you’re there. You can film your actors right out in the open and nobody will blink an eye. Making it look professionally shot and choreographed — that’s the real trick, and if they do indeed pull that off, it’s what’ll be impressive.

]]> By: SotoPlaxe http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633613 SotoPlaxe Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633613 I don't know what you think guerrilla filmmaking is, but this is exactly the type of project that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_filmmaking" rel="nofollow">that term</a> defines. I don’t know what you think guerrilla filmmaking is, but this is exactly the type of project that that term defines.

]]> By: Kevin Bosch http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633576 Kevin Bosch Tue, 22 Jan 2013 03:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633576 Would be great to shoot a film adaptation of DOWN AND OUT IN THE MAGIC KINGDOM in this same fashion. Would be great to shoot a film adaptation of DOWN AND OUT IN THE MAGIC KINGDOM in this same fashion.

]]> By: otterhead http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633556 otterhead Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633556 Calling this a "guerrilla movie" is a little silly. They shot this with nice DSLRs and did a very fine job, but every third person at WDW has a camera up to their face constantly, and you can't throw a rock on YouTube without seeing movies shot all over the parks. Unless they documented themselves doing something like sneaking backstage, getting off rides in mid-ride, or damaging parts of the park, this seems like fair use and won't be an issue. Calling this a “guerrilla movie” is a little silly. They shot this with nice DSLRs and did a very fine job, but every third person at WDW has a camera up to their face constantly, and you can’t throw a rock on YouTube without seeing movies shot all over the parks.

Unless they documented themselves doing something like sneaking backstage, getting off rides in mid-ride, or damaging parts of the park, this seems like fair use and won’t be an issue.

]]> By: itsgene http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633535 itsgene Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633535 "The movie, while careful to leave out certain copyrighted material (like the It’s a Small World song), would seem to test the limits of fair use in copyright law. " Ironically, of all the music in the parks, “it's a small world” is the ONE song that isn't copyrighted! It was given to “the children of the world” by Disney and UNICEF. “The movie, while careful to leave out certain copyrighted material (like the It’s a Small World song), would seem to test the limits of fair use in copyright law. ”

Ironically, of all the music in the parks, “it’s a small world” is the ONE song that isn’t copyrighted! It was given to “the children of the world” by Disney and UNICEF.

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633534 Kimmo Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633534 So, one way to ensure this film isn't suppressed is for tightwad paupers like me to share a torrent of it... Couldn't manage to dig one up yesterday, though : ( So, one way to ensure this film isn’t suppressed is for tightwad paupers like me to share a torrent of it…

Couldn’t manage to dig one up yesterday, though : (

]]> By: agonist http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633515 agonist Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633515 It would be cool if Disney went against what everyone expects them to do and gave the film a 'thumbs up'. It would be cool if Disney went against what everyone expects them to do and gave the film a ‘thumbs up’.

]]> By: Arnauld De La Grandière http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/more-on-escape-from-tomorrow.html#comment-1633507 Arnauld De La Grandière Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=206812#comment-1633507 yeah, and thankfully, copyright holders would never send DMCA requests against blatant fair use cases… oh, wait. yeah, and thankfully, copyright holders would never send DMCA requests against blatant fair use cases… oh, wait.

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