Comments on: Clip of Ashton Kutcher as Jobs

By: vertigo25

vertigo25 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:54:00 +0000

Quite. I was quoting the comment *you* were replying to.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:32:00 +0000

What you major in doesn’t exactly make you a “young genius.”

Were you aware that quotation marks are meant to be used for quotations?

By: vertigo25

vertigo25 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:50:00 +0000

Um… so? What you major in doesn’t exactly make you a “young genius.” Plus, according to Ye Olde Wikipedia, he *planned* on majoring in biochemical engineering. He spent most of his time partying and dropped out when he won a modeling contest.

Anyhoo… even aside from the insipid characters he’s played, I’ve never witnessed anything from him that made me think he was anything more than average in intelligence (and mediocre in talent).

By: David Guilbeault

David Guilbeault — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:12:00 +0000

If this is so it undervalues Wozniak’s contribution to Apple’s and Jobs’ success. The prevailing attitude seems to be that whatever product Jobs attached himself to would have enjoyed a similar success, but Woz’s Apple ][ really was a standout at the time for a number of reasons. Open architecture and colour display, for example. The S100 bus equipment had the open architecture and the hearts of many of the more technical, but was harder to implement. Woz’s creation captured the hobby market and Dan Bricklin’s Visicalc got the business market for Apple. Or so I recall…

By: Bobsyeruncle

Bobsyeruncle — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 21:05:00 +0000

No he did not. Woz was REALLY enthusiastic about computers. He wanted to give ‘em away. Jobs talked him into charging $666.66. That actor did NOT convey Woz’s personality at all.

By: Will Dunham

Will Dunham — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:08:00 +0000

He’s making no effort to deviate from his Kutcher/Kelso upper Midwest accent. ”You can see what yer werkin’ oan while yer werkin’ oan it!”

By: ironix

ironix — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 08:52:00 +0000

Noah Wyle captured Jobs perfectly. Seeing Kutcher in this clip made me feel ill…

By: penguinchris

penguinchris — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 08:15:00 +0000

Perhaps they did the whole composite character thing to keep things simple, so we’re seeing Woz combined with someone else, which is why it seems so off to people like us who are familiar with him.

By: dmc10

dmc10 — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:47:00 +0000

And…? He choses to play dumb stoner characters, which most people associate him with, so my point still stands.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:52:00 +0000

Gimlification.

By: D3

D3 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:51:00 +0000

Looks pretty dumbed-down and simplistic to me, as biopics usually are. Doesn’t look like they understand Wozniak very well, based on this scene.

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:34:00 +0000

I know what you mean; but the same could be said for a lot of actors (there’s a term for it, applies to directors too – totally escapes me) – but I think it stands out more as a negative in a biopic.

By: Itsumishi

Itsumishi — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:00 +0000

but he played stupid characters! he can’t be smart! can’t beeee!

By: Lauchlin

Lauchlin — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:11:00 +0000

I remember when the comments here used to be insightful and entertaining instead of Gawker with extra snark.

I was initially skeptical about this casting choice, but I think this clip has sold me on it.

By: Damian Barajas

Damian Barajas — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:07:00 +0000

For about a second I hear it, but then I see his dead eyes, his damned uncomprehending dead eyes, and suddenly kelso takes his place. Maybe its unfair of me, but he really doesn’t do anything different than what he´s done in anything else I´ve seen him in.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:06:00 +0000

Mr. Kutcher was majoring in biochemical engineering before he went into acting. He’s also a fairly prolific producer (of dubious entertainment). I would guess that he’s pretty smart.

By: JohnnyLA

JohnnyLA — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:23:00 +0000

Nice! I haven’t seen this before. I love his mannerisms and gestures when he was really explaining the details.

By: EeyoreX

EeyoreX — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:08:00 +0000

I, for one, am happy to see they’re finally rebooting Seinfeld. You totally get why they chose to make it a prequel set in the eighties as soon as you see those over the top hairdos on George, and to some lesser extent on Jerry. Looking forward to seeing Matthew Modines take on Kramer.

By: euansmith

euansmith — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:07:00 +0000

Wow, Ashton Kutcher playing one of histories greatest monsters!

By: oasisob1

oasisob1 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:24:00 +0000

I’m not even going to watch the clip. The still is horrifying enough. Unicorn chaser, please.

By: oasisob1

oasisob1 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:24:00 +0000

As soon as the movie’s out, someone should mash the two up to make this happen.

By: Michael Smith

Michael Smith — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:00 +0000

Yeah and did Woz actually talk the idea down in that way? If he didn’t I would argue the movie is selling him short.

By: signsofrain

signsofrain — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:52:00 +0000

I think this could work. I'll take the BBS Documentary over the story of Apple any day, but I'd still buy an overpriced theatre ticket to this, if only to see how Woz is portrayed.

By: franko

franko — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:38:00 +0000

this is my beef with this, too. it makes woz look like a clueless brainiac, when in fact he CLEARLY understood what they were doing… he just didn’t care for all the schmoozy marketing stuff. he wanted to improve it and make it better because he COULD.

By: David Guilbeault

David Guilbeault — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:04:00 +0000

Not really…he was kind of John Denver like. The character in this video seems intended to present Woz in an unfavorable way. It is not clear the place in Apple’s arc this clip represents, although if they are arguing about whether anyone will buy a computer or not, it must be pre Apple I. To suggest that Woz would not perceive a market at that time, with the example of IMSAI and ALTAIR before them, I find not believable. Likewise, OS talk when most hobby computers had bootstrap loaders is out of era; you might have 2K bytes of total memory. Here is a video of Woz at the end of the Apple II cycle:
http://youtu.be/ul7NkLGtD84

By: Claudio Bonifazi

Claudio Bonifazi — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:03:00 +0000

He is overacting so much that I got annoyed and stopped the video after 30 seconds

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:54:00 +0000

Ah it’s definitely not spot on, and it starts stronger than it ends; but you can hear it.

By: Rob Beschizza

Rob Beschizza — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:49:00 +0000

Not quite nasal enough.

By: BookGuy

BookGuy — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:43:00 +0000

Agreed a thousand times.

By: thekinginyellow

thekinginyellow — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:36:00 +0000

I’m waiting for Red to pop up behind Kelso and call Woz a Dumb Ass.