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	<title>Comments on: Anne of Green Gables had herpes (and you probably do,&#160;too)</title>
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		<title>By: Laura Probst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1639872</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Probst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The citronellol present in Geranium oil (Pelargonium graveolens) has shown itself to be an effective treatment against enveloped viruses such as HSV-1, as well as the flu virus.  The essential oils most highly referenced and recommended for treating herpes topically are Melissa (Melissa officinalis - aka Lemon Balm) and Ravensara (Ravensara aromatica).  Melissa oil as well as Peppermint (Mentha piperita) and Tea Tree (Melaleuca alternifolia) demonstrate significant antiherpetic activity and have shown themselves to be highly active against acyclovir- resistant HSV-1 strains.  Other essential oils that have been studied for their antiviral/virucidal properties are Ginger (Zingiber officinale), Thyme (Thymus vulgaris), Hyssop (Helichrysum italicum - aka Everlasting or Immortelle), and Sandalwood (Santalum album).  I hope this infuses some science into what may seem like a &quot;voodoo&quot; topic to some.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21607799
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17353250</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The citronellol present in Geranium oil (Pelargonium graveolens) has shown itself to be an effective treatment against enveloped viruses such as HSV-1, as well as the flu virus.  The essential oils most highly referenced and recommended for treating herpes topically are Melissa (Melissa officinalis &#8211; aka Lemon Balm) and Ravensara (Ravensara aromatica).  Melissa oil as well as Peppermint (Mentha piperita) and Tea Tree (Melaleuca alternifolia) demonstrate significant antiherpetic activity and have shown themselves to be highly active against acyclovir- resistant HSV-1 strains.  Other essential oils that have been studied for their antiviral/virucidal properties are Ginger (Zingiber officinale), Thyme (Thymus vulgaris), Hyssop (Helichrysum italicum &#8211; aka Everlasting or Immortelle), and Sandalwood (Santalum album).  I hope this infuses some science into what may seem like a &#8220;voodoo&#8221; topic to some.<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21607799" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21607799</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17353250" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17353250</a></p>
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		<title>By: psilax</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1639647</link>
		<dc:creator>psilax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.  And clove oil?  Fantastic topical painkiller for your mouth (handy for really painful canker sores, although better to brush your teeth and give yourself a good swish with something to kill germs).  If you don&#039;t believe me, chew on a clove and feel your tongue go numb.  Which is why clove oil is still an ingredient in temporary fillings and dry-socket preparations, helping raw nerves settle down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.  And clove oil?  Fantastic topical painkiller for your mouth (handy for really painful canker sores, although better to brush your teeth and give yourself a good swish with something to kill germs).  If you don&#8217;t believe me, chew on a clove and feel your tongue go numb.  Which is why clove oil is still an ingredient in temporary fillings and dry-socket preparations, helping raw nerves settle down.</p>
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		<title>By: psilax</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1639644</link>
		<dc:creator>psilax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a little uncharitable.  I don&#039;t know how or why  geranium oil would be effective for cold sores, but I can&#039;t see why Aurora50 would lie about it, and the original post seemed pretty balanced, so I don&#039;t see the need to call his/her intellectual rigour into question for using this  treatment.

I work in academic biomedical research (my last job was  spending 3 years investigating drug actions, working with  big pharma), and I don&#039;t think there is any problem with &quot;natural remedies.&quot;  I have a big problem with faith-based medicine, where people refuse to have their belief in the remedies challenged.  But if you properly test it, and it still works, voila! Medicine advances, and we can all benefit.

Most adults learn how to administer effective doses of  caffeine, alcohol and other interesting substances without a doctor&#039;s advice: why not geranium oil? All we need to do is put the idea to the test to see if it stands up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a little uncharitable.  I don&#8217;t know how or why  geranium oil would be effective for cold sores, but I can&#8217;t see why Aurora50 would lie about it, and the original post seemed pretty balanced, so I don&#8217;t see the need to call his/her intellectual rigour into question for using this  treatment.</p>
<p>I work in academic biomedical research (my last job was  spending 3 years investigating drug actions, working with  big pharma), and I don&#8217;t think there is any problem with &#8220;natural remedies.&#8221;  I have a big problem with faith-based medicine, where people refuse to have their belief in the remedies challenged.  But if you properly test it, and it still works, voila! Medicine advances, and we can all benefit.</p>
<p>Most adults learn how to administer effective doses of  caffeine, alcohol and other interesting substances without a doctor&#8217;s advice: why not geranium oil? All we need to do is put the idea to the test to see if it stands up.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Bardwell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1639220</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Bardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to officially state my belief that it is the infected person&#039;s responsibility to disclose. At the same time, I roll my eyes enthusiastically at all the people who will refuse to kiss or have sex with someone who is confirmed positive, but who have all sorts of possibly-infectious contact with people who have never been tested at all, and so who may be positive, and are ignorant of that fact. I have found this to be annoyingly common. &quot;I have never tested positive for this STD,&quot; is not the same thing as, &quot;I have tested negative.&quot; With every STD other than herpes, people seem to make that distinction, but something about herpes causes it to go out the window.

All that being said, I don&#039;t disclose oral herpes before kissing, because, fuck&#039;s sakes, so many people have it that I think you just have to assume.

If you have herpes, and if you want to go the mainstream-medicine route, Valtrex is very effective for a lot of people. You can take it daily if you have regular outbreaks, or episodically if you don&#039;t. Generic is now available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to officially state my belief that it is the infected person&#8217;s responsibility to disclose. At the same time, I roll my eyes enthusiastically at all the people who will refuse to kiss or have sex with someone who is confirmed positive, but who have all sorts of possibly-infectious contact with people who have never been tested at all, and so who may be positive, and are ignorant of that fact. I have found this to be annoyingly common. &#8220;I have never tested positive for this STD,&#8221; is not the same thing as, &#8220;I have tested negative.&#8221; With every STD other than herpes, people seem to make that distinction, but something about herpes causes it to go out the window.</p>
<p>All that being said, I don&#8217;t disclose oral herpes before kissing, because, fuck&#8217;s sakes, so many people have it that I think you just have to assume.</p>
<p>If you have herpes, and if you want to go the mainstream-medicine route, Valtrex is very effective for a lot of people. You can take it daily if you have regular outbreaks, or episodically if you don&#8217;t. Generic is now available.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Bardwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Bardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are type-specific tests, yes, but because either type can infect either location, knowing the type doesn&#039;t tell you where you are infected. The only way to know for sure what you have where is to swab a sore and then have a type-specific test done on the swab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are type-specific tests, yes, but because either type can infect either location, knowing the type doesn&#8217;t tell you where you are infected. The only way to know for sure what you have where is to swab a sore and then have a type-specific test done on the swab.</p>
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		<title>By: MurasakiMadness</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1639143</link>
		<dc:creator>MurasakiMadness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hence the need for more education, and a willingness to read books, blogs, etc after high school. 

Also, handy news (no pun intended), gloves and condoms can be cut to use as dental dams. Makes those flavored rubbers in the variety packs extra useful :)

I feel if barriers are looked at as another type of sex toy, that also reduces worry, then it takes cloud of &quot;chore&quot; out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hence the need for more education, and a willingness to read books, blogs, etc after high school. </p>
<p>Also, handy news (no pun intended), gloves and condoms can be cut to use as dental dams. Makes those flavored rubbers in the variety packs extra useful :)</p>
<p>I feel if barriers are looked at as another type of sex toy, that also reduces worry, then it takes cloud of &#8220;chore&#8221; out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: MurasakiMadness</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1639141</link>
		<dc:creator>MurasakiMadness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m poly, and get tested regularly. I don&#039;t feel it&#039;s my place, nor my doctor&#039;s place, to tell a potential partner (or a partner&#039;s partner) what risks they should be aware of or willing to accept. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m poly, and get tested regularly. I don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s my place, nor my doctor&#8217;s place, to tell a potential partner (or a partner&#8217;s partner) what risks they should be aware of or willing to accept. </p>
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		<title>By: tankadin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638811</link>
		<dc:creator>tankadin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a senior in high school, I used to chew sugarless gum (&quot;Extra&quot; brand, I think) nearly every waking hour.  I eventually discovered that it gave me really bad canker sores inside my mouth, often several at the same time.  When I stopped chewing the gum, the sores went away.  I assume it was an allergic reaction of some kind, but I don&#039;t know which ingredient in the gum was responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a senior in high school, I used to chew sugarless gum (&#8220;Extra&#8221; brand, I think) nearly every waking hour.  I eventually discovered that it gave me really bad canker sores inside my mouth, often several at the same time.  When I stopped chewing the gum, the sores went away.  I assume it was an allergic reaction of some kind, but I don&#8217;t know which ingredient in the gum was responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The application of OP&#039;s remedies correlates with diminished outbreaks. The Lisa Simpson analogy doesn&#039;t provide any correlation. There were no tigers before the magic rock, there are no tigers after the magic rock. The presence of the rock correlates with nothing. Ergo, the rock -- and the example -- are irrelevant.

Correlation doesn&#039;t prove causation, but it&#039;s a good starting point. OP tried something, it seems to work, she&#039;s helpfully sharing information. You&#039;re not being helpful, you&#039;re just shitting all over that contribution, and I don&#039;t think you ought to do that without some evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The application of OP&#8217;s remedies correlates with diminished outbreaks. The Lisa Simpson analogy doesn&#8217;t provide any correlation. There were no tigers before the magic rock, there are no tigers after the magic rock. The presence of the rock correlates with nothing. Ergo, the rock &#8212; and the example &#8212; are irrelevant.</p>
<p>Correlation doesn&#8217;t prove causation, but it&#8217;s a good starting point. OP tried something, it seems to work, she&#8217;s helpfully sharing information. You&#8217;re not being helpful, you&#8217;re just shitting all over that contribution, and I don&#8217;t think you ought to do that without some evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
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		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s still mistaking correlation for causation, and thus relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still mistaking correlation for causation, and thus relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckTV</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They &quot;may be&quot; herpes. Not necessarily though.

http://www.animated-teeth.com/canker_sores/t5-canker-sores-herpes.htm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They &#8220;may be&#8221; herpes. Not necessarily though.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.animated-teeth.com/canker_sores/t5-canker-sores-herpes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.animated-teeth.com/canker_sores/t5-canker-sores-herpes.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tess:twitter It seems like we might be stumbling over semantics. Would you agree that one has a right not to be knowingly infected by another person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tess:twitter It seems like we might be stumbling over semantics. Would you agree that one has a right not to be knowingly infected by another person?</p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638598</link>
		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@google-4b3c8a17ed014a95db54ba5b738648c0:disqus Again, as pointed out, because there is not a useful test for individuals.

That you can&#039;t know you don&#039;t have it does not mean you can&#039;t necessarily know you &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@google-4b3c8a17ed014a95db54ba5b738648c0:disqus Again, as pointed out, because there is not a useful test for individuals.</p>
<p>That you can&#8217;t know you don&#8217;t have it does not mean you can&#8217;t necessarily know you <i>do</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating.  In one place I&#039;m being blamed for saying people should accept that there&#039;s risk, in another for saying that people should disclose.  I was answering a simple question.  When in doubt, disclose your status, because the person you&#039;re about to kiss could really need to know.  Should they tell you that?  Sure!  Do you want to be the person responsible for getting them really sick because neither of you communicated?  Hopefully not!  &quot;You should have said!&quot; is cold comfort, you know?  

Disclosing an infectious *anything* is a morally sound, respectful choice.  I never said other people shouldn&#039;t take any responsibility.  The question was, if I&#039;m positive, should I disclose.  The answer is yes.

If the question is &quot;I&#039;m negative, should I ask?&quot; the answer is...  wait for it...  ALSO YES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating.  In one place I&#8217;m being blamed for saying people should accept that there&#8217;s risk, in another for saying that people should disclose.  I was answering a simple question.  When in doubt, disclose your status, because the person you&#8217;re about to kiss could really need to know.  Should they tell you that?  Sure!  Do you want to be the person responsible for getting them really sick because neither of you communicated?  Hopefully not!  &#8220;You should have said!&#8221; is cold comfort, you know?  </p>
<p>Disclosing an infectious *anything* is a morally sound, respectful choice.  I never said other people shouldn&#8217;t take any responsibility.  The question was, if I&#8217;m positive, should I disclose.  The answer is yes.</p>
<p>If the question is &#8220;I&#8217;m negative, should I ask?&#8221; the answer is&#8230;  wait for it&#8230;  ALSO YES.</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling HSV1 an STI is kind of silly.  Kissing isn&#039;t always sexual; it can be contracted by lots of non-sexual routes. And it&#039;s usually oral.  Sure, you can pass it around sexually, but you can pass around the flu by having sex too.  It&#039;s not an STI, it&#039;s just that if you&#039;re shedding influenza and you&#039;re that close for that long...

Anyway, you misunderstand me.  I&#039;m a huge fan of disclosure.  My problem was that you seemed to think people have a &quot;right&quot; not to get a disease that most people acquire in childhood.  You don&#039;t have the right not to get any disease; that&#039;s not a right.  If you&#039;re concerned about contracting something, you take steps to avoid contracting it.  It is not a violation of someone&#039;s human rights not to disclose. In my opinion, it&#039;s still wrong.  It&#039;s just not a rights violation.

Your language itself was stigmatizing, because I can&#039;t imagine anyone ever saying they had a right not to catch a cold or the flu.  You&#039;re thinking of this as an STI and therefore different - which is stigmatizing.  All by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling HSV1 an STI is kind of silly.  Kissing isn&#8217;t always sexual; it can be contracted by lots of non-sexual routes. And it&#8217;s usually oral.  Sure, you can pass it around sexually, but you can pass around the flu by having sex too.  It&#8217;s not an STI, it&#8217;s just that if you&#8217;re shedding influenza and you&#8217;re that close for that long&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, you misunderstand me.  I&#8217;m a huge fan of disclosure.  My problem was that you seemed to think people have a &#8220;right&#8221; not to get a disease that most people acquire in childhood.  You don&#8217;t have the right not to get any disease; that&#8217;s not a right.  If you&#8217;re concerned about contracting something, you take steps to avoid contracting it.  It is not a violation of someone&#8217;s human rights not to disclose. In my opinion, it&#8217;s still wrong.  It&#8217;s just not a rights violation.</p>
<p>Your language itself was stigmatizing, because I can&#8217;t imagine anyone ever saying they had a right not to catch a cold or the flu.  You&#8217;re thinking of this as an STI and therefore different &#8211; which is stigmatizing.  All by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re going to borrow snark from the Simpsons instead of even coming up with your own, try to make sure it&#039;s relevant. Aurora50 had outbreaks before starting to take herbal remedies. After she began applying the herbal remedies the outbreaks were mitigated.

The parallel is not a magic tiger-repellent rock that keeps tigers away from where they never existed to begin with, the parallel is a fence and rifle that keep tigers out of an area where they were previously rampant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re going to borrow snark from the Simpsons instead of even coming up with your own, try to make sure it&#8217;s relevant. Aurora50 had outbreaks before starting to take herbal remedies. After she began applying the herbal remedies the outbreaks were mitigated.</p>
<p>The parallel is not a magic tiger-repellent rock that keeps tigers away from where they never existed to begin with, the parallel is a fence and rifle that keep tigers out of an area where they were previously rampant.</p>
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		<title>By: aurora50</title>
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		<dc:creator>aurora50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for making this comment.  

My high school education was very good; I was well grounded in the history of science as well as the sciences themselves.  Going to prep schools in the mid-60&#039;s, I benefited from strong new math and science curricula created at the time to compete with the Soviets (they got Sputnik up first! we used to sit out in the summer nights and watch it blink over head, whilst our grandfather ranted about the Communists...fun times!)  

I was headed for a career as a marine biologist when I got side-tracked by what seemed to me the more &#039;relevant&#039; issues of the inequities of the Viet Nam war, segregation, the awful Summer of &#039;68, then Woodstock...never made it back to the labs.  But have always read and studied on my own.

Am bewildered by the shallow draft of knowledge exemplified by C W&#039;s snarky remarks.  It seems very regressive.

Have just posted a minor epic in response to &#039;Horus&#039;.  

Be well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for making this comment.  </p>
<p>My high school education was very good; I was well grounded in the history of science as well as the sciences themselves.  Going to prep schools in the mid-60&#8242;s, I benefited from strong new math and science curricula created at the time to compete with the Soviets (they got Sputnik up first! we used to sit out in the summer nights and watch it blink over head, whilst our grandfather ranted about the Communists&#8230;fun times!)  </p>
<p>I was headed for a career as a marine biologist when I got side-tracked by what seemed to me the more &#8216;relevant&#8217; issues of the inequities of the Viet Nam war, segregation, the awful Summer of &#8217;68, then Woodstock&#8230;never made it back to the labs.  But have always read and studied on my own.</p>
<p>Am bewildered by the shallow draft of knowledge exemplified by C W&#8217;s snarky remarks.  It seems very regressive.</p>
<p>Have just posted a minor epic in response to &#8216;Horus&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Be well!</p>
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		<title>By: aurora50</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638290</link>
		<dc:creator>aurora50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Horus:  I would invite you to entertain a healthy skepticism of &#039;science based medicines&#039;.  Especially in the last few decades, this has meant Big Pharma...and they truly have not been invested in the health of their customers...

I am in my seventh decade now, so that means I have dealt with the &#039;wicked herp&#039; for at least 50 years.  We will pass over gently the many &#039;scientific&#039; remedies offered by pediatricians and physicians in my earlier years.  When I became interested in being responsible for my own health and that of my infant children, I discovered other theoretical models for healing.  I experimented on myself and was very happy to come up with the remedies I mentioned above.

Even with the cancer pain and all, I still minimize my intake of pharmaceuticals...oh, I haven&#039;t really said why...it&#039;s the SIDE EFFECTS.  
I nursed grandparents, parents, in-laws and husband as they lived and died, mostly of cancers.  
One of the most insidious of practices is when the patient starts being medicated for the side effects of the drugs given for the side effects of the drug treating the main medical issue.

Having seen that so often and so up close, I refuse to do it to myself. (And note that verb is in the active rather than passive voice.)
It is an on-going effort and I am grateful that I have access to practitioners who are trained in other traditions, other sources of wisdom, than the rambunctious upstart that is western medical science.

I am the boss of me.  I engage a physician as I would a mechanic if I owned a fine fine automobile.  

Now, I expect that in your life time, and maybe even in what remains of mine, the  explosion of new tech, perhaps especially the 3-D printers, is going to mean huge strides in creating more effective and less toxic meds.  
Even now, I am fortunate to be treated for my cancer with a monoclonal antibody, rather than the chemical cocktail that was standard five years ago.

I offer this longer narrative, as elders tend to do.  
Rejoice in good health and be very wary of &#039;scientific medicine&#039;.  They are very good at diagnosis, great at mechanical repairs.  It is when they are faced with the mysterious malfunctions of organs and blood and cells that can&#039;t be seen that things can go awry.  

Listen to Xeni; she knows the score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Horus:  I would invite you to entertain a healthy skepticism of &#8216;science based medicines&#8217;.  Especially in the last few decades, this has meant Big Pharma&#8230;and they truly have not been invested in the health of their customers&#8230;</p>
<p>I am in my seventh decade now, so that means I have dealt with the &#8216;wicked herp&#8217; for at least 50 years.  We will pass over gently the many &#8216;scientific&#8217; remedies offered by pediatricians and physicians in my earlier years.  When I became interested in being responsible for my own health and that of my infant children, I discovered other theoretical models for healing.  I experimented on myself and was very happy to come up with the remedies I mentioned above.</p>
<p>Even with the cancer pain and all, I still minimize my intake of pharmaceuticals&#8230;oh, I haven&#8217;t really said why&#8230;it&#8217;s the SIDE EFFECTS. <br />
I nursed grandparents, parents, in-laws and husband as they lived and died, mostly of cancers. <br />
One of the most insidious of practices is when the patient starts being medicated for the side effects of the drugs given for the side effects of the drug treating the main medical issue.</p>
<p>Having seen that so often and so up close, I refuse to do it to myself. (And note that verb is in the active rather than passive voice.)<br />
It is an on-going effort and I am grateful that I have access to practitioners who are trained in other traditions, other sources of wisdom, than the rambunctious upstart that is western medical science.</p>
<p>I am the boss of me.  I engage a physician as I would a mechanic if I owned a fine fine automobile.  </p>
<p>Now, I expect that in your life time, and maybe even in what remains of mine, the  explosion of new tech, perhaps especially the 3-D printers, is going to mean huge strides in creating more effective and less toxic meds. <br />
Even now, I am fortunate to be treated for my cancer with a monoclonal antibody, rather than the chemical cocktail that was standard five years ago.</p>
<p>I offer this longer narrative, as elders tend to do. <br />
Rejoice in good health and be very wary of &#8216;scientific medicine&#8217;.  They are very good at diagnosis, great at mechanical repairs.  It is when they are faced with the mysterious malfunctions of organs and blood and cells that can&#8217;t be seen that things can go awry.  </p>
<p>Listen to Xeni; she knows the score.</p>
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		<title>By: desmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why you would be so dismissive if this works for aurora50 - obviously s/he takes &quot;science based&quot; medicine seriously if s/he has treated his/her cancer with chemotherapy.  

Maybe it&#039;s a placebo effect, but sometimes, even if we don&#039;t yet know why, natural remedies work. Take aspirin, for instance - willow bark was used in ancient Egypt, ancient Greece and during Europe&#039;s Middle Ages to treat &#039;fever, pain and inflammation&#039;, but the active ingredient salicin (a close relative of Asprin&#039;s man-made acetylsalicylic acid) wasn&#039;t known until the 19th century, and the reason it worked not known until the mid 20th. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aspirin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why you would be so dismissive if this works for aurora50 &#8211; obviously s/he takes &#8220;science based&#8221; medicine seriously if s/he has treated his/her cancer with chemotherapy.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a placebo effect, but sometimes, even if we don&#8217;t yet know why, natural remedies work. Take aspirin, for instance &#8211; willow bark was used in ancient Egypt, ancient Greece and during Europe&#8217;s Middle Ages to treat &#8216;fever, pain and inflammation&#8217;, but the active ingredient salicin (a close relative of Asprin&#8217;s man-made acetylsalicylic acid) wasn&#8217;t known until the 19th century, and the reason it worked not known until the mid 20th. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aspirin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aspirin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638264</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious; do you still trust doctors&#039; diagnoses?

After the second or third time I was misdiagnosed I stopped trusting anyone but myself to make decisions about my health.  This has resulted in my continued existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious; do you still trust doctors&#8217; diagnoses?</p>
<p>After the second or third time I was misdiagnosed I stopped trusting anyone but myself to make decisions about my health.  This has resulted in my continued existence.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638254</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I get tested for STDs every 56 days.&quot;

That has nothing to do with HSV1. It is not part of the normal STD battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I get tested for STDs every 56 days.&#8221;</p>
<p>That has nothing to do with HSV1. It is not part of the normal STD battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Rennie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638157</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Rennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am infinitely grateful that the picture for this (which appeared on every article at the time) has changed.

Previously it was an actual herp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am infinitely grateful that the picture for this (which appeared on every article at the time) has changed.</p>
<p>Previously it was an actual herp.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Rennie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Rennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that you call it pop-pop means you&#039;re not ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you call it pop-pop means you&#8217;re not ready.</p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1638126</link>
		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@google-4b3c8a17ed014a95db54ba5b738648c0:disqus As was pointed out elsewhere, the test has too high a false positive to be useful on individuals.

I get tested for STDs every 56 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@google-4b3c8a17ed014a95db54ba5b738648c0:disqus As was pointed out elsewhere, the test has too high a false positive to be useful on individuals.</p>
<p>I get tested for STDs every 56 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisha Thompson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1637872</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisha Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sincerely hope immuno-compromised people are initiating the full conversation about their immuno-compromisedness then, as well as asking about if  new partners have ever in their lives had mono, chicken pox, and all of the other common illnesses that live in one&#039;s body and can be transmitted by contact.

*shakes head* There is a certain amount of personal responsibility that is being disregarded on both sides here. Yes, disclosure is good on both sides. The extent though, especially if people don&#039;t care enough about their own personal safety to ask? It&#039;s not all on the poz&#039;s end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely hope immuno-compromised people are initiating the full conversation about their immuno-compromisedness then, as well as asking about if  new partners have ever in their lives had mono, chicken pox, and all of the other common illnesses that live in one&#8217;s body and can be transmitted by contact.</p>
<p>*shakes head* There is a certain amount of personal responsibility that is being disregarded on both sides here. Yes, disclosure is good on both sides. The extent though, especially if people don&#8217;t care enough about their own personal safety to ask? It&#8217;s not all on the poz&#8217;s end.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisha Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alisha Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also do a search on &quot;intraoral herpes&quot; to show that they are herpes and do come on the inside of your mouth. Dentists have to deal with intraoral all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also do a search on &#8220;intraoral herpes&#8221; to show that they are herpes and do come on the inside of your mouth. Dentists have to deal with intraoral all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1637822</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said that there&#039;s a great likelihood that you&#039;ve been exposed to it many times in your life, not that everyone you&#039;ve swapped an extended kiss with necessarily has it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said that there&#8217;s a great likelihood that you&#8217;ve been exposed to it many times in your life, not that everyone you&#8217;ve swapped an extended kiss with necessarily has it.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1637819</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;can&#039;t know with absolute certainty that I don&#039;t have it, but I don&#039;t have any reason to believe I do&quot;

A responsible person would then assume that they DO have it versus throwing a fit when statistics discuss the extreme commonality/ease of transmission and likelihood that many people do not express symptoms or have outbreaks. If you seriously cared, you&#039;d be tested for it as well. That you&#039;re guessing is answer enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;can&#8217;t know with absolute certainty that I don&#8217;t have it, but I don&#8217;t have any reason to believe I do&#8221;</p>
<p>A responsible person would then assume that they DO have it versus throwing a fit when statistics discuss the extreme commonality/ease of transmission and likelihood that many people do not express symptoms or have outbreaks. If you seriously cared, you&#8217;d be tested for it as well. That you&#8217;re guessing is answer enough.</p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t, and has been pointed out elsewhere, can&#039;t know with absolute certainty that I don&#039;t have it, but I don&#039;t have any reason to believe I do.

Infecting everyone with it would de-stigmatize it, but surely you wouldn&#039;t argue for that. I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t, and has been pointed out elsewhere, can&#8217;t know with absolute certainty that I don&#8217;t have it, but I don&#8217;t have any reason to believe I do.</p>
<p>Infecting everyone with it would de-stigmatize it, but surely you wouldn&#8217;t argue for that. I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/fun-science-fact-anne-of-gree.html#comment-1637676</link>
		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Maggie pointed out, life isn&#039;t simple. If you&#039;ve got an STD, you have an obligation to inform any sexy time partners before the act, no matter how awkward it is.

That people may then opt not to kiss you does not in and of itself stigmatize the disease. It&#039;s a choice people most certainly do have the right to make for themselves. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Maggie pointed out, life isn&#8217;t simple. If you&#8217;ve got an STD, you have an obligation to inform any sexy time partners before the act, no matter how awkward it is.</p>
<p>That people may then opt not to kiss you does not in and of itself stigmatize the disease. It&#8217;s a choice people most certainly do have the right to make for themselves. </p>
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