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	<title>Comments on: Globe and Mail runs loony screed against &quot;hackers&quot;, Aaron Swartz,&#160;logic</title>
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		<title>By: robertdemeester</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1638507</link>
		<dc:creator>robertdemeester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalists, and especially columnists, are against an open Internet because it renders their job useless. Who&#039;s going to pay to read a columnist&#039;s opinion when we can all read each other blogs, which are by no means stupider than their usual rant ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalists, and especially columnists, are against an open Internet because it renders their job useless. Who&#8217;s going to pay to read a columnist&#8217;s opinion when we can all read each other blogs, which are by no means stupider than their usual rant ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Olbey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1637359</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Olbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Globe and Mail is owned by the same gaggle that own Thomson-Reuters. Of course they&#039;re going to be in the camp of &quot;Gotta save what&#039;s left of the old economic model&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Globe and Mail is owned by the same gaggle that own Thomson-Reuters. Of course they&#8217;re going to be in the camp of &#8220;Gotta save what&#8217;s left of the old economic model&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1637280</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that Wobbly member Darrell Issa, who must be part of the international piracy confederation, and a sleeper agent in the Republican Party, who plans hearings on prosecutorial behavior in this case.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Wobbly member Darrell Issa, who must be part of the international piracy confederation, and a sleeper agent in the Republican Party, who plans hearings on prosecutorial behavior in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636809</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor analogy. It would have been better to suggest one shouldn&#039;t take boxes owned by others, or even if ownership is unclear.

You know, like how things really work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor analogy. It would have been better to suggest one shouldn&#8217;t take boxes owned by others, or even if ownership is unclear.</p>
<p>You know, like how things really work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Perron</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636784</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Perron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The timeline over at http://hamedhelped.com is accurate. I have been working as an advocate for Hamed and have seen all the documentation and email exchanges. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timeline over at <a href="http://hamedhelped.com" rel="nofollow">http://hamedhelped.com</a> is accurate. I have been working as an advocate for Hamed and have seen all the documentation and email exchanges. </p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Perron</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636771</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Perron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I still think they responded this way because we pitched the story to them before we pitched it to the National Post. They responded too slowly so we moved on and they ended up missing out on one of the bigger stories of this young year.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I still think they responded this way because we pitched the story to them before we pitched it to the National Post. They responded too slowly so we moved on and they ended up missing out on one of the bigger stories of this young year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Perron</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636773</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Perron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I still think they responded this way because we pitched the story to them before we pitched it to the National Post. They responded too slowly so we moved on and they ended up missing out on one of the bigger stories of this young year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I still think they responded this way because we pitched the story to them before we pitched it to the National Post. They responded too slowly so we moved on and they ended up missing out on one of the bigger stories of this young year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lenethen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636686</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Lenethen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be that this story is getting a bit spun. On slashdot there was a post from someone claiming to be from the school that knew the kids. Apparently there was a bunch that were developing an app, and were given access by administration. They then used some infiltration tools found online to get at personal information. Administration then removed access, and they hacked in anyway. Hence the expulsion. It wasn&#039;t clear if the programmer took the fall for someone elses actions also.

In any case I have no idea if any of that is true at all. However either it was a really big over reaction by admin, or we arn&#039;t getting the whole story, or authors have been writing what sells.

I know I am not convincved that we are hearing at all an unbiased story. That said, it could very well be that he was totally innocent and the school admin totally over reacted and were a bunch of jerks. I know I was outraged by it initially. Or it could be that the story was told by the student and media ran with it without any confirmation from any other sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be that this story is getting a bit spun. On slashdot there was a post from someone claiming to be from the school that knew the kids. Apparently there was a bunch that were developing an app, and were given access by administration. They then used some infiltration tools found online to get at personal information. Administration then removed access, and they hacked in anyway. Hence the expulsion. It wasn&#8217;t clear if the programmer took the fall for someone elses actions also.</p>
<p>In any case I have no idea if any of that is true at all. However either it was a really big over reaction by admin, or we arn&#8217;t getting the whole story, or authors have been writing what sells.</p>
<p>I know I am not convincved that we are hearing at all an unbiased story. That said, it could very well be that he was totally innocent and the school admin totally over reacted and were a bunch of jerks. I know I was outraged by it initially. Or it could be that the story was told by the student and media ran with it without any confirmation from any other sources.</p>
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		<title>By: smut clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>smut clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;rules exist for a reason&quot;

Corporate profits?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;rules exist for a reason&#8221;</p>
<p>Corporate profits?</p>
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		<title>By: mccrum</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636553</link>
		<dc:creator>mccrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look buddy, it says right on it &quot;No user serviceable parts inside.&quot;  What else do you need to know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look buddy, it says right on it &#8220;No user serviceable parts inside.&#8221;  What else do you need to know?</p>
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		<title>By: Lothario Escobar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636511</link>
		<dc:creator>Lothario Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G&amp;M lost me a while back with their &quot;mistakes were made&quot; attitude towards police brutality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G&amp;M lost me a while back with their &#8220;mistakes were made&#8221; attitude towards police brutality.</p>
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		<title>By: rocketpjs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636495</link>
		<dc:creator>rocketpjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a subscriber to the Globe for a decade or so, mostly because it was the only paper available out West that wasn&#039;t owned by Conrad Black.  The only other major paper outside his clutches was the Toronto Star, and I was not about to start reading that in Vancouver (since it would not be about my city).

In the rare moments when I am desperate for something to read I still tend to favour the Globe, but less and less.   Their coverage is firmly rooted in Bay Street and the protection of old-money and power in the country.  And I am most certainly not.

In grad school I did a multi-year comparison of the Globe, the National Post and a few minor papers looking at their depiction of climate change, Kyoto and the various political, activist and business interests involved.  The Globe came out looking fairly good in comparison to the Post as far as balanced coverage, but none of them were ever taking the issue remotely seriously.  The Post routinely mocked, while the Globe mostly just ignored.  Of course, to my knowledge only about 3-4 people ever read my thesis, and now it is well out of date anyways.

I am not surprised at their dismissive attitude.  If you ever want to know what position the Globe will take, first figure out the interests of the Toronto Club (rich guys club in Toronto) and the Chamber of Commerce (specifically the Ontario Chamber of Commerce), then extrapolate.  If they have an interest, you will literally never be wrong in assuming the Globe will promote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a subscriber to the Globe for a decade or so, mostly because it was the only paper available out West that wasn&#8217;t owned by Conrad Black.  The only other major paper outside his clutches was the Toronto Star, and I was not about to start reading that in Vancouver (since it would not be about my city).</p>
<p>In the rare moments when I am desperate for something to read I still tend to favour the Globe, but less and less.   Their coverage is firmly rooted in Bay Street and the protection of old-money and power in the country.  And I am most certainly not.</p>
<p>In grad school I did a multi-year comparison of the Globe, the National Post and a few minor papers looking at their depiction of climate change, Kyoto and the various political, activist and business interests involved.  The Globe came out looking fairly good in comparison to the Post as far as balanced coverage, but none of them were ever taking the issue remotely seriously.  The Post routinely mocked, while the Globe mostly just ignored.  Of course, to my knowledge only about 3-4 people ever read my thesis, and now it is well out of date anyways.</p>
<p>I am not surprised at their dismissive attitude.  If you ever want to know what position the Globe will take, first figure out the interests of the Toronto Club (rich guys club in Toronto) and the Chamber of Commerce (specifically the Ontario Chamber of Commerce), then extrapolate.  If they have an interest, you will literally never be wrong in assuming the Globe will promote it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636485</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Given that this article represents the opinion of the entire editorial board then I am not at all surprised by its tone.  In my experience the farther up the managerial/corporate/bureaucratic food chain you go the less they understand how things actually work.

I suspect that from a board&#039;s perspective the entire organization looks like it is just a set of rules and of course any breaking of the rules should be punished.  (Unless doing so punishes them as in the case of Margaret Wente.)

Another attitude I find common from upper management is that when there is a risk due to a system vulnerability they see pursuing legal action after a breach as roughly equivalent to just fixing the vulnerability.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, vulnerabilities are often very difficult to fix.  However, I think too often the focus is on punishing rather than fixing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Given that this article represents the opinion of the entire editorial board then I am not at all surprised by its tone.  In my experience the farther up the managerial/corporate/bureaucratic food chain you go the less they understand how things actually work.</p>
<p>I suspect that from a board&#8217;s perspective the entire organization looks like it is just a set of rules and of course any breaking of the rules should be punished.  (Unless doing so punishes them as in the case of Margaret Wente.)</p>
<p>Another attitude I find common from upper management is that when there is a risk due to a system vulnerability they see pursuing legal action after a breach as roughly equivalent to just fixing the vulnerability.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, vulnerabilities are often very difficult to fix.  However, I think too often the focus is on punishing rather than fixing.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636474</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did it become wrong to stop expecting newspapers to know something about the subjects they&#039;re writing about? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did it become wrong to stop expecting newspapers to know something about the subjects they&#8217;re writing about? </p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636419</link>
		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those buffoons. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those buffoons. </p>
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		<title>By: shaweetz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636410</link>
		<dc:creator>shaweetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to give the authors more credit for their position, which is a perfectly sensible one if you believe that such vacuous hit pieces are specifically designed to poke the beehive and drive traffic.

The alternative is to believe that otherwise intelligent people are as dumb and uninformed as they sound.  I don&#039;t buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to give the authors more credit for their position, which is a perfectly sensible one if you believe that such vacuous hit pieces are specifically designed to poke the beehive and drive traffic.</p>
<p>The alternative is to believe that otherwise intelligent people are as dumb and uninformed as they sound.  I don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: tlwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I quite like the Globe and Mail, but its stance on Global Warming has been a long term failure.  They went through a succession of science editors, who kept quitting because they had a policy of ignoring it.

Anyway, preparing my letter expressing my disapproval of their &quot;adherence to the law should trump common-sense&quot; editorial.

The Wente scandal I&#039;d call bad journalism rather than plagiarism, but then I&#039;d call Al-Kabaz&#039;s actions trying to be helpful rather than illegal access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I quite like the Globe and Mail, but its stance on Global Warming has been a long term failure.  They went through a succession of science editors, who kept quitting because they had a policy of ignoring it.</p>
<p>Anyway, preparing my letter expressing my disapproval of their &#8220;adherence to the law should trump common-sense&#8221; editorial.</p>
<p>The Wente scandal I&#8217;d call bad journalism rather than plagiarism, but then I&#8217;d call Al-Kabaz&#8217;s actions trying to be helpful rather than illegal access.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemoutan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemoutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stroturf </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stroturf </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636335</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the argument is that no one should look inside any box whether that box lid is open, closed, locked, unlocked, full of holes,holds trash, holds treasure, holds a small baby,etc. No one should try to learn how to make their own boxes or improve the boxes around them? Because we all know those boxes were made perfect to begin with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the argument is that no one should look inside any box whether that box lid is open, closed, locked, unlocked, full of holes,holds trash, holds treasure, holds a small baby,etc. No one should try to learn how to make their own boxes or improve the boxes around them? Because we all know those boxes were made perfect to begin with?</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t seen the G&amp;M since they went behind a paywall. They did that to drive business to other papers more deserving of a tiny subscription fee, as a favour I guess. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t seen the G&amp;M since they went behind a paywall. They did that to drive business to other papers more deserving of a tiny subscription fee, as a favour I guess. </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Pierce</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636293</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello slippery slope:
&quot;the international hacking community&quot; ►
&quot;cybercriminals&quot; ►
&quot;terrorists&quot; ►
&quot;al qaeda&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello slippery slope:<br />
&#8220;the international hacking community&#8221; ►<br />
&#8220;cybercriminals&#8221; ►<br />
&#8220;terrorists&#8221; ►<br />
&#8220;al qaeda&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/01/24/globe-and-mail-runs-loony-scre.html#comment-1636288</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G &amp; M&#039;s comments section is sadly not worth contributing to - the writers and editors clearly don&#039;t read it, it&#039;s often a cesspool of vile racism, misinformed spittle-flecked invective, and internet tough-guyism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G &amp; M&#8217;s comments section is sadly not worth contributing to &#8211; the writers and editors clearly don&#8217;t read it, it&#8217;s often a cesspool of vile racism, misinformed spittle-flecked invective, and internet tough-guyism.</p>
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		<title>By: mikei</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today their ever-brilliant columnist Margaret Wente, whose plagiarism is referenced above, has a piece called &quot;Whatever Happened To Global Warming?&quot;  You know, one of those &quot;Now I&#039;m not denying that global warming is real, but to do anything about it would be a serious mistake.&quot;  They definitely know who their masters are down there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today their ever-brilliant columnist Margaret Wente, whose plagiarism is referenced above, has a piece called &#8220;Whatever Happened To Global Warming?&#8221;  You know, one of those &#8220;Now I&#8217;m not denying that global warming is real, but to do anything about it would be a serious mistake.&#8221;  They definitely know who their masters are down there.</p>
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		<title>By: mikei</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find it online, but I believe the headline was &quot;Divided States of America.&quot;  Something like that.  Didn&#039;t mention Obama, and wasn&#039;t even the top story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find it online, but I believe the headline was &#8220;Divided States of America.&#8221;  Something like that.  Didn&#8217;t mention Obama, and wasn&#8217;t even the top story.</p>
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		<title>By: mccrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>mccrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine was an implication that something untoward was likely to happen if they&#039;re going to go on about persecuting hackers.  I would comment, but I don&#039;t care about them enough to urge them to change their policy.  They want to run crazy things up their petard and I&#039;m willing to watch them.  I like my view from here, I have a big bucket of popcorn and a really comfortable chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine was an implication that something untoward was likely to happen if they&#8217;re going to go on about persecuting hackers.  I would comment, but I don&#8217;t care about them enough to urge them to change their policy.  They want to run crazy things up their petard and I&#8217;m willing to watch them.  I like my view from here, I have a big bucket of popcorn and a really comfortable chair.</p>
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		<title>By: mccrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>mccrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this neighbor to your South who barely bothers to read newspapers down here, would you care to sum up their response?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this neighbor to your South who barely bothers to read newspapers down here, would you care to sum up their response?</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify one point:

The Globe makes clear that when an argument has an author&#039;s name on it, it&#039;s just that author&#039;s opinion, not one supported by the paper as an institution.  It regularly publishes individual bylined essays by different writers that take completely opposite views on an issue.  This is different.

That piece is an editorial - it&#039;s got no cited author because it was supposedly written by, and represents the opinion of, the entire editorial board.  In other words, it&#039;s as close as a newspaper can get to an official declaration.  It was vetted by all the most senior staff at the paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify one point:</p>
<p>The Globe makes clear that when an argument has an author&#8217;s name on it, it&#8217;s just that author&#8217;s opinion, not one supported by the paper as an institution.  It regularly publishes individual bylined essays by different writers that take completely opposite views on an issue.  This is different.</p>
<p>That piece is an editorial &#8211; it&#8217;s got no cited author because it was supposedly written by, and represents the opinion of, the entire editorial board.  In other words, it&#8217;s as close as a newspaper can get to an official declaration.  It was vetted by all the most senior staff at the paper.</p>
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		<title>By: technogeekagain</title>
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		<dc:creator>technogeekagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Next step: Send a copy of that letter to the editors of the competing papers, with a cover letter saying &quot;Thought you&#039;d be interested/amused that the Globe and Mail got a technology story wrong again. I trust you can do better.&quot;

That both helps keep the errors from propagating, and holds the G&amp;M&#039;s feet to the fire -- if they don&#039;t correct themselves, their competitors will correct them, which is a bigger problem.

If you really want to nail that down, add a PS to the G&amp;M&#039;s letter saying you&#039;re doing this. Put it as &quot;in the interest of accurate reporting&quot; -- again, you want to give them a chance to save face by agreeing with you, so you don&#039;t want to come across as adversarial unless you absolutely must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Next step: Send a copy of that letter to the editors of the competing papers, with a cover letter saying &#8220;Thought you&#8217;d be interested/amused that the Globe and Mail got a technology story wrong again. I trust you can do better.&#8221;</p>
<p>That both helps keep the errors from propagating, and holds the G&amp;M&#8217;s feet to the fire &#8212; if they don&#8217;t correct themselves, their competitors will correct them, which is a bigger problem.</p>
<p>If you really want to nail that down, add a PS to the G&amp;M&#8217;s letter saying you&#8217;re doing this. Put it as &#8220;in the interest of accurate reporting&#8221; &#8212; again, you want to give them a chance to save face by agreeing with you, so you don&#8217;t want to come across as adversarial unless you absolutely must.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Site&#039;s up, and fast. And has a moderated comment section where you could do as @boingboing-3c5f649c852dd2623fc23d6baca7660a:disqus suggested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Site&#8217;s up, and fast. And has a moderated comment section where you could do as @boingboing-3c5f649c852dd2623fc23d6baca7660a:disqus suggested.</p>
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		<title>By: Nell Anvoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell Anvoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well....yet another glaring example of why the &quot;traditional media&quot; is sliding into oblivion as the information age changes the world too fast for it to keep up. Talk about &quot;uninformed opinion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;.yet another glaring example of why the &#8220;traditional media&#8221; is sliding into oblivion as the information age changes the world too fast for it to keep up. Talk about &#8220;uninformed opinion.&#8221;</p>
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