Xeni Jardin at 1:23 pm Fri, Jan 25, 2013
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Sigh. Because, like, the whole gender role thing is binary. But, binary as in, are you Betty or are you Veronica. It hits stores February 7. More pix here. (HT: @marynmck)
Haha wasn’t this same concept a rejected Sterling Cooper campaign? It was tired in fictional 1960-something.
I feel like this came from a Mad Men episode. (They actually did Jackie or Marilyn, but yea, it was this)
Bad news Betty and Veronica, that is the gayest Archie ever. He’s so gay he has sculpted his hair to look like a muff.
Should’ve gone for the Hashtag Mullet.
Archie’s taste includes both snails and oysters.
/pricks up ears
Well, I’m more of a Jughead anyway.
We seriously all came to the comments just to say that.
This. Leaving in a huff, lest someone accuse me of incipient Weatherbee-hood.
I wanted to be, but I couldn’t find the hat.
That’s not Betty and Veronica from Archie Comics!
It’s Betty Page and Dyanne Thorne.
And Archie looks like Damien Lewis.
I’m a Betty.
Wait, guys can answer too, right?
I don’t think that they’re referring to Sweaty Bettys.
MAC Cosmetics doesn’t ask that question—the Racked post (and source Fashion post) does. Unless we’re just outraged on the assumption that they’re asking.
It’s worth looking at the actual products which use the comic art quite well. But yeah, those models are straight outta Vampire Diaries.
What, no Miss Grundy option? Really?
Um. Its a collection based around the makeup style worn by the characters? Not the character’s/user’s personality/gendertype itself. What exactly is the problem?
If a football manufacturer marketed a football that was better for one style of throwing technique, and another ball better at a different technique, is that saying all throwers of footballs (typically male as they may be) MUST fall into one of these categories? Or that these balls could be purchased by those who happen to throw in such a style, to enable better throws?
Indeed. What’s more — a lot of women like to look (traditionally and conventionally) pretty and wear make-up to do so. A lot of them are blonde or brunette. A lot of them have fond memories of old comics.
It’s possible to enjoy traditional gender roles and existing archetypes of female beauty without forcing them on others.
The correct either/or question will always be ‘Ginger or Mary Ann’
Some of us go for the Loveys.
Those of us whose television watching straddled the 1960’s and 1970’s may opt for “Jennifer Marlowe or Bailey Quarters.”
Bailey, without question. Jennifer was great to look at, but a bit… well, frosty; a bit smug. Those big lens-less glasses on Bailey…mmmmm.
For me it was Morticia or Jeannie………I lie, Morticia always won.
Not ‘Betty or Wilma’?
Wait, what about Patty or Cathy Lane?? And they were at least different :)
I’d go with Betty but I’d be thinking of Wilma.
Weren’t Betty and Veronica supposed to be different?
I was thinking the same same thing, the image misses the whole good girl/bad girl vibe and instead says “Fuck it. Let’s have a threesome.”
Given how much makeup they’re wearing, all three of them could be the same model.
They forgot Cheryl Blossom! Life isn’t so simple that you can just leave out the third option.
Penny Century would’ve frightened the poor lad to death, but not before Maggie and Hopey got Doyle and Mike to kick his ass.
Ah, yes, the Virgin-or-Whore?! thing. HOW ORIGINAL!
You’re criticizing a dynamic between teenagers in a 70+ year old children’s comic book series for not having a nuanced portrayal of the various modalities of real-world adult relationships?
I’m not sure that asking for a better approximation than virgin or whore really constitutes a demand for nuance.
Um. No… I was criticizing a 2013 MAC advertisement that is using a 70+ year old comic that no one reads any more to utilize the overused virgin/whore trope.
I mean … dude.
Ok, Archie did not bling it up. Specially not with 4 earrings.
Yeah. As a geek kid who actually sometimes read Archie comic books – this has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank. Betty cannot be a skank.
Stolen from a Mad Men episode!!
What about Midge and Ethel?
Yes, leave that Archie Andrews out of this, and lets have some diversity of body type and intellect.
Totally a Betty.
Which is odd, as I’m a straight, cisgender male. Go figure.
Well, to be fair, Mac also has a Wonder Woman line coming out.
No products for Archie?
dont worry Xeni, we are the change we want to create. we’ll get there but knowing the pit holes facing us is necessary so we can fill them and move on. no sighing needed but totally understood.
I can almost smell stale cigarettes and cheap perfume through that picture.
I’ll take the adorable Archie lookalike. I’m sure he’s about as into those two frau…cough…leins as I am.
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