Comments on: Elfquest: Welcoming the newborn http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 01:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Wyldenay http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1643789 Wyldenay Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1643789 Sunstream has the benefit of having a dark-skinned mother (genetically) while Brill IS actually very light of skin, though a different hue. I love her skin color. But remember that Cutter is very pale. It's possible she inherited some of Grandpa's skin genetics. Additionally, babies are usually born very light skinnned anyway, even black babies have been known to be born "white" due to the melatonin in their skin not being fully functional. It can take hours or days, even weeks for such a baby to get its dark skin. In the past, women could be accused of cheating for giving birth to a light-skinned baby when it simply wasn't true. Of course, as Wendy might point out, elf genetics are not the same as human genetics so I'm only guessing here based on what I know. Sunstream has the benefit of having a dark-skinned mother (genetically) while Brill IS actually very light of skin, though a different hue. I love her skin color. But remember that Cutter is very pale. It’s possible she inherited some of Grandpa’s skin genetics. Additionally, babies are usually born very light skinnned anyway, even black babies have been known to be born “white” due to the melatonin in their skin not being fully functional. It can take hours or days, even weeks for such a baby to get its dark skin. In the past, women could be accused of cheating for giving birth to a light-skinned baby when it simply wasn’t true.

Of course, as Wendy might point out, elf genetics are not the same as human genetics so I’m only guessing here based on what I know.

]]> By: Wyldenay http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1643785 Wyldenay Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1643785 That's also why weapons that use sound can severely impair the hearing of aquatic mammals. I used to feel so angry when I was in the Navy and entire pods of dolphins would be found dead or lost entirely because the Navy was testing out something THEY thought was harmless. In the articals, they would scratch their heads and say, "Wasn't us," and go on and test something new. Underwater sound is an amazing thing. That’s also why weapons that use sound can severely impair the hearing of aquatic mammals. I used to feel so angry when I was in the Navy and entire pods of dolphins would be found dead or lost entirely because the Navy was testing out something THEY thought was harmless. In the articals, they would scratch their heads and say, “Wasn’t us,” and go on and test something new. Underwater sound is an amazing thing.

]]> By: David Miz http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1642972 David Miz Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1642972 I should have added that for marine mammals on Earth, aural sound is very much a part of their communication (think whales and dolphins).  Sound actually travels really far in the water, much further than it does on land, so the fact that Wavedancers tend to do it when they feel safe rings true to the real world.  You just have to have the right kind of ear construction to hear it. I should have added that for marine mammals on Earth, aural sound is very much a part of their communication (think whales and dolphins).  Sound actually travels really far in the water, much further than it does on land, so the fact that Wavedancers tend to do it when they feel safe rings true to the real world.  You just have to have the right kind of ear construction to hear it.

]]> By: Elfquest http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1640333 Elfquest Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1640333 @facebook-1163825713:disqus @ - David Miz is correct. Precedent has long been set that the Wavedancers talk underwater (most often when they feel safe). Anyone ever been snorkeling in the Carribean? Richard and I discovered we could talk to each other briefly through our masks...mostly we did it to exclaim over something gorgeous or to laugh. In my mind, Brill and Sunstream are kind of laugh/speaking in the last panel. Perhaps we'll include laugh fx when the book goes to print. @Everyone:disqus  FYI - What's baby Korafay's soul name...or Brill's? Well, as Richard and I view 2013 Elfquest canon, the use of soul names is, by and large, a Wolfrider thing. Immortal Sunstream has a soul name because of his early Wolfrider upbringing and whatever genetic heritage from his mortal dad, Cutter, he retains. The Wolfriders are the rugged individualists of the World of Two Moons (yep, even more so than the Go-Backs), requiring soul names to preserve their innermost privacy. Conversely, the Wavedancers are more of one heart and one mind than any other elf tribe. From ancient times they've been deeply dependent on sending for silent communication on the surface or underwater. As a result, they are intimately psychically bonded...a "school" we might say. Anyhow, this is how Richard and I see the Wavedancers today. It makes sense to us...and makes for great story opportunities, too. Wendy Pini @facebook-1163825713:disqus
@ – David Miz is correct. Precedent has long been set that the Wavedancers talk underwater (most often when they feel safe). Anyone ever been snorkeling in the Carribean? Richard and I discovered we could talk to each other briefly through our masks…mostly we did it to exclaim over something gorgeous or to laugh. In my mind, Brill and Sunstream are kind of laugh/speaking in the last panel. Perhaps we’ll include laugh fx when the book goes to print.
@Everyone:disqus
 FYI – What’s baby Korafay’s soul name…or Brill’s?
Well, as Richard and I view 2013 Elfquest canon, the use of soul names is, by and large, a Wolfrider thing. Immortal Sunstream has a soul name because of his early Wolfrider upbringing and whatever genetic heritage from his mortal dad, Cutter, he retains. The Wolfriders are the rugged individualists of the World of Two Moons (yep, even more so than the Go-Backs), requiring soul names to preserve their innermost privacy. Conversely, the Wavedancers are more of one heart and one mind than any other elf tribe. From ancient times they’ve been deeply dependent on sending for silent communication on the surface or underwater. As a result, they are intimately psychically bonded…a “school” we might say. Anyhow, this is how Richard and I see the Wavedancers today. It makes sense to us…and makes for great story opportunities, too.

Wendy Pini

]]> By: Suzanne Boom http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1640019 Suzanne Boom Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1640019 Well, Jink does have white hair and green eyes.... :) Well, Jink does have white hair and green eyes…. :)

]]> By: David Miz http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639882 David Miz Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639882 They are always depicted as speaking underwater.  Obviously there's something different about their inner ear workings that allows them to hear underwater more effectively than purely terrestrial creatures.  But I agree, sending would seem more logical underwater. They are always depicted as speaking underwater.  Obviously there’s something different about their inner ear workings that allows them to hear underwater more effectively than purely terrestrial creatures.  But I agree, sending would seem more logical underwater.

]]> By: William Clark http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639870 William Clark Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639870 If they are still underwater in the final panel why are they talking and not sending? And why is the baby so much paler than either of her parents? If they are still underwater in the final panel why are they talking and not sending? And why is the baby so much paler than either of her parents?

]]> By: David Miz http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639849 David Miz Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639849 Where do we see Freefoot's eye color clearly?  I can't think of any place in the comics.  Or are you basing this on a description in the Blood of Ten Chiefs books? Where do we see Freefoot’s eye color clearly?  I can’t think of any place in the comics.  Or are you basing this on a description in the Blood of Ten Chiefs books?

]]> By: David Miz http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639848 David Miz Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639848 Here's the link to the first issue of the Kahvi miniseries.  http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/KA/KA01/_Kahvi%20-%201_page=1#_1   And make sure to read the Two-Spear miniseries too!  ;-) Here’s the link to the first issue of the Kahvi miniseries.  http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/KA/KA01/_Kahvi%20-%201_page=1#_1  

And make sure to read the Two-Spear miniseries too!  ;-)

]]> By: Emby Quinn http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639840 Emby Quinn Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639840 Now I know why Pike in your icon looks so befuzzled--the genespeak makes even MY head go all hurty. (Yes, I know it's a panel from the OQ. Get off me.) ;) Now I know why Pike in your icon looks so befuzzled–the genespeak makes even MY head go all hurty.

(Yes, I know it’s a panel from the OQ. Get off me.) ;)

]]> By: Emby Quinn http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639838 Emby Quinn Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639838 From what I recall, all elves speak the same language, albeit they each have different dialects shaped by the circumstances of their lifestyles. The Wolfriders and Go-Backs (for example) speak in a far rougher and more colloquial fashion than the Sun Folk or the Gliders, but they all understand each other perfectly well. From what I recall, all elves speak the same language, albeit they each have different dialects shaped by the circumstances of their lifestyles. The Wolfriders and Go-Backs (for example) speak in a far rougher and more colloquial fashion than the Sun Folk or the Gliders, but they all understand each other perfectly well.

]]> By: Tavie http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639773 Tavie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639773  Rob is Pike Purple-Eyes!  Rob is Pike Purple-Eyes!

]]> By: Stella http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639741 Stella Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639741 So cute!! Love her name. Its so different from the names we are used to. So cute!! Love her name. Its so different from the names we are used to.

]]> By: Kristin Hunt http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639740 Kristin Hunt Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639740 Korafay is  bit strange, but not unexpected.  I mean the Wavedances can easily  simply speak an off-varient of the elfen language. Korafay is  bit strange, but not unexpected.  I mean the Wavedances can easily  simply speak an off-varient of the elfen language.

]]> By: Cayr Ariel Wulff http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639699 Cayr Ariel Wulff Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639699 Korafay seems a strange tribe name. At first read, I thought that was her soul name and that this might be Jink.  Korafay seems a strange tribe name. At first read, I thought that was her soul name and that this might be Jink. 

]]> By: Elizabeth Szubert http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639656 Elizabeth Szubert Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639656 Awesome - I did not know that.  I now need to go read it.  :) Awesome – I did not know that.  I now need to go read it.  :)

]]> By: giraudebenet http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639651 giraudebenet Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639651 Leetah and Tyleet are descriptive names --  Leetah means "Healing Light" and Tyleet means "Healer's Gift." Leetah and Tyleet are descriptive names –  Leetah means “Healing Light” and Tyleet means “Healer’s Gift.”

]]> By: Performance Interval http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639630 Performance Interval Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639630 In before "Has anyone ever told you that you are the spitting image..." In before “Has anyone ever told you that you are the spitting image…”

]]> By: Josine Meijer http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639619 Josine Meijer Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639619  She is Two-Spear's daughter, as you can read in her own series KAHVI ;)  She is Two-Spear’s daughter, as you can read in her own series KAHVI ;)

]]> By: Kristin Hunt http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639584 Kristin Hunt Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639584 KORAFAY!  (Coral Fae?) Which is an approrpiete name for this little gir lwith her 'wings'. She's so cute!  I think she's going to be an interesting wave dancer (webbed and  cute) KORAFAY!  (Coral Fae?) Which is an approrpiete name for this little gir lwith her ‘wings’. She’s so cute!  I think she’s going to be an interesting wave dancer (webbed and  cute)

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639568 Rob Beschizza Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639568 By the way, Wendy has a great eye for keeping this stuff subtly grounded in reality, even when its wildly fantastical. Take the two main characters with purplish eyes, for example--a color that does not really exist in human populations, but which is often observed among two particular groups, anecdotally. Firstly, in pale, dark-haired eastern europeans, where the iris is very nearly black and appears a rich purple under warm lighting (but not sunlight) -- Liz Taylor being a good example.  Second, in people with light red hair, who lack eumelanin generally and have grayish eyes. These appear blue in natural light (presumably the result of Rayleigh scattering in the cornea), but it takes on a lavender hue under ... certain environmental conditions. By the way, Wendy has a great eye for keeping this stuff subtly grounded in reality, even when its wildly fantastical. Take the two main characters with purplish eyes, for example–a color that does not really exist in human populations, but which is often observed among two particular groups, anecdotally.

Firstly, in pale, dark-haired eastern europeans, where the iris is very nearly black and appears a rich purple under warm lighting (but not sunlight) — Liz Taylor being a good example. 

Second, in people with light red hair, who lack eumelanin generally and have grayish eyes. These appear blue in natural light (presumably the result of Rayleigh scattering in the cornea), but it takes on a lavender hue under … certain environmental conditions.

]]> By: Jakob Rune Hansen http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639564 Jakob Rune Hansen Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639564 *sudden realisation*Korafay.... Coral Fae? *sudden realisation*Korafay…. Coral Fae?

]]> By: Elizabeth Szubert http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639561 Elizabeth Szubert Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639561 From what I know, Kahvi is not a Wolfrider.  She is/was Chief of the Go-Backs, which is not a Wolfrider tribe.  There has been speculation that the Go-Backs are the splint of Wolfriders that followed Two Spear but I haven't seen it in official canon.  She joined the Wolfriders for a while during the saga of the Broken Wheel because she was looking for Rayek but then left with Tyldak to find a way back to the Go-Backs over land. That said, I haven't read everything just yet.   From what I know, Kahvi is not a Wolfrider.  She is/was Chief of the Go-Backs, which is not a Wolfrider tribe.  There has been speculation that the Go-Backs are the splint of Wolfriders that followed Two Spear but I haven’t seen it in official canon.  She joined the Wolfriders for a while during the saga of the Broken Wheel because she was looking for Rayek but then left with Tyldak to find a way back to the Go-Backs over land.

That said, I haven’t read everything just yet.  

]]> By: David Miz http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639557 David Miz Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639557 I hestitated to include Rainsong because her eyes do lean towards the violet end of things.  I guess Newstar's do too based on her childhood back-cover portrait. I hestitated to include Rainsong because her eyes do lean towards the violet end of things.  I guess Newstar’s do too based on her childhood back-cover portrait.

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639546 Rob Beschizza Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639546 Freefoot has unambiguously not-blue (i.e. brown!) eyes  Freefoot has unambiguously not-blue (i.e. brown!) eyes 

]]> By: Tavie http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639466 Tavie Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639466 Rainsong and Newstar have purple eyes. Rainsong and Newstar have purple eyes.

]]> By: John VanOrder http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639456 John VanOrder Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639456 More pages! More Pages!!! Pant pant.....  More pages! More Pages!!! Pant pant….. 

]]> By: Leigh Gregminster http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639435 Leigh Gregminster Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639435 Maybe Kahvi doesn't know her soul name yet, or lost it somehow. It's okay if she doesn't have one, but it's strange. Maybe Kahvi doesn’t know her soul name yet, or lost it somehow. It’s okay if she doesn’t have one, but it’s strange.

]]> By: David Miz http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639402 David Miz Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639402 Mender has gray eyes, and so does Yun.  Which ones are you thinking of, Rob?  Joyleaf, Treestump, Dewshine, Eyes-High, Newstar, Wing, Rainsong and I think Woodlock (it's hard to tell) all have blue eyes. Mender has gray eyes, and so does Yun.  Which ones are you thinking of, Rob?  Joyleaf, Treestump, Dewshine, Eyes-High, Newstar, Wing, Rainsong and I think Woodlock (it’s hard to tell) all have blue eyes.

]]> By: Tavie http://boingboing.net/2013/01/28/elfquest-welcoming-the-newbor.html#comment-1639401 Tavie Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=208705#comment-1639401  Hm, good point - about them being translated into English for us. That works for me.  Hm, good point – about them being translated into English for us. That works for me.

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