The Russians: "Human DNA can be changed and rearranged with spoken words and phrases"

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53 Responses to “The Russians: "Human DNA can be changed and rearranged with spoken words and phrases"”

  1. SamSam says:

    Sweet! Speak some fire-breathing dragon DNA into me please!

  2. Dave Jenkins says:

    Paul Muad’Dib approves.

  3. CSBD says:

    Im waiting for some sort of NIH funded confirmation… it smells a little too much like red mercury to me to accept at this point.

  4. Very important: You need the right frequency _and_ polarity! We know from Star Trek what can happen if you reverse polarity

  5. Brainspore says:

    FUN FACT: If you recite The Great Gatsby backwards it will cure Phenylketonuria.

  6. spenze says:

    Are there crystals involved? And if not, how might I incorporate them?

  7. Claudio Bonifazi says:

    just don’t cross the streams

  8. Didn’t any of you people have a DNA Whisperer where you grew up?  Every little village has one.  Some people just know how to sweet-talk the helix, is all.
    It’s a dying art, though.  Once the ability to receive Hypercommunication goes, it gets so you can’t find a good DNA Whisperer anywhere in the non-locality.

  9. TheOven says:

    “…they transformed frog embryos into salamander embryos without lifting a single scalpel or making one incision”

    They sung to it.

  10. enzomedici says:

    Hummina hummina hummina….

  11. redesigned says:

     i see someone graduated from the creation science academy!

  12. Clinton says:

    I wonder if the Russians are planning on weaponizing the Asherah neurolinguistic virus. Where is Hiro Protagonist and the Nam-Shub of Enki when you need them?

  13. insert says:

    It’s also possible to reconfigure the color of organic fibers (e.g. the clothing worn by your enemies) by chanting something that sounds a lot like “Wololo wololo wololo.”

  14. Who’s thinking Pontypool?…

    “Sydney Briar is alive”

  15. chenille says:

    For some creatures, like ants, hypercommunication is woven into daily existence. Did you know that when a queen ant is physically removed from her colony, her subjects continue to work and build according to plan? If she’s killed, however, the ants become aimless and all work instantly halts.

    Well, this at least is a good point, although the translation is a little off – only the context makes it clear what “ants” was supposed to mean. Unfortunately it’s become difficult to investigate, seeing as how Ender killed all of them.

  16. angusm says:

    Of course you have to use the right spoken phrase. I’m thinking “Wait until he’s standing right by the gamma source, then drop the lead shields” would do it.

  17. piff_smoke says:

    Honestly, this is not too hopelessly farfetched.

    First:

    We know that adult DNA– The actual DNA sequence– *is* actively remodeled and changed. This is still a pretty recent topic, but the most well characterized mechanisms deal with ‘retrotransposon elements.’ Some of these retrotransposons, such as the Line-1 element, are shown to be important for adult hippocampal neurogenesis, and are *probably* important for learning and memory though this might not have been demonstrated yet.

    We also know that DNA is remodeled on another scale– So-called ‘epigenetics–’ which comprise a *vast* array of chemical modifications which regulate when, where, and how various pieces of DNA are expressed. We know that these processes are *critically important* for learning, memory, behavioral conditioning, and so forth. We also know that these processes are “disrupted” in various psychopathologies.

    The overwhelming complexity of these processes, and how they relate to one another, cannot be overstated.

    So, in summary, we know that adult DNA is constantly being remodeled, and that this is “very important” for “cognition.”

    Second:

    We know that experience, behavior, language, stress etc. all affect epigenetic processes.

    We know that *talk* therapy is a better “cure” for depression than most drugs on the market (obviously this is a gross oversimplification).

    We know that language can *profoundly* affect stress. Stress (defined as HPA axis activity) critically affects learning, memory, behavior, and lots of things that are traditionally thought of as being ‘physiological.’

    We know that language can profoundly affect learning and memory, which are fundamentally chemical processes.

    In summary, we know that language and ‘thinking’ can lead to chemical modification of DNA, by the most well-characterized epigenetic mechanisms.

    Therefore, it’s completely plausible that language can also affect DNA at the sequence level because there is a plausible mechanism for this: Language-mediated epigenetic regulation of retrotransposon elements.

    I do not want to waste the time on Pubmed and Google Scholar following up any more because I honestly don’t care enough. But maybe one of you bright young things that actually believes ‘neuroscience’ isn’t a stupid buzzword will do a PhD on it or some shit.

    • chenille says:

      It also seems you don’t care enough to read even the excerpt to see what they meant…but did enough to write a dozen paragraphs based only on the headline.
      That is a very specific level of not caring.

      • piff_smoke says:

        The headline, and a few particular phrases in the article, are at the heart of an interesting question in current biology. This is obscured by most of the article.

        It’s possible, of course, to read it as a “lol xD those crazy russians” story, or a “look at these stupid people who believe stupid things” story, or even a “evil pseudoscientists” story.

        Stories about people believing pseudoscience are neither novel nor worthy of discussion.

        Reading the piece somewhat more critically, a number of social and scientific tidbits jump out as being worth thinking about.

        The tidbit that jumped out at me, because of my profession and training, happened to be the article’s distorted view of reasonably good science.

        It’s interesting to find distorted truth in writing that’s obviously crap, and to examine the process by which current research becomes new age pseudomedicine. This, I hope, is obvious.

        Incidentally, it’s also a nice way to bring up the topic of retrotransposons.

        Hopefully that clarified things!

        • C W says:

          “It’s interesting to find distorted truth in writing that’s obviously crap”

          Spew out enough bullshit and you’ll hear something plausible.

          • OtherMichael says:

            Ever read something in the mainstream media about the God particle?

            Did it leave you feeling that the writer had a sound understanding of the issues, and imparted knowledge to you?

            Or that they thought the whole thing was a laugh-riot or a waste of tax-money?

    • C W says:

      “I do not want to waste the time on Pubmed and Google Scholar following up any more because I honestly don’t care enough”

      Quelle surprise!

  18. Steve Taylor says:

    There was an excellent piece in the New Yorker about a linguistics hobbyist who had created his own incredibly complicated language with the aim of being able to express ideas with absolute precision.

    He remained an obscure hobbyist for many years until there was a groundswell of interest in his work in Russia. They flew him over to Russia for a conference, where he was appalled to find that his language was the centerpiece of a program to turn a bunch a slavic nationalists into supermen, so they could purge Russia of all corrupting foreigh/dark skinned/Jewish influences. They were also into an oddball mental discipline called “Psychonetics”.

    I’m wondering if these might be some of the same people.

  19. dragonfrog says:

    Through the application of modulated radio and light frequencies, the Russians were able to influence cellular metabolism
    De-bullshitified:  We turned on the television and the kids calmed right down.  Sergei managed to get some work done, and his blood pressure went down too.

  20. John Merlin says:

    The person doing the talking has to be the Dovahkiin.

  21. Lemoutan says:

    Does this mean that the application of transformational grammars on our DNA can be used to change us from organisms implemented as statements to organisms expressed as questions? I think I’d like to be remodelled in the pluperfect.

  22. Snig says:

    I just did a facepalm and the percussion of the slap rearranged my DNA.  All better now. 

  23. smut clyde says:

    I feel obliged in the interests of random pedantry to point out that this particular line of fiction was popular over 5 years ago, when Orac was making fun of it:
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/10/19/your-friday-dose-of-woo-reprogram-your-d/

    At the Undergroundhealthreporter site they don’t believe in dating their articles, so I have no idea how recently they stumbled upon it.

  24. miasm says:

    What’s the frequency Кеннет?

  25. Rob says:

    It’s obvious that DNA can be changed and affected with words.

    “Hey babe, come here often?” – 9 months later, new DNA

  26. retchdog says:

    “My name is a killing word.”

  27. Marko Raos says:

    Ah, those silly Russians, whenever did ever any of their crazy ideas come to anything…

    Oh, wait…
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsiolkovsky for starters. What a weirdo, “rockets for space travel” while everybody sane knows that it’s either the big guns or balloons which might be conceivably capable of doing the job.. and that “space elevator” thing lol.. i mean it is 1895 and there is the Eiffel tower but… really man, get a grip. Next you’ll be telling us we’ll all be riding around in private motorcars and listening to sounds from the other side of the world via some invisible “waves” and shit.)

  28. Wow–there’s the basis for my next sci-fi masterpiece already figured out FOR me!

  29. C W says:

    Better than Deepak Chopra? This sounds ~exactly~ like “What the Bleep?!” to me.

  30. David Neil says:

    Me thinks some Russian scientists have been dropping some good acid and listening to some early Talking Heads!
    http://youtu.be/Rvjw5xJF8WQ

  31. novium says:

    This just makes me miss Fringe. 

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