Comments on: Noisebridge hackerspace explains fair use to Dreamworks

By: Cowicide

Cowicide — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:04:00 +0000

boingboing.net, critical thinking skills may apply. Just a little advice, timquinn.

By: fakefighter

fakefighter — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:49:00 +0000

I’m willing to bet large sums of money that that film is going to have some horrifying, sensationalistic discussion of his rape accusations. Something about women being scheming bitches. Etc.

By: Xploder

Xploder — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:19:00 +0000

I just re-read your proposed letter and speaking as someone who worked as a legal assistant for a few years, you’re wrong. There are any number of lawyers that not only wouldn’t understand it, they wouldn’t even bother to look up the hard words in a dictionary.

By: Xploder

Xploder — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:17:00 +0000

Truth. Also ironic.

By: timquinn

timquinn — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:45:00 +0000

This is the way to do it. The people in those offices aren’t morons and if they are in entertainment law they are probably not conservatives. Lawyers talk to their clients and lawyers can sense a ground swell. I guarantee this thing is getting the go around at the office and everyone is saying, “Awesome!” with the first syllable higher pitched than usual. They are not fools and if they are paying attention they know the movement is getting its legs and this is a measure of that. They appreciate being treated as living and breathing humans as much as anyone does and good on Noisebridge for taking the time to show the respect that a good rebuttal requires.

By: timquinn

timquinn — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:36:00 +0000

Oy, Cowicide, I suppose if I knew your politics I could tell what you are saying. I think you may have left out one piece of information that would help me understand. That is; who are you talking about? It is possible to read your statement head leaning either way. Seriously. just gimme a clue.

And, no, I don’t care to follow the link to find out if you cant bother to be clear. Just a little brotherly advice, man.

By: Cowicide

Cowicide — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:36:00 +0000

Dreamworks is producing a sensationalized, awful movie about Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

I have to wonder if this just misinformed idiots being misinformed idiots or some sort of blatant agenda against Wikileaks.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/23/wikileaks_legal_advisor_we_steal_secrets

Between this and Zero-Bark-30-Whatever, the propaganda bullshit artists are getting thick around here lately.

By: GouldOldDays

GouldOldDays — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:34:00 +0000

Sounds familiar…
http://boingboing.net/2013/01/19/sita-sings-the-blues-goes-cc0.html#comment-773182735

I wish I could claim the proposed letter I wrote a couple weeks ago in that thread was an original work that Nosebridge knocked off, but the truth is you can’t copyright an idea — especially an idea based on a simple understanding of how the law works.

By: antoinedoinel

antoinedoinel — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 03:22:00 +0000

I know he read a speech for Assange . Know he’s been harassed. Still not sure he’s a member of wikileaks — as in part of the team that did the specific wikileaks work. But if the above article said The Tor Project’s Jacob Appelbaum — that would be truer. My understanding is that he is independent.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 03:03:00 +0000

Heh, touche’.

By: Robert Holmén

Robert Holmén — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 00:52:00 +0000

It would have been smarter to not respond to the request, then when Dreamworks used the logo anyway on the grounds of “fair use” they would have had Dreamworks in a corner on their denials of the legitimacy of fair use.

By: Rindan

Rindan — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 00:17:00 +0000

The movie studios are notorious for taking a big ol’ shit on fair use. Oops, did a few seconds of TV in the background end up in your indie movie? Hope you have $10,000 for the rights to that son… Against assholes like that, why not take a few moments out of your day to tell some assholes that they are assholes?

I would have summed it even simpler. ”No, we don’t give you permission. However, if you think that this is legally fair use, take your chances.” Make them use fair use if they want to include that content.

By: Al Billings

Al Billings — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:59:00 +0000

Actually, he is and, in fact, read a speech for Julian Assange when he couldn’t come to a conference. For his sins, Jake has been harassed by the US government for years now.

By: azaner

azaner — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:18:00 +0000

So, I guess the point is that they came across like dicks.

By: EH

EH — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:08:00 +0000

Who will now reply with something along the lines of, “Yeah, OK, but can you just sign this document giving us permission?”

By: spacedoggy

spacedoggy — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:51:00 +0000

I guess you could say he has been ‘linked’ to wikileaks, in the same way random people/groups around the world are ‘linked’ to al queda in news reports. Reporters don’t have to say what the link is or explain how tenuous it may be. “Hollywood actor Kevin Bacon has been arrested today after authorities have linked him to several key commanders of al queda”

By: antoinedoinel

antoinedoinel — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:33:00 +0000

Jacob Appelbaum is not a member of Wikileaks, I don’t think. He has helped them but it’s not right to call him Wikilieaks’ Jacob Appelbaum

By: Cameron Postelwait

Cameron Postelwait — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:00:00 +0000

solid gold.

probably too subtle for the Dreamworks Execs.

By: wysinwyg

wysinwyg — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:51:00 +0000

Considering that Dreamworks, through the MPAA if not otherwise, has done a lot to try to undermine fair use doctrine I think it is entirely fair and not very condescending to say, “fuck you, but yes obviously you can.”

By: Timothy Krause

Timothy Krause — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:49:00 +0000

Great to see that you yourself miss no such opportunity.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:45:00 +0000

Sigh. “Yes, that’d be fine. We consider this fair use. Thanks for asking.” Was that so hard? Of course, then they would have missed a perfectly good opportunity to be condescending.

By: creesto

creesto — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:26:00 +0000

Noisebridge iz zee craziest peeples!!

By: Timothy Krause

Timothy Krause — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:17:00 +0000

When they kick down your front door
how you gonna come,
with your hands on your head
or on some Photoshoppéd fun?

When the law break in
how you gonna go,
LOLing mightily
or tied up on court row?

You can harsh us,
you can sue us,
but you’ll have to answer to
Oh, the ‘Shoops of Noisebridge

By: pupdog

pupdog — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:59:00 +0000

Something tells me the low-level drudge in Legal at Dreamworks that was tasked with this won’t get it…