I have less sympathy for adults who do this kind of harm, though.

And while it certainly is sexist to say that we should change our culture to strengthen women, I am totally OK with that.  I am OK with working to strengthen the position of  gay black men, too, and I don’t care that it’s racist to single out people of African descent that way.  If somebody’s being preferentially victimized by the system, I want to change the system.

As long as you insist that it’s acceptable for women to be conditioned like Pavlov’s dogs to have uncontrollable physical nausea (instead of rage, which might be more useful, or some sort of serenity, which at least is not physically overpowering) in the face of such violations, you help empower the violators.  That’s not OK with me, and I suspect you all have leaped at the opportunity to castigate me because you know we are all guilty of helping perpetuate the system.

On the other claw, I do sometimes bully people, because I can and because our culture accepts that as a reasonable way to move forward.  So I’ll cop to that in general and agree that I would be a better person if I found less cruel means of achieving my goals.

I stand by what I said, and how I said it.  I think it’s the first step towards doing something about it – stop pretending it’s OK to condition our daughters to be uncontrollably physically weakened by this sort of behavior.  It’s not OK, it’s a clear sign of our warped culture assisting victimization and we should be trying to do something about it.

I mentioned hair because to a middle eastern woman of Islamic culture, hair is extremely private, and would excite the same reaction.

None of this excuses the behavior of the website or its proprietor in any way, but I still wish we could evolve culturally to make it harder to inflict this kind of damage.  And I don’t think we can do that unless we acknowledge that our culture is not perfect in the way that we act towards women’s bodies.

Sure, it’s a shame we have hangups about nudity and sex. But here there are actual suffering people, so that amounts to saying “isn’t it a shame that you can be victimized by something that shouldn’t be a problem for you?”

I wonder if our historically recent cultural obsession with “intellectual property” might make it worse – by more strongly linking images with the concept of property.  At various times in history people have been completely OK with nude images of famous people, although granted such images weren’t so accurate or widely distributed.  But we’re making ever stronger links between representations and the people associated with them… perhaps paving the way for more shame, fear and nausea.

I prefer to believe that cultures can improve, and that we can find ways to make it harder for dirtbags to harm people with mere images.

It feels to me like everyone here is OK with the idea that women should be ashamed of their bodies, that nudity is wholly evil, and that we should all agree to abide entirely by the Book of Genesis’s interpretation as women being the physical source of all evil. Nobody is willing to even suggest that maybe a stronger culture, that did not predispose us to shaming women, would prevent dirtbags from being able to victimize people so easily; it feels like everyone here is totally OK with this sick misogyny and is leaping to defend it.

Our culture’s insistence on the Xian nudity schizophrenia empowers dirtbags to harm women with nude pictures.

Edit: I guess that’s a selfish way to put it, sorry. But it was honest.

In a culture where everyone was naked all the time, the news programs would routinely show pictures of naked people without permission, and nobody would throw up.  Right?

The website is abusive because it manipulates our cultural attitudes about women’s bodies to victimize women – not because there is something wrong with a woman’s naked body.  Bodies are not evil and shameful, this website is the problem and not the women’s bodies.

But I get your point, anyway; you’re right that there’s more to it than just pictures being posted on the Internet, there’s lots of context.

I would feel the same way, because I’ve been conditioned to respond that way by my culture.   Although, personally, I wouldn’t throw up, I’d certainly feel violated and nauseated.

Edit: I listened to it again and would like to re-maximize my original wording. By “brutal” I mean the following exchange:
Bob: Craig, I’m asking you this man to man. Do something else. You can’t rationalize it.
Craig: I can’t rationalize starving either.
Bob: You know what? Starve. … Stand on the median strip in the highway and beg. There’s more dignity in that than in what you’re doing now.

I agree with the sentiment, but it goes beyond just “reasoning” with the guy.