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	<title>Comments on: The bones of Richard III (or, possibly, someone else&#160;entirely)</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/04/the-bones-of-richard-iii-or.html#comment-1646895</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t he go into St. George&#039;s chapel at Windsor?  That&#039;s where most monarchs are buried.</description>
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		<title>By: TooGoodToCheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>TooGoodToCheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking News:  Richard III confirmed dead!  Details at 11:00</description>
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		<title>By: Daneel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daneel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wreckrob8:disqus Sorry, it&#039;s going to be &quot;a solemn multifaith ceremony&quot; in Leicester.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/richard-iii-dna-bones-king

No idea why multifaith, or why Leicester. I&#039;d say he should be buried at York Minster.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wreckrob8:disqus Sorry, it&#8217;s going to be &#8220;a solemn multifaith ceremony&#8221; in Leicester.<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/richard-iii-dna-bones-king" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/richard-iii-dna-bones-king</a></p>
<p>No idea why multifaith, or why Leicester. I&#8217;d say he should be buried at York Minster.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween_Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halloween_Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Sorry, but are you really asserting that there are a number of skeletons with both head injuries and scoliosis found on the site where Richard III was supposedly buried in an unmarked grave? Citation, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Sorry, but are you really asserting that there are a number of skeletons with both head injuries and scoliosis found on the site where Richard III was supposedly buried in an unmarked grave? Citation, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but where should they bury him? Both York and Leicester are claiming the body (and tourist dollars). Whatever. He died a Catholic and should be buried as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but where should they bury him? Both York and Leicester are claiming the body (and tourist dollars). Whatever. He died a Catholic and should be buried as such.</p>
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		<title>By: scav</title>
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		<dc:creator>scav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.  My understanding of it is the DNA test could have *falsified* the hypothesis that it was Richard III, and it didn&#039;t, thereby letting the rest of the evidence stand on its own merits.
The closest relative they could find was a 17th-generation descendant of a cousin. That&#039;s a relatedness factor of about 1 in 260000, calculated naively. But that calculation doesn&#039;t work so well when you are talking about that many generations.To be honest, I&#039;d be surprised if they could find someone who wasn&#039;t that closely related to Richard III anywhere among the population of people with English ancestors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  My understanding of it is the DNA test could have *falsified* the hypothesis that it was Richard III, and it didn&#8217;t, thereby letting the rest of the evidence stand on its own merits.<br />
The closest relative they could find was a 17th-generation descendant of a cousin. That&#8217;s a relatedness factor of about 1 in 260000, calculated naively. But that calculation doesn&#8217;t work so well when you are talking about that many generations.To be honest, I&#8217;d be surprised if they could find someone who wasn&#8217;t that closely related to Richard III anywhere among the population of people with English ancestors.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A geneaology of the maternal line down to Joy Brown, the mother of Michael Ibsen, the tested individual.  http://plantagenetdna.webs.com/table1.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A geneaology of the maternal line down to Joy Brown, the mother of Michael Ibsen, the tested individual.  http://plantagenetdna.webs.com/table1.htm</p>
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		<title>By: dr</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8) They found his Ford Cortina in the parking lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8) They found his Ford Cortina in the parking lot.</p>
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		<title>By: s2redux</title>
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		<dc:creator>s2redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Leicester team is also working to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/media-centre/richard-iii/press-conference-4-february/key-scientific-information/evidence-from-dna-analysis&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;investigate the skeleton&#039;s Y&lt;/a&gt;. So far, they&#039;ve built a good profile of male descendants; apparently it&#039;s fingers-crossed for getting Y out of the bones. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/press-releases/2013/february/university-of-leicester-announces-discovery-of-king-richard-iii&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Full release&lt;/a&gt;, with links to similar PR on the other evidences: radiocarbon, archaeology, genealogy, bone, historical.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Leicester team is also working to <a href="http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/media-centre/richard-iii/press-conference-4-february/key-scientific-information/evidence-from-dna-analysis" rel="nofollow">investigate the skeleton&#8217;s Y</a>. So far, they&#8217;ve built a good profile of male descendants; apparently it&#8217;s fingers-crossed for getting Y out of the bones. (<a href="http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/press-releases/2013/february/university-of-leicester-announces-discovery-of-king-richard-iii" rel="nofollow">Full release</a>, with links to similar PR on the other evidences: radiocarbon, archaeology, genealogy, bone, historical.)</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an impressive list of bizarre unsupported assertions.</description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His spinal deformation was exaggerated by Henry VII&#039;s PR people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His spinal deformation was exaggerated by Henry VII&#8217;s PR people.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but I guess that I&#039;m going to have to rent &lt;i&gt;Richard&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Richard II&lt;/i&gt; from Netflix before I check out the new one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but I guess that I&#8217;m going to have to rent <i>Richard</i> and <i>Richard II</i> from Netflix before I check out the new one.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Vaultonburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Vaultonburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although there&#039;s no real way mitochondrial DNA could be used to make any definite identification, I hope this spurs some serious re-examining of Richard III life.  http://zombielogicreview.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-body-of-richard-iii-exhumed-then-re.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although there&#8217;s no real way mitochondrial DNA could be used to make any definite identification, I hope this spurs some serious re-examining of Richard III life.  http://zombielogicreview.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-body-of-richard-iii-exhumed-then-re.html</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri L. Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheri L. Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vertebrae are arranged as they were found during the excavation. 
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00380/121203961__380396b.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vertebrae are arranged as they were found during the excavation.<br />
<a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00380/121203961__380396b.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00380/121203961__380396b.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: toyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>toyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so another conspiracy theory was born...

We have a curved-spine skeleton like the one Richard III had, buried in the (now-destroyed) Catholic church where sources say Richard III was buried, a skeleton which dates from the same time Richard III was buried, with wounds typical of a battle like the one Richard III fought, with more wounds typical of the gruesome parade Richard III was subjected back in Leicester after the battle, buried with arms still shackled like Richard III was, with a lot of other characteristics typical of a rich person (high-protein and high-sugar diet, not very common back then) which Richard III certainly was, matching mitochondrial DNA from Richard III descendants.

But no, can&#039;t be Richard III. It&#039;s all a plot from freemasons at Channel 4, covering for templars at BBC and University of Leicester; the Bilderberg group must certainly be involved. Everyone knows Richard III is buried at Area 51!

(I&#039;d really like a good long look at the list of &quot;proofs&quot; you&#039;d want before accepting the body is of Richard III Plantagenet. Should he have had a birth certificate on himself? a driving licence perhaps?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so another conspiracy theory was born&#8230;</p>
<p>We have a curved-spine skeleton like the one Richard III had, buried in the (now-destroyed) Catholic church where sources say Richard III was buried, a skeleton which dates from the same time Richard III was buried, with wounds typical of a battle like the one Richard III fought, with more wounds typical of the gruesome parade Richard III was subjected back in Leicester after the battle, buried with arms still shackled like Richard III was, with a lot of other characteristics typical of a rich person (high-protein and high-sugar diet, not very common back then) which Richard III certainly was, matching mitochondrial DNA from Richard III descendants.</p>
<p>But no, can&#8217;t be Richard III. It&#8217;s all a plot from freemasons at Channel 4, covering for templars at BBC and University of Leicester; the Bilderberg group must certainly be involved. Everyone knows Richard III is buried at Area 51!</p>
<p>(I&#8217;d really like a good long look at the list of &#8220;proofs&#8221; you&#8217;d want before accepting the body is of Richard III Plantagenet. Should he have had a birth certificate on himself? a driving licence perhaps?)</p>
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		<title>By: Sparg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!  I don&#039;t think I ever thought I&#039;d think a thought with both Richard III and Jimmy Hoffa. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  I don&#8217;t think I ever thought I&#8217;d think a thought with both Richard III and Jimmy Hoffa. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Buckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Buckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because..  

1) The location matches the historical evidence of where Richard was buried.
2) The dating of the skeleton matches the correct time.
3) The age of the person matched Richard&#039;s
4) The facial features match the historical drawings
5) The cause of death was consistent with how Richard died
6) The dietary analysis matches someone of very high class
7) The skeletal deformation matches what is known about Richard.

The DNA is corroborative, not definitive.

You have someone of the right size, build, appearance, and age of Richard. Who died the same way at the same time buried in the same place as Richard...

Even without the DNA evidence, Richard is, by far, the most likely candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because..  </p>
<p>1) The location matches the historical evidence of where Richard was buried.<br />
2) The dating of the skeleton matches the correct time.<br />
3) The age of the person matched Richard&#8217;s<br />
4) The facial features match the historical drawings<br />
5) The cause of death was consistent with how Richard died<br />
6) The dietary analysis matches someone of very high class<br />
7) The skeletal deformation matches what is known about Richard.</p>
<p>The DNA is corroborative, not definitive.</p>
<p>You have someone of the right size, build, appearance, and age of Richard. Who died the same way at the same time buried in the same place as Richard&#8230;</p>
<p>Even without the DNA evidence, Richard is, by far, the most likely candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) The article Jay Wherley linked to stated that the skeleton had a &quot;rare&quot; mt-DNA haplogroup, so it wouldn&#039;t have been just H.  While most mt-DNA haplogroups are many MANY thousands of years old, some are relatively recent mutations (occurring during recorded history).

2) The same article says they already have several proven paternal descendants who have volunteered their DNA, so the Y-DNA haplogroup should be determined pretty soon.  Y-DNA haplogroups are still old, but due to mutations are usually very useful for pinning down the ancestral male line.

3) Autosomal DNA (chromosomes 1-22 and the X) will show segment matches to about the 5th or 6th cousin range in most cases.  DNA is tricky: some bona fide 3rd cousins will have no segment matches in common, and occasionally a much more distant relationship will still have one or two segments that have held together over many generations (there are a couple of reasons for this: cold spots or inversion being the most likely).  While the NYTimes article did not specify which test was used with the 16th generation descendant, the article linked by Wherley did: it was the mitochondrial test, which makes sense, because 16 generations is too long ago to match at the autosomal level.  (And of course you can&#039;t match Y-DNA with a niece!)

Basically, haplogroups show deep ancestry whereas autosomal DNA is useful for recent genealogy....but rare haplogroups can be very useful for the mid-range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) The article Jay Wherley linked to stated that the skeleton had a &#8220;rare&#8221; mt-DNA haplogroup, so it wouldn&#8217;t have been just H.  While most mt-DNA haplogroups are many MANY thousands of years old, some are relatively recent mutations (occurring during recorded history).</p>
<p>2) The same article says they already have several proven paternal descendants who have volunteered their DNA, so the Y-DNA haplogroup should be determined pretty soon.  Y-DNA haplogroups are still old, but due to mutations are usually very useful for pinning down the ancestral male line.</p>
<p>3) Autosomal DNA (chromosomes 1-22 and the X) will show segment matches to about the 5th or 6th cousin range in most cases.  DNA is tricky: some bona fide 3rd cousins will have no segment matches in common, and occasionally a much more distant relationship will still have one or two segments that have held together over many generations (there are a couple of reasons for this: cold spots or inversion being the most likely).  While the NYTimes article did not specify which test was used with the 16th generation descendant, the article linked by Wherley did: it was the mitochondrial test, which makes sense, because 16 generations is too long ago to match at the autosomal level.  (And of course you can&#8217;t match Y-DNA with a niece!)</p>
<p>Basically, haplogroups show deep ancestry whereas autosomal DNA is useful for recent genealogy&#8230;.but rare haplogroups can be very useful for the mid-range.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Kirkham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Kirkham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bearing in mind that practically the whole population of Europe is descended from Charlemagne, I think it would be quite silly to say that this skeleton was part of the &#039;Royal Line&quot;. DNA sourcing doesn&#039;t really do what you think it does.  I&#039;d really like a good long look at the papers published.  To discover the skeleton of a human being from so long ago with scoliosis isn&#039;t that unusual.  Go back 3 or 4 generations in the UK and you&#039;ll find that most &quot;non-Royals&quot; were criminals of some kind or other.  The &#039;other&#039; being vagrants, who were unemployed people of the time.  Sent to gaol for vagrancy was very common, as was pretending to be the rightful heir to the throne.  

A skeleton with a curved spine is not special, nor its location, nor the wounds (for the time).

I will await the findings of those without a vested interest, not connected to Channel 4 or the BBC.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bearing in mind that practically the whole population of Europe is descended from Charlemagne, I think it would be quite silly to say that this skeleton was part of the &#8216;Royal Line&#8221;. DNA sourcing doesn&#8217;t really do what you think it does.  I&#8217;d really like a good long look at the papers published.  To discover the skeleton of a human being from so long ago with scoliosis isn&#8217;t that unusual.  Go back 3 or 4 generations in the UK and you&#8217;ll find that most &#8220;non-Royals&#8221; were criminals of some kind or other.  The &#8216;other&#8217; being vagrants, who were unemployed people of the time.  Sent to gaol for vagrancy was very common, as was pretending to be the rightful heir to the throne.  </p>
<p>A skeleton with a curved spine is not special, nor its location, nor the wounds (for the time).</p>
<p>I will await the findings of those without a vested interest, not connected to Channel 4 or the BBC.  </p>
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		<title>By: cegev</title>
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		<dc:creator>cegev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DNA matched was mitochondrial, not nuclear.</description>
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		<title>By: Just_Ok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just_Ok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all fake. They didn&#039;t haven&#039;t parking lots when Richard III died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all fake. They didn&#8217;t haven&#8217;t parking lots when Richard III died.</p>
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		<title>By: CrackWilding</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrackWilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media: How can you tell he&#039;s a king?

Researcher: He hasn&#039;t got shit all over him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media: How can you tell he&#8217;s a king?</p>
<p>Researcher: He hasn&#8217;t got shit all over him.</p>
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		<title>By: timquinn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if some of you skeptics realize you are promoting a sort of anti-intellectual agenda for the sake of, apparently, cheapness. It&#039;s not worth any amount of money to study the bones of a controversial historic figure? I just find that odd and suspect you are not really examining the consequences of your suggested course of development for culture. None of us are all that concerned abut your toughness that you need to be so, uh, melodramatic about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if some of you skeptics realize you are promoting a sort of anti-intellectual agenda for the sake of, apparently, cheapness. It&#8217;s not worth any amount of money to study the bones of a controversial historic figure? I just find that odd and suspect you are not really examining the consequences of your suggested course of development for culture. None of us are all that concerned abut your toughness that you need to be so, uh, melodramatic about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, dear, Richard the Third.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, dear, Richard the Third.</p>
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		<title>By: jandrese</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The withered arm thing is a bit strange when you consider how he died:  Charging his horse directly at Henry Tudor and killing several men including a jousting champion before being surrounded and overwhelmed.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The withered arm thing is a bit strange when you consider how he died:  Charging his horse directly at Henry Tudor and killing several men including a jousting champion before being surrounded and overwhelmed.  </p>
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		<title>By: LightningRose</title>
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		<dc:creator>LightningRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but if we back up a couple of generations, then the same mitochondrial DNA will be found in a bazillion people who are not descendants of Richard III. 

I think Y chromosome DNA is more commonly used when researching males. IIRC, this is what proved the link between the Hemmings family and Thomas Jefferson (or a close male relative)

Edit: oops. I should have read the linked article before commenting. It was mitochondrial DNA that was used to link the skeleton to Richard III. Mea culpa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but if we back up a couple of generations, then the same mitochondrial DNA will be found in a bazillion people who are not descendants of Richard III. </p>
<p>I think Y chromosome DNA is more commonly used when researching males. IIRC, this is what proved the link between the Hemmings family and Thomas Jefferson (or a close male relative)</p>
<p>Edit: oops. I should have read the linked article before commenting. It was mitochondrial DNA that was used to link the skeleton to Richard III. Mea culpa.</p>
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		<title>By: Lithi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lithi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Beeb&#039;s confirmed it and Wikipedia&#039;s already been updated. 

I would love to have them tackle &quot;The Two Princes in the Tower.&quot; That is, the two boys of Edward IV who were supposedly murdered by Uncle Richard. Unfortunately, royal permission is needed and there seems to be some waffling on the royal side. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Beeb&#8217;s confirmed it and Wikipedia&#8217;s already been updated. </p>
<p>I would love to have them tackle &#8220;The Two Princes in the Tower.&#8221; That is, the two boys of Edward IV who were supposedly murdered by Uncle Richard. Unfortunately, royal permission is needed and there seems to be some waffling on the royal side. </p>
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		<title>By: cigarguy007</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m definitely not an expert, but that DNA strain may have just proven that the skeleton was his 17th great grandparent. Each person has as many as 524,288 17th great grandparents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely not an expert, but that DNA strain may have just proven that the skeleton was his 17th great grandparent. Each person has as many as 524,288 17th great grandparents.</p>
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		<title>By: Peaked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article I read a few hours earlier (not this one and I unfortunately do not have the link at hand) mentioned that there was no sign of the withered arm that Shakespeare depicted him as having. It sounded like there weren&#039;t any contemporary accounts that mentioned it, but that it was still widely believed to be true, due to the popularity of Shakespeare&#039;s account, making it exactly the kind of thing you&#039;re talking about. Very interesting indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article I read a few hours earlier (not this one and I unfortunately do not have the link at hand) mentioned that there was no sign of the withered arm that Shakespeare depicted him as having. It sounded like there weren&#8217;t any contemporary accounts that mentioned it, but that it was still widely believed to be true, due to the popularity of Shakespeare&#8217;s account, making it exactly the kind of thing you&#8217;re talking about. Very interesting indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: ChickieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. It certainly seems like they conclusively ruled that it definitely could be him, so now I imagine they might blow more dough and do more specific tests to identify the skeleton more conclusively. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. It certainly seems like they conclusively ruled that it definitely could be him, so now I imagine they might blow more dough and do more specific tests to identify the skeleton more conclusively. </p>
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