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	<title>Comments on: In Arkansas, you may soon carry concealed guns inside&#160;churches</title>
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		<title>By: SomeGuyNamedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuyNamedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weapons were surrendered at the entrance.  Churches were considered sanctuaries with the Right of Asylum.

Also, many towns and cities had specific laws governing weapons:

27 Edward III. A.D. 1353. Letter-Book G. fol. x. (Norman French.)

This proclamation was made on Thursday, the Feast of St. Peter&#039;s Chains [1 August], in the 27th year of the reign of King Edward the Third etc.—

&quot;It is ordered that every hosteler and herbergeour, within the franchise of the City, shall cause his guests to be warned that they must leave their arms and armour in their hostels where they are lodging, in the keeping there of their hosts; and if such hosts do not give such warning, and any one shall be found bearing arms or in armour, for default of such warning, the host of such person shall be punished by imprisonment and other penalty, at the discretion of the Mayor and Aldermen.

&quot;Also,—that no alien shall go in armour, or shall carry sword, knife with point, or other arms, in the City, or in the suburb thereof; on pain of imprisonment, and of losing such arms and armour.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weapons were surrendered at the entrance.  Churches were considered sanctuaries with the Right of Asylum.</p>
<p>Also, many towns and cities had specific laws governing weapons:</p>
<p>27 Edward III. A.D. 1353. Letter-Book G. fol. x. (Norman French.)</p>
<p>This proclamation was made on Thursday, the Feast of St. Peter&#8217;s Chains [1 August], in the 27th year of the reign of King Edward the Third etc.—</p>
<p>&#8220;It is ordered that every hosteler and herbergeour, within the franchise of the City, shall cause his guests to be warned that they must leave their arms and armour in their hostels where they are lodging, in the keeping there of their hosts; and if such hosts do not give such warning, and any one shall be found bearing arms or in armour, for default of such warning, the host of such person shall be punished by imprisonment and other penalty, at the discretion of the Mayor and Aldermen.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also,—that no alien shall go in armour, or shall carry sword, knife with point, or other arms, in the City, or in the suburb thereof; on pain of imprisonment, and of losing such arms and armour.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> ...if that American lives in a city.  You should try taking a look at crime rate broken geographically.

For the record, pgt seems pretty paranoid even by US standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8230;if that American lives in a city.  You should try taking a look at crime rate broken geographically.</p>
<p>For the record, pgt seems pretty paranoid even by US standards.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...brought on &lt;em&gt;yourself&lt;/em&gt; by your essentially unnecessary &lt;em&gt;personal choice&lt;/em&gt; to carry a weapon.

&quot;This 80 lb boulder I carry around everywhere really leads to a great deal of inconvenience and difficulty.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;brought on <em>yourself</em> by your essentially unnecessary <em>personal choice</em> to carry a weapon.</p>
<p>&#8220;This 80 lb boulder I carry around everywhere really leads to a great deal of inconvenience and difficulty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/05/in-arkansas-you-may-soon-carr.html#comment-1647787</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But when is an attack likely to happen? Not during the service, no, but walking to/from church, or to/from their car, both at church and at home.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Uh, hi.  I live in a city.  Despite the relatively high crime rate in cities, I&#039;ve never been in a situation where I&#039;ve been the least bit worried about being &quot;unprotected&quot; by a gun.  I&#039;ve never seen anyone else in such a situation either.  I think no matter what you have to acknowledge that it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;unlikely&lt;/em&gt; to happen pretty much anywhere, and even then in most cases it&#039;s better to just give over your wallet and flee than to try to quick draw your way out of trouble.

If you want to make the gun control issue about threats to life and limb then this is simple: all the evidence points to guns putting their owners in &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; danger, not less.  &quot;Oh, but I am especially well-trained and competent.&quot;  Yes, and 90% of US drivers are above average.  The statistics say what they say.  Even assuming you are that competent that just means there&#039;s that many more idiots out there dragging your numbers down in which case I&#039;d prefer &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; didn&#039;t have guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But when is an attack likely to happen? Not during the service, no, but walking to/from church, or to/from their car, both at church and at home.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh, hi.  I live in a city.  Despite the relatively high crime rate in cities, I&#8217;ve never been in a situation where I&#8217;ve been the least bit worried about being &#8220;unprotected&#8221; by a gun.  I&#8217;ve never seen anyone else in such a situation either.  I think no matter what you have to acknowledge that it&#8217;s <em>unlikely</em> to happen pretty much anywhere, and even then in most cases it&#8217;s better to just give over your wallet and flee than to try to quick draw your way out of trouble.</p>
<p>If you want to make the gun control issue about threats to life and limb then this is simple: all the evidence points to guns putting their owners in <em>more</em> danger, not less.  &#8220;Oh, but I am especially well-trained and competent.&#8221;  Yes, and 90% of US drivers are above average.  The statistics say what they say.  Even assuming you are that competent that just means there&#8217;s that many more idiots out there dragging your numbers down in which case I&#8217;d prefer <em>they</em> didn&#8217;t have guns.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuyNamedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuyNamedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Pretty well, I haven&#039;t shot anyone lately</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Pretty well, I haven&#8217;t shot anyone lately</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuyNamedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuyNamedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Not sure that counts as &quot;allowed&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Not sure that counts as &#8220;allowed&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;they tend to be a crowd that enjoys freedom and personal resposibility and local control more than prior restraint and dictatorial proclamations from afar. &lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s not really the impression I get.  That&#039;s what they &lt;em&gt;say&lt;/em&gt; but it&#039;s really not the impression I get.

Who&#039;s pushing for constitutional amendments banning gay marriage?  &quot;Prior restraint and dictatorial proclamations from afar&quot; indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>they tend to be a crowd that enjoys freedom and personal resposibility and local control more than prior restraint and dictatorial proclamations from afar. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s not really the impression I get.  That&#8217;s what they <em>say</em> but it&#8217;s really not the impression I get.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s pushing for constitutional amendments banning gay marriage?  &#8220;Prior restraint and dictatorial proclamations from afar&#8221; indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, private organizations get to refuse to allow you to bring guns on premises.  Not sure why that would be surprising. &quot;No shirt, no shoes, no service&quot; is ubiquitous0 and it&#039;s the exact same principle.  Has nothing to do with &quot;being alone&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, private organizations get to refuse to allow you to bring guns on premises.  Not sure why that would be surprising. &#8220;No shirt, no shoes, no service&#8221; is ubiquitous0 and it&#8217;s the exact same principle.  Has nothing to do with &#8220;being alone&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Hayday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Hayday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In present times you&#039;re not allowed to shoot people...how&#039;s that working</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In present times you&#8217;re not allowed to shoot people&#8230;how&#8217;s that working</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lenethen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Lenethen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but those criminals arn&#039;t going to follow the law anyway. They will carry guns in regradless. Now that other can to, we can have a bit shoot out and no one will get hurt! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but those criminals arn&#8217;t going to follow the law anyway. They will carry guns in regradless. Now that other can to, we can have a bit shoot out and no one will get hurt! </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lenethen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Lenethen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better the choir boys to be trained and carry...</description>
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		<title>By: kmoser</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.</description>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
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		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justifications aside, think of what the mindset of a Canadian must be when watching this. I live in a country where I don&#039;t have to fear leaving my house and walking somewhere after dark. I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re American or what nationality you are, but it&#039;s mind-boggling to live in one of the best nations in the world (Canada is consistently ranked in or around the top 10, depending on who&#039;s counting, of the best nations to live in) and be next to a gun-paranoid country full of people who rely on their constitutional right to own life-ending firearms.

See also: The &lt;a href=&quot;http://boingboing.net/2012/08/08/american-off-duty-cop-complain.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;#nosehillparkgentlemen&lt;/a&gt; incident.

Yes, I understand not &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; Americans are extremist gun nuts. And, yes, not all gun owners are extremist nutcakes. And, yes, not all Canadians are alike, and there are gun nutjobs here. They&#039;re just not as numerous as America&#039;s gun nutjobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justifications aside, think of what the mindset of a Canadian must be when watching this. I live in a country where I don&#8217;t have to fear leaving my house and walking somewhere after dark. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re American or what nationality you are, but it&#8217;s mind-boggling to live in one of the best nations in the world (Canada is consistently ranked in or around the top 10, depending on who&#8217;s counting, of the best nations to live in) and be next to a gun-paranoid country full of people who rely on their constitutional right to own life-ending firearms.</p>
<p>See also: The <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/08/08/american-off-duty-cop-complain.html" rel="nofollow">#nosehillparkgentlemen</a> incident.</p>
<p>Yes, I understand not <i>all</i> Americans are extremist gun nuts. And, yes, not all gun owners are extremist nutcakes. And, yes, not all Canadians are alike, and there are gun nutjobs here. They&#8217;re just not as numerous as America&#8217;s gun nutjobs.</p>
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		<title>By: eldritch</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldritch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that were true. Because then someone could write their own Holy Book claiming it to be divinely inspired and the work of Yahweh, use that to justify carrying their weapon into a church, and when the court rules against their argument, help set the precedent for legally disavowing the supposed divine nature of books of worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that were true. Because then someone could write their own Holy Book claiming it to be divinely inspired and the work of Yahweh, use that to justify carrying their weapon into a church, and when the court rules against their argument, help set the precedent for legally disavowing the supposed divine nature of books of worship.</p>
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		<title>By: timquinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>timquinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am beginning to understand. They need the guns to protect themselves from each other. Who are the shooters on that long list of church shootings? Not innercity youth, I bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning to understand. They need the guns to protect themselves from each other. Who are the shooters on that long list of church shootings? Not innercity youth, I bet.</p>
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		<title>By: timothy snapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>timothy snapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on a per-capita basis, canada&#039;s violent crime rates are much lower than those of the united states. (this is true for all categories of violent crime, not just gun homicides.) an american would be justified in expecting a higher risk of violence than a canadian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on a per-capita basis, canada&#8217;s violent crime rates are much lower than those of the united states. (this is true for all categories of violent crime, not just gun homicides.) an american would be justified in expecting a higher risk of violence than a canadian.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Fugue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Fugue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you feel you need to take a gun to church ... you may be going to the wrong church. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you feel you need to take a gun to church &#8230; you may be going to the wrong church. </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Guess I&#039;m gonna get flamed again...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only trolls ever say that.  You can spend the rest of the day in the corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Guess I&#8217;m gonna get flamed again&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Only trolls ever say that.  You can spend the rest of the day in the corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cleaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Cleaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...because God is no longer allowed  in our churches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;because God is no longer allowed  in our churches?</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you Matt Dillon?  What is your day like, that driving between various errands means you always have to have a gun ready to draw?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you Matt Dillon?  What is your day like, that driving between various errands means you always have to have a gun ready to draw?</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to have missed George Tiller.</description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could fix it instead of apologizing for it.</description>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s an awfully strong argument in support of guns in church. Or guns in general.  Yeah, arm everyone.  Then we have to worry about the numbskulls in the neighboring pews trying to draw a bead on the bad guy, as well as the bad guy himself.

Oh, you say this will serve a preventive function, like the death penalty scaring bad guys away from perpetrating murders in the first place?

I feel safer already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s an awfully strong argument in support of guns in church. Or guns in general.  Yeah, arm everyone.  Then we have to worry about the numbskulls in the neighboring pews trying to draw a bead on the bad guy, as well as the bad guy himself.</p>
<p>Oh, you say this will serve a preventive function, like the death penalty scaring bad guys away from perpetrating murders in the first place?</p>
<p>I feel safer already.</p>
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		<title>By: cellocgw</title>
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		<dc:creator>cellocgw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on the sword. http://www.byyourcommand.net/cylonforum/viewtopic.php?f=17&amp;t=672</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on the sword. <a href="http://www.byyourcommand.net/cylonforum/viewtopic.php?f=17&#038;t=672" rel="nofollow">http://www.byyourcommand.net/cylonforum/viewtopic.php?f=17&#038;t=672</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket#Assassination</description>
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		<title>By: cellocgw</title>
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		<dc:creator>cellocgw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, guns don&#039;t kill people.  Church pastors who piss off people with guns kill people.   Anyway, sort of puts an end to &quot;God watches over this holy place&quot; crap, donchathink?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, guns don&#8217;t kill people.  Church pastors who piss off people with guns kill people.   Anyway, sort of puts an end to &#8220;God watches over this holy place&#8221; crap, donchathink?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, not by me.  But in celebration of my 2,000th comment (yay motormouth me!) I will say this.  My assumption is that nearly everyone with a fraction of a soul (NRA member or not) disapproves of school shootings.  Another assumption of mine is that &quot;state-enforced total citizen disarmament&quot; isn&#039;t a particularly popular goal, either, even among most gun-control advocates.  It pains me no end that nobody seems to think even an assault weapons ban has any chance of making it through Congress today since ordinary civilians with no training and no connection to anything resembling a well-regulated militia apparently possess their great-great-great-grandfather&#039;s Constitutional right to shoot a few hundred rounds per minute at anything they might consider a threat to their own fragile awesomeness.

But why shouldn&#039;t you fear your fellow parishioners any less than Random Q. Stranger with the odd bulge &#039;neath his trenchcoat?  For a while, Adam Lanza was a student at Sandy Hook.  Harris and Klebold fired upon their own classmates at Columbine.  Ditto with Seung-Hui Cho at Virginia Tech.  Nidal Hasan fired upon his own sworn fellow soldiers at Fort Hood.  They all had different reasons for doing what they did (and at least one of them did it on a military base where the legendary &quot;good guy with a gun&quot; was able to take him down within ten minutes or so, after only 42 people had been shot), but these guys at least took out their rage on the community they knew best.  Just because someone is a card-carrying and church-attending Unitarian Universalist is no guarantee that a Very Bad Day coupled with a gun or two might never lead to disaster.

As for the damage they could do with a car?  Sure, George Weller took out 73 people as he plowed through the Farmer&#039;s Market in his car (ostensibly without even trying), but y&#039;know, at least he had to get a license for that.  My heretofore unstated goal is to make mass murder more (not less) inconvenient.  But if churches find it useful to allow guns within their sanctuary for the protection of the huddled multitudes within, they are certainly invited to be my guest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, not by me.  But in celebration of my 2,000th comment (yay motormouth me!) I will say this.  My assumption is that nearly everyone with a fraction of a soul (NRA member or not) disapproves of school shootings.  Another assumption of mine is that &#8220;state-enforced total citizen disarmament&#8221; isn&#8217;t a particularly popular goal, either, even among most gun-control advocates.  It pains me no end that nobody seems to think even an assault weapons ban has any chance of making it through Congress today since ordinary civilians with no training and no connection to anything resembling a well-regulated militia apparently possess their great-great-great-grandfather&#8217;s Constitutional right to shoot a few hundred rounds per minute at anything they might consider a threat to their own fragile awesomeness.</p>
<p>But why shouldn&#8217;t you fear your fellow parishioners any less than Random Q. Stranger with the odd bulge &#8216;neath his trenchcoat?  For a while, Adam Lanza was a student at Sandy Hook.  Harris and Klebold fired upon their own classmates at Columbine.  Ditto with Seung-Hui Cho at Virginia Tech.  Nidal Hasan fired upon his own sworn fellow soldiers at Fort Hood.  They all had different reasons for doing what they did (and at least one of them did it on a military base where the legendary &#8220;good guy with a gun&#8221; was able to take him down within ten minutes or so, after only 42 people had been shot), but these guys at least took out their rage on the community they knew best.  Just because someone is a card-carrying and church-attending Unitarian Universalist is no guarantee that a Very Bad Day coupled with a gun or two might never lead to disaster.</p>
<p>As for the damage they could do with a car?  Sure, George Weller took out 73 people as he plowed through the Farmer&#8217;s Market in his car (ostensibly without even trying), but y&#8217;know, at least he had to get a license for that.  My heretofore unstated goal is to make mass murder more (not less) inconvenient.  But if churches find it useful to allow guns within their sanctuary for the protection of the huddled multitudes within, they are certainly invited to be my guest.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cleaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Cleaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew 10:34 &quot;Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.&quot;

Silly Jesus, you don&#039;t bring a sword to a gun fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew 10:34 &#8220;Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.&#8221;</p>
<p>Silly Jesus, you don&#8217;t bring a sword to a gun fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cleaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Cleaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW.  Such insight into the paranoid mind of an American gun nut.   In Canada, we&#039;re not afraid of being attacked on the way to or from or in church.  We&#039;re thinking more, like &quot;what will the sermon be and will there be good soup after.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW.  Such insight into the paranoid mind of an American gun nut.   In Canada, we&#8217;re not afraid of being attacked on the way to or from or in church.  We&#8217;re thinking more, like &#8220;what will the sermon be and will there be good soup after.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>edit:  take all my comments or leave it. deleted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>edit:  take all my comments or leave it. deleted</p>
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