Comments on: FBI employees love the BitTorrent http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 12:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Elaine Ossipov http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1655584 Elaine Ossipov Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1655584 That's not exactly true. Especially when it goes towards an ongoing investigaton; data tracking, and numerous other things. These Officials DO NOT work for us. We did not elect them. We did not vote for them. They have a specific mandate which have already been voted on an approved by everyone , which they need to follow.  It is a falasy to tell yourself, 'well, he's a cop so I pay his salery.' yah, your taxes go to schools, roads and bridges, so No, they do not work for us. When we vote them in office, like we do a Sherrif then they still don't work for 'us' they work for the mandate which all people have voted for. That’s not exactly true. Especially when it goes towards an ongoing investigaton; data tracking, and numerous other things. These Officials DO NOT work for us. We did not elect them. We did not vote for them. They have a specific mandate which have already been voted on an approved by everyone , which they need to follow. 

It is a falasy to tell yourself, ‘well, he’s a cop so I pay his salery.’ yah, your taxes go to schools, roads and bridges, so No, they do not work for us. When we vote them in office, like we do a Sherrif then they still don’t work for ‘us’ they work for the mandate which all people have voted for.

]]> By: Elaine Ossipov http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1655581 Elaine Ossipov Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1655581 I just have to ask this.  Do you guys Really think anyone who workes for the FBI or Homeland has the TIME to sit and download for fun?? Or, That they would really want to?? after 12-14 hour+ days running down crap on a computer, do you really think that's what they want to do at home??  I mean, Ok, I'm done, You guys keep pontificating about something like why someone wants to go home and sit on a computer after sitting at one all day + people do have lives and kids and sports and friends and community and damn you need to get out more. I just have to ask this.  Do you guys Really think anyone who workes for the FBI or Homeland has the TIME to sit and download for fun?? Or, That they would really want to?? after 12-14 hour+ days running down crap on a computer, do you really think that’s what they want to do at home?? 

I mean, Ok, I’m done, You guys keep pontificating about something like why someone wants to go home and sit on a computer after sitting at one all day + people do have lives and kids and sports and friends and community and damn you need to get out more.

]]> By: Elaine Ossipov http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1655570 Elaine Ossipov Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1655570 If I were to take a guess why, I think they would probably have been looking for a few specific countries ip's and behaviors. What a perfect place to sit, and try and break into accounts. someplace where there is so much traffic no one would notice someone running a small cracker, or using other methods to break in.   Of course, that's just my opinion.  Oh, that's right, last time the chineese used a few Universities course anyone can normally get into those with a few unix/alpha commands. I had 4 hackers from china and 2 from cecz today alone on one machine. They don't even bother to try and break into the machines anymore, they just re-route your dns and they are damn good at it, although I do have to believe the rus folks are about the best in the world. Hiya there bearpaw01 I agree with everything you just said. except that that homeland wouldn't bother using fbi id's, and btw, what makes you believe they are really fbi? I mean, well, these days I don't trust much unles I can see the direct line with no major hops. And if there's a hub in between, forget it unless you have / can get access to ensure you're still tracing the same signal. or the one with a person on the other end of it instead of a bot. And what Bearpaw01 said. You've no idea how hard some of these folks work and sometimes with machines less than kids gaming machines. You want your bank account drained or your social security number to disappear fine, but I'm a little bit fond of mine personally. If I were to take a guess why, I think they would probably have been looking for a few specific countries ip’s and behaviors. What a perfect place to sit, and try and break into accounts. someplace where there is so much traffic no one would notice someone running a small cracker, or using other methods to break in.  

Of course, that’s just my opinion. 

Oh, that’s right, last time the chineese used a few Universities course anyone can normally get into those with a few unix/alpha commands.

I had 4 hackers from china and 2 from cecz today alone on one machine. They don’t even bother to try and break into the machines anymore, they just re-route your dns and they are damn good at it, although I do have to believe the rus folks are about the best in the world.

Hiya there bearpaw01 I agree with everything you just said. except that that homeland wouldn’t bother using fbi id’s, and btw, what makes you believe they are really fbi? I mean, well, these days I don’t trust much unles I can see the direct line with no major hops. And if there’s a hub in between, forget it unless you have / can get access to ensure you’re still tracing the same signal. or the one with a person on the other end of it instead of a bot.

And what Bearpaw01 said.
You’ve no idea how hard some of these folks work and sometimes with machines less than kids gaming machines. You want your bank account drained or your social security number to disappear fine, but I’m a little bit fond of mine personally.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1652462 That_Anonymous_Coward Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1652462 Well then by all means lets use the FOIA to find out how they modified the software to not actually be participating in the "illegal" activity. I find your attempt to spin FBI employee's violating copyright into they are investigating other people because people who infringe on copyright are obviously tied to other criminal enterprises. Other than in propaganda put on TV with McGruff the crime dog, there are not organized groups on the BT networks selling content to finance drugs, sex trafficking, child labor, etc etc.  These illusions are merely setup to make people think that if someone violates copyright they are also producing fake drugs to poison people with. They should be fired for being stupid.  They are, in your version, allegedly monitoring the networks using obvious IP addresses owned by the FBI.  That is as good as running an investigation from a van marked Flowers By Irene.   It is much more likely these top cops are infringing upon copyright for their own benefit while pretending to enforce the law. Well then by all means lets use the FOIA to find out how they modified the software to not actually be participating in the “illegal” activity.
I find your attempt to spin FBI employee’s violating copyright into they are investigating other people because people who infringe on copyright are obviously tied to other criminal enterprises.
Other than in propaganda put on TV with McGruff the crime dog, there are not organized groups on the BT networks selling content to finance drugs, sex trafficking, child labor, etc etc.  These illusions are merely setup to make people think that if someone violates copyright they are also producing fake drugs to poison people with.
They should be fired for being stupid.  They are, in your version, allegedly monitoring the networks using obvious IP addresses owned by the FBI.  That is as good as running an investigation from a van marked Flowers By Irene.   It is much more likely these top cops are infringing upon copyright for their own benefit while pretending to enforce the law.

]]> By: Johnny Nelson http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651538 Johnny Nelson Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651538  Any Government employee is in a sense an employee of the people, any actions they take part in DURING BUSINESS HOURS and USING GOVERNMENT PROPERTY inherently can be told to the public.  Any Government employee is in a sense an employee of the people, any actions they take part in DURING BUSINESS HOURS and USING GOVERNMENT PROPERTY inherently can be told to the public.

]]> By: jakewastaken http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651537 jakewastaken Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651537 You can still buy a tivo like dvr without renting from the cable or satellite company, you know that, right? I'm all for DIY stuff, but don't bother if your only reason is the product doesn't exist anymore, because it does. You can still buy a tivo like dvr without renting from the cable or satellite company, you know that, right? I’m all for DIY stuff, but don’t bother if your only reason is the product doesn’t exist anymore, because it does.

]]> By: Bradley Robinson http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651389 Bradley Robinson Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651389 Fired?  For what? Chances are that people who take from one cookie jar have had their grubby little paws in others as well.  You can cross reference and correlate multiple data sets to develop a profile and identify behavioral patterns.   It's called investigating.  Perhaps you've heard of the technique on one of your favorite television dramas. Fired?  For what?

Chances are that people who take from one cookie jar have had their grubby little paws in others as well.  You can cross reference and correlate multiple data sets to develop a profile and identify behavioral patterns.  

It’s called investigating.  Perhaps you’ve heard of the technique on one of your favorite television dramas.

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651347 bcsizemo Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651347 Oh yeah, so it is.  Well the i vs. p part wasn't where I was having problems with it.  I use DGIndex to get something where I can edit the stream and demux the audio, but for some reason it keeps crapping out when dealing with the audio side even though it is AC3 just like ABC... Once I saw that happening I kind of just put CBS on the back burner until I get ABC squared away first. Going from an MPEG2 HD 5.1 stream to a commercial free H.264 stereo stream is being a way more pain in the rear than I thought it'd be. Oh yeah, so it is.  Well the i vs. p part wasn’t where I was having problems with it.  I use DGIndex to get something where I can edit the stream and demux the audio, but for some reason it keeps crapping out when dealing with the audio side even though it is AC3 just like ABC…

Once I saw that happening I kind of just put CBS on the back burner until I get ABC squared away first.

Going from an MPEG2 HD 5.1 stream to a commercial free H.264 stereo stream is being a way more pain in the rear than I thought it’d be.

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651343 Kimmo Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651343 In a nutshell; 'because we can, and because fuck you, that's why.' In a nutshell; ‘because we can, and because fuck you, that’s why.’

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651341 Kimmo Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651341 A frustration with folks skirting around the underlying issue, and the futility of criminalising normal civilised behaviour. A frustration with folks skirting around the underlying issue, and the futility of criminalising normal civilised behaviour.

]]> By: noah django http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651312 noah django Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651312 wow, what a bunch of stupid bitches.  you heard me, FBI. wow, what a bunch of stupid bitches.  you heard me, FBI.

]]> By: Dlo Burns http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651206 Dlo Burns Sun, 10 Feb 2013 04:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651206 The lizard-people are torrenting the baby jesus out of the hearts of our school children. The lizard-people are torrenting the baby jesus out of the hearts of our school children.

]]> By: Dlo Burns http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651204 Dlo Burns Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651204 Is it a train wreck like Passions? Is it a train wreck like Passions?

]]> By: ocker3 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651200 ocker3 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651200  Exactly, I was wondering if some Australians had ended up working for the FBI or something  Exactly, I was wondering if some Australians had ended up working for the FBI or something

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651183 That_Anonymous_Coward Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651183 And they should be fired at that point.  The FBI should not be wasting resources pursuing matters heard in a civil case.  There are a bunch of criminals who destroyed the banking industry, time looking at them might be better used. Oh and its ICE's job to monitor them not the FBI. And they should be fired at that point.  The FBI should not be wasting resources pursuing matters heard in a civil case.  There are a bunch of criminals who destroyed the banking industry, time looking at them might be better used.
Oh and its ICE’s job to monitor them not the FBI.

]]> By: redesigned http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651170 redesigned Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651170 The anology is pretty darn accurate. People didn't pay the large alchol companies for their bootlegged liquor.  They paid for access for liquor copies.  Similar to how people pay their ISPs and File Locker and News Group services.  Very few people have FREE internet and pay nothing for access to their "vice". The anology is pretty darn accurate.

People didn’t pay the large alchol companies for their bootlegged liquor.  They paid for access for liquor copies.  Similar to how people pay their ISPs and File Locker and News Group services.  Very few people have FREE internet and pay nothing for access to their “vice”.

]]> By: don http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651162 don Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651162 *1080i - big difference *1080i – big difference

]]> By: Gerald Mander http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651129 Gerald Mander Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651129  and that has what to do with a Prohibition analogy?  and that has what to do with a Prohibition analogy?

]]> By: peregrinus http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651124 peregrinus Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651124  orly?!  orly?!

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651076 Kimmo Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651076 See 'copying is not theft'. The simple fact is, we're still missing a sensible way to address the issue of paying for online content, but that does nothing to change the reality that yesterday's business models are utterly irrelevant to the modern landscape. How about some serious discussion of possible methods of embracing this reality, like say, making file-sharing a government service, and paying content owners out of consolidated revenue? See ‘copying is not theft’.

The simple fact is, we’re still missing a sensible way to address the issue of paying for online content, but that does nothing to change the reality that yesterday’s business models are utterly irrelevant to the modern landscape.

How about some serious discussion of possible methods of embracing this reality, like say, making file-sharing a government service, and paying content owners out of consolidated revenue?

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651075 Kimmo Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651075 Speaking of vice, hypocrisy is one thing, but <i>Home & Away</i> is an utterly awful Aussie soap, and it boggles my mind that any foreigner could be depraved enough to watch it. Speaking of vice, hypocrisy is one thing, but Home & Away is an utterly awful Aussie soap, and it boggles my mind that any foreigner could be depraved enough to watch it.

]]> By: andreasma http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651071 andreasma Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651071 In our land of the RULE OF LAW does this mean that: - They will be hounded by Carmen Ortiz to death? - They will have their lives destroyed by the DoJ? - They will be forced to plea deals by a mountain of charges adding to decades? - They will face $750,000 fines for 10 movies, destroying their lives? - They will have all their personal computers, data and home ransacked? - Their assets, cars, homes and businesses will be frozen or seized? - They will be wiretapped and GPS-tracked for felony copyright infringment? Equal under the law, they said. We're sharpening the guillotines, we said. In our land of the RULE OF LAW does this mean that:

- They will be hounded by Carmen Ortiz to death?
- They will have their lives destroyed by the DoJ?
- They will be forced to plea deals by a mountain of charges adding to decades?
- They will face $750,000 fines for 10 movies, destroying their lives?
- They will have all their personal computers, data and home ransacked?
- Their assets, cars, homes and businesses will be frozen or seized?
- They will be wiretapped and GPS-tracked for felony copyright infringment?

Equal under the law, they said.

We’re sharpening the guillotines, we said.

]]> By: Jeffrey P Murphy http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651051 Jeffrey P Murphy Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651051 The case would never be heard. They could claim sovereign immunity and be done with it - that's even if the MPAA or whatever media group even bothered to sue them. The case would never be heard. They could claim sovereign immunity and be done with it – that’s even if the MPAA or whatever media group even bothered to sue them.

]]> By: BrianC http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651043 BrianC Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651043  That's it! They're downloading those movies so they can put in the FBI warnings.  That’s it! They’re downloading those movies so they can put in the FBI warnings.

]]> By: Gerald Mander http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651022 Gerald Mander Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651022  While I think the current status of copyright is a pitiful and arcane mess, your analogy just doesn't work. People paid for their bootlegged liquor.  While I think the current status of copyright is a pitiful and arcane mess, your analogy just doesn’t work. People paid for their bootlegged liquor.

]]> By: plyx http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651005 plyx Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651005 One of the easiest ways to gather ip addresses of illegal torrent downloaders is by being one yourself. I wouldn't be suprised if just about every popular torrent swarm had one FBI leech there just to gather ip address data on everyone else. I seriously doubt that agents are sitting around the office using company bandwidth to download illegal media for personal use. Strange that this wasn't already suggested by the article. One of the easiest ways to gather ip addresses of illegal torrent downloaders is by being one yourself. I wouldn’t be suprised if just about every popular torrent swarm had one FBI leech there just to gather ip address data on everyone else. I seriously doubt that agents are sitting around the office using company bandwidth to download illegal media for personal use. Strange that this wasn’t already suggested by the article.

]]> By: Gilbert Wham http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651003 Gilbert Wham Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651003  Psssht. Silly. They watch those shows for FBI agent fashion tips.  Psssht. Silly. They watch those shows for FBI agent fashion tips.

]]> By: Shawn Goldwater http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1651001 Shawn Goldwater Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1651001 Isn't it possible they were downloading torrents as part of their investigations of same? I'm not kidding. Isn’t it possible they were downloading torrents as part of their investigations of same? I’m not kidding.

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1650995 AnthonyC Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1650995 As opposed to the pipa opera? *Hopes the mispelling was intentional* As opposed to the pipa opera?

*Hopes the mispelling was intentional*

]]> By: Sirkowski http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/fbi-employees-love-the-bittorr.html#comment-1650962 Sirkowski Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=211988#comment-1650962 No, man. It's a conspiracy. The reptilians are stealing all the torrents! said Alex Jones. No, man. It’s a conspiracy. The reptilians are stealing all the torrents! said Alex Jones.

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