Comments on: Amanda Palmer: "Hallelujah" http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 12:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Gerald Mander http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1656025 Gerald Mander Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1656025  There are clubs with a "No 'Hallelujah'" rule for singers. I think it's a great song, but that doesn't change the fact that it has metastasized into a vehicle for allowing singers to demonstrate their Sensitivity by doing the vocalist equivalent of William Shatner's acting.  There are clubs with a “No ‘Hallelujah’” rule for singers. I think it’s a great song, but that doesn’t change the fact that it has metastasized into a vehicle for allowing singers to demonstrate their Sensitivity by doing the vocalist equivalent of William Shatner’s acting.

]]> By: technogeekagain http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1654139 technogeekagain Wed, 13 Feb 2013 04:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1654139  Didn't notice it until you pointed it out... but that certainly explains the cut. Assuming she actually cares about that slippage (she may not), I would suggest a suitable adhesive to ensure that outfit stays where it belongs. Or an outfit with better (or better-adjusted) rigging. Or both.  Didn’t notice it until you pointed it out… but that certainly explains the cut.

Assuming she actually cares about that slippage (she may not), I would suggest a suitable adhesive to ensure that outfit stays where it belongs. Or an outfit with better (or better-adjusted) rigging. Or both.

]]> By: technogeekagain http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1654135 technogeekagain Wed, 13 Feb 2013 04:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1654135  And whoop AFTERWARD. Whooping during has nothing to do with approval and everything to do with ego.  And whoop AFTERWARD.

Whooping during has nothing to do with approval and everything to do with ego.

]]> By: technogeekagain http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1654134 technogeekagain Wed, 13 Feb 2013 04:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1654134 Every performer has at least one piece which they aren't that delighted with (or are simply tired of) but which the audience keeps requesting. Possible responses are ignoring the requests, accepting the requests, going back and reworking it into something you're happier with, or grumbling. Grumbling is probably the least useful option. Could be worse. Could have been a throwaway written just to fill out one side of a cassette but which became the single most popular song on that album. (ObFilk:_Banned_From_Argo_) Personally, I think the attraction of a lot of Cohen's most popular work is that the near-stream-of-consciousness lyrics let you read just about anything you want into them, so the song appeals whenever you're in anything like the right mood. Hallelujah, Susanne, ... what it means is what it means, and what it is is what it is. And is is what is is. And what isn't, isn't, what? Every performer has at least one piece which they aren’t that delighted with (or are simply tired of) but which the audience keeps requesting. Possible responses are ignoring the requests, accepting the requests, going back and reworking it into something you’re happier with, or grumbling. Grumbling is probably the least useful option.

Could be worse. Could have been a throwaway written just to fill out one side of a cassette but which became the single most popular song on that album. (ObFilk:_Banned_From_Argo_)

Personally, I think the attraction of a lot of Cohen’s most popular work is that the near-stream-of-consciousness lyrics let you read just about anything you want into them, so the song appeals whenever you’re in anything like the right mood. Hallelujah, Susanne, … what it means is what it means, and what it is is what it is. And is is what is is. And what isn’t, isn’t, what?

]]> By: duncancreamer http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1653898 duncancreamer Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1653898 That's lovely. I think I still prefer K.D. Lang's version.  Interesting wardrobe malfunction at the beginning there.  That’s lovely. I think I still prefer K.D. Lang’s version. 

Interesting wardrobe malfunction at the beginning there. 

]]> By: Gerald Mander http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1653057 Gerald Mander Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1653057 "The Criminal Overuse of Hallelujah," Salon: http://www.salon.com/2011/09/19/hallelujah_already/ Even Cohen has been sick of it for years. “The Criminal Overuse of Hallelujah,” Salon: http://www.salon.com/2011/09/19/hallelujah_already/
Even Cohen has been sick of it for years.

]]> By: ohnonichole http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1652565 ohnonichole Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1652565 The KD Lang version with KD Lang singing to Leonard Cohen at an event honoring him (2006): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYiMJ2bC65A&list=PLEE57B170C83188B1&index=88 My favorite live version of her singing the same song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWbovE&list=PLEE57B170C83188B1&index=38 I'm not a fan of Amanda Palmer. Good luck to her though. The KD Lang version with KD Lang singing to Leonard Cohen at an event honoring him (2006):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYiMJ2bC65A&list=PLEE57B170C83188B1&index=88

My favorite live version of her singing the same song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWbovE&list=PLEE57B170C83188B1&index=38

I’m not a fan of Amanda Palmer. Good luck to her though.

]]> By: DMStone http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651849 DMStone Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651849 Leonard Cohen also said "I think it's a good song, but too many people sing it." http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/leonard-cohen-asks-for-brief-halt-to-new-covers-of-hallelujah-20090710 Leonard Cohen also said “I think it’s a good song, but too many people sing it.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/leonard-cohen-asks-for-brief-halt-to-new-covers-of-hallelujah-20090710

]]> By: mindysan33 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651837 mindysan33 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651837  I know it's pretty pedestrian, but I'm partial to the John Cale version... I can't say I've heard the KD Lang version, but if LC likes it, it must be special.  I know it’s pretty pedestrian, but I’m partial to the John Cale version… I can’t say I’ve heard the KD Lang version, but if LC likes it, it must be special.

]]> By: mindysan33 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651835 mindysan33 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651835  I saw here earlier this year and she wore that corset, but I was all the way in the back, so I did not realize until I saw pictures later on that it had Klaus Nomi on it. That's an awesome corset!  I saw here earlier this year and she wore that corset, but I was all the way in the back, so I did not realize until I saw pictures later on that it had Klaus Nomi on it. That’s an awesome corset!

]]> By: Ryan_T_H http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651804 Ryan_T_H Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651804 Cohen himself has said that K D Lang does the definitive version of Hallelujah. And having seen both of them live, I've got to agree. Cohen himself has said that K D Lang does the definitive version of Hallelujah. And having seen both of them live, I’ve got to agree.

]]> By: technogeekagain http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651740 technogeekagain Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651740 I just wish this had been done properly, with a tap from the mixing board, rather than having the boom of room resonance (and quite so much of the crowd noise). As it is, I honestly can't hear her well enough to have any opinion on the performance. And no, I don't think I can reprocess it enough to lift her out of the mud. Someone more skilled might be able to, but I'd be surprised. I just wish this had been done properly, with a tap from the mixing board, rather than having the boom of room resonance (and quite so much of the crowd noise). As it is, I honestly can’t hear her well enough to have any opinion on the performance.

And no, I don’t think I can reprocess it enough to lift her out of the mud. Someone more skilled might be able to, but I’d be surprised.

]]> By: Maverick http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651667 Maverick Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651667 Any volunteers? Any volunteers?

]]> By: Seth Dickens http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651657 Seth Dickens Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651657 Wow. Just Wow. That was f..in incredible. Wow. Just Wow. That was f..in incredible.

]]> By: darladoon http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651612 darladoon Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651612 Jeff Buckley's version of this song cannot be topped by anyone ever again.  It's even way better than Cohen's.   Jeff Buckley’s version of this song cannot be topped by anyone ever again.  It’s even way better than Cohen’s.  

]]> By: pupdog http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651583 pupdog Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651583 Not the first time that's happened... http://www.whokilledamandapalmer.com/ Edit: And now the previous comment shows up. Yeah that doesn't look lame at all, pd... Not the first time that’s happened…

http://www.whokilledamandapalmer.com/

Edit: And now the previous comment shows up. Yeah that doesn’t look lame at all, pd…

]]> By: JontKopeck http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651550 JontKopeck Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651550 Yeah, but the noise you should make is proportional to the noise being made on stage, you could probably whoop through a metal gig and no one would even realise. I tried to listen to that song and I'm a fan of her work, but after the first or second whoop I had to turn it off, and shout at the screen. My reaction to that at a concert would be the same, but instead of shouting I'd be biting my lip. I'd understand if they were heckling, but whoops of approval? When an artist is clearly trying to produce something so specific and delicate, the correct way to show your respect (to the performer and the audience) is to be silent. Yeah, but the noise you should make is proportional to the noise being made on stage, you could probably whoop through a metal gig and no one would even realise. I tried to listen to that song and I’m a fan of her work, but after the first or second whoop I had to turn it off, and shout at the screen. My reaction to that at a concert would be the same, but instead of shouting I’d be biting my lip.

I’d understand if they were heckling, but whoops of approval? When an artist is clearly trying to produce something so specific and delicate, the correct way to show your respect (to the performer and the audience) is to be silent.

]]> By: cservant http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651532 cservant Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651532 Because it's a concert.  People come to get entertained.  Stick with recordings if you just want to listen to the song. I gotta say, she sings with it passion, except the end, I didn't like that way of ending it.  And I still prefer Cohen's voice, maybe I'm so used to it. Cohen's almost 80 and he's still considered the man that defines cool. Because it’s a concert.  People come to get entertained.  Stick with recordings if you just want to listen to the song.

I gotta say, she sings with it passion, except the end, I didn’t like that way of ending it.  And I still prefer Cohen’s voice, maybe I’m so used to it.

Cohen’s almost 80 and he’s still considered the man that defines cool.

]]> By: pupdog http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651529 pupdog Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651529 http://www.whokilledamandapalmer.com/ http://www.whokilledamandapalmer.com/

]]> By: DonBoy2 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651510 DonBoy2 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651510 Why the hell do idiots insist on shouting "WOOOOO!" during quiet moments of concerts? Why the hell do idiots insist on shouting “WOOOOO!” during quiet moments of concerts?

]]> By: Andrew Hlavats http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651507 Andrew Hlavats Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651507 Props to anyone who noticed the Klaus Nomi on her outfit. <3 Props to anyone who noticed the Klaus Nomi on her outfit. <3

]]> By: legsmalone http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651498 legsmalone Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651498 My brain read "Amanda Palmer" and registered "Laura Palmer" and I got really confused. My brain read “Amanda Palmer” and registered “Laura Palmer” and I got really confused.

]]> By: Jim Saul http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651495 Jim Saul Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651495 Beautiful and heartfelt, it inspired me to finally find the lyrics. Along with Tower of Song and so many others, the soulful power of his imagery makes me hope that ten thousand years after the fall there will exist, in remote hidden cloisters, a secret sect of gnostic Cohenite monks who murmur his words as midnight vespers offered to the Lord of Song. Beautiful and heartfelt, it inspired me to finally find the lyrics. Along with Tower of Song and so many others, the soulful power of his imagery makes me hope that ten thousand years after the fall there will exist, in remote hidden cloisters, a secret sect of gnostic Cohenite monks who murmur his words as midnight vespers offered to the Lord of Song.

]]> By: Matthew Urso http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/amanda-palmer-hallelujah.html#comment-1651487 Matthew Urso Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212141#comment-1651487 needs more hiss needs more hiss

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