Comments on: Confessions of a fifth grade punk http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 13:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Paul Renault http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1655615 Paul Renault Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1655615  Oy...  From her fifth-grade diary: "..the singers do not like the man.  They even cuss at him!  I don't know who 'the man' is..." That, and a fair number of rappers (from what I'm told) have homophobic lyrics...  Oy…  From her fifth-grade diary: “..the singers do not like the man.  They even cuss at him!  I don’t know who ‘the man’ is…”

That, and a fair number of rappers (from what I’m told) have homophobic lyrics…

]]> By: Martijn http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1653211 Martijn Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1653211 She claims to be almost 15 in the diary entry. But I fully admit having no idea how American-style grades match to age. She claims to be almost 15 in the diary entry. But I fully admit having no idea how American-style grades match to age.

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652537 blueelm Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652537 I think she's 15 *now* not then. I think she’s 15 *now* not then.

]]> By: Jake Rennie http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652400 Jake Rennie Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652400 Look up Beat Happening, they bridged the gap between punk and twee pop. Look up Beat Happening, they bridged the gap between punk and twee pop.

]]> By: Jake Rennie http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652394 Jake Rennie Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652394 Jello Biafra never rapped about his boyfriend. It was a pretty noticable omission, actually. I think his intention was to snub him. Jello Biafra never rapped about his boyfriend. It was a pretty noticable omission, actually. I think his intention was to snub him.

]]> By: Faith Landsman http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652360 Faith Landsman Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652360 I wanted the DJ to play the Dead Kennedys at my Bat Mitzvah in 1983. I was overruled by my parents. Of course I was also wearing a Gunne Sax dress with a collar up to my chin, so I guess not very punk after all.  But I grew up to be a real teenage wannabe punk rocker in L.A. and got kicked out of my temple one afternoon in 1986 for having dyed my hair purple with Manic Panic purchased at Wacko on Melrose.  So stick it to The Man! I wanted the DJ to play the Dead Kennedys at my Bat Mitzvah in 1983. I was overruled by my parents. Of course I was also wearing a Gunne Sax dress with a collar up to my chin, so I guess not very punk after all.  But I grew up to be a real teenage wannabe punk rocker in L.A. and got kicked out of my temple one afternoon in 1986 for having dyed my hair purple with Manic Panic purchased at Wacko on Melrose. 

So stick it to The Man!

]]> By: Mitchell Powers http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652341 Mitchell Powers Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652341 You have sixty seconds to explain the F.U.'s. Go. You have sixty seconds to explain the F.U.’s. Go.

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652325 wysinwyg Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652325 D'aww!  This just makes me think punk needs more cute. D’aww!  This just makes me think punk needs more cute.

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652323 wysinwyg Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652323  Lemme guess, you can tell by the pixels.  <a href="http://hollywoodlog.typepad.com/nickerblog/2013/01/tricks-to-successful-internetting.html" rel="nofollow">Check out #4.</a>  Lemme guess, you can tell by the pixels.  Check out #4.

]]> By: Arys http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652283 Arys Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652283  "It's Rex Manning Day!"  ”It’s Rex Manning Day!”

]]> By: alfanovember http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652242 alfanovember Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652242 You're not punk, and I'm telling everyone! You’re not punk, and I’m telling everyone!

]]> By: huskerdont http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652164 huskerdont Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652164  "I say Punk means cuddle" - Tsunami  ”I say Punk means cuddle”
- Tsunami

]]> By: Clifton http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652101 Clifton Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652101 Awesomely cute. I know a bright 5th grader who could easily write something like this; when she was in 4th grade (age 9) she told me earnestly that she was a very weird person and that most people couldn't understand her. I would never hurt her feelings by telling her how adorable that was. Awesomely cute. I know a bright 5th grader who could easily write something like this; when she was in 4th grade (age 9) she told me earnestly that she was a very weird person and that most people couldn’t understand her. I would never hurt her feelings by telling her how adorable that was.

]]> By: Thomas Sissons http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652093 Thomas Sissons Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652093 I think it's probably true of any political consciousness when you're that age. You're not really old enough to form really independent political ideas without reference to outside sources. I think it’s probably true of any political consciousness when you’re that age. You’re not really old enough to form really independent political ideas without reference to outside sources.

]]> By: Fef http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652058 Fef Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652058  As a Hoosier, I'll vouch: She's right.  As a Hoosier, I’ll vouch: She’s right.

]]> By: Lucy Gothro http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652056 Lucy Gothro Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652056 Anybody who dots their lower case "I"s with little hearts is NOT punk. Or at least not completely. When I was in 5th grade, I wanted to be Detroit's version of Harriet the Spy. Anybody who dots their lower case “I”s with little hearts is NOT punk. Or at least not completely. When I was in 5th grade, I wanted to be Detroit’s version of Harriet the Spy.

]]> By: Aldous Schenck http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652013 Aldous Schenck Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652013 Yup, the wild tonal shift from arch & worldly ("lying does not count in the library") to shocked - shocked! - and wide-eyed ("They even cuss at him!") strikes me as utterly false.   Yup, the wild tonal shift from arch & worldly (“lying does not count in the library”) to shocked – shocked! – and wide-eyed (“They even cuss at him!”) strikes me as utterly false.  

]]> By: Boundegar http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652012 Boundegar Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652012 I thought her analysis of fashism was accurate, and also her identification of the Man.  Pretty perceptive for a 5th grader. I thought her analysis of fashism was accurate, and also her identification of the Man.  Pretty perceptive for a 5th grader.

]]> By: Christopher http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1652002 Christopher Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1652002 Wow. This brings back memories of forging my parents' signature so I could check out <b>Slaughterhouse Five</b> from the library and being desperately afraid they were going to find my soundtrack of <i>The Rocky Horror Picture Show</i>. Wow. This brings back memories of forging my parents’ signature so I could check out Slaughterhouse Five from the library and being desperately afraid they were going to find my soundtrack of The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

]]> By: novium http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651962 novium Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651962 I don't think it's meant to be 14. 5th graders are usually around 11 years old. I don’t think it’s meant to be 14. 5th graders are usually around 11 years old.

]]> By: Martijn http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651956 Martijn Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651956 To me it reads like a few years younger than the 14 it claims. I'd believe this from a 12 year old, but at 14, I'd expect better punk knowledge, more political knowledge, and less hearts. But maybe teens changed since I was young. To me it reads like a few years younger than the 14 it claims. I’d believe this from a 12 year old, but at 14, I’d expect better punk knowledge, more political knowledge, and less hearts.

But maybe teens changed since I was young.

]]> By: Manel http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651912 Manel Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651912  Too cute - and punk as fuck!  I hope it's real and not contrived.  But even if it is contrived, it's adorable.   Too cute – and punk as fuck!  I hope it’s real and not contrived.  But even if it is contrived, it’s adorable. 

]]> By: orangedesperado http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651856 orangedesperado Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651856 Geez dude, don't ask Jello, go here for some enlightenment: http://www.deadkennedysnews.com/faq.htm Geez dude, don’t ask Jello, go here for some enlightenment:

http://www.deadkennedysnews.com/faq.htm

]]> By: Mazoola http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651854 Mazoola Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651854 I never knew Jello Biafra had such intense feelings about Jack Albertson. I never knew Jello Biafra had such intense feelings about Jack Albertson.

]]> By: rocketpjs http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651845 rocketpjs Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651845 Sued.... Successfully?  A key point in the story if you ask me... Sued…. Successfully?  A key point in the story if you ask me…

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651825 blueelm Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651825 Well it damned sure doesn't sound like me when I was a kid, but then again I scanned a story I wrote and drew when I was six or so and honestly.... I don't think I've made a better piece of art in my life. By fifth grade  I would definitely have been writing suicidal poetry and stories about gory murders, haunted apartments, or cruel nihilistic fantasy lands while listening to terrible music. So... now that I think about that, nothing's changed much. And maybe that *is* what makes this seem suspect. There's the suggestion of sooo much change here. But who knows. I remember the existence of other girls in school with me and some of them seemed kind of like they could have written this. That being said, I don't know what song it is referencing either. It seems like if you were going to fake something like this, you'd do the homework. Well it damned sure doesn’t sound like me when I was a kid, but then again I scanned a story I wrote and drew when I was six or so and honestly…. I don’t think I’ve made a better piece of art in my life.

By fifth grade  I would definitely have been writing suicidal poetry and stories about gory murders, haunted apartments, or cruel nihilistic fantasy lands while listening to terrible music.

So… now that I think about that, nothing’s changed much. And maybe that *is* what makes this seem suspect. There’s the suggestion of sooo much change here.

But who knows. I remember the existence of other girls in school with me and some of them seemed kind of like they could have written this.

That being said, I don’t know what song it is referencing either. It seems like if you were going to fake something like this, you’d do the homework.

]]> By: Paul Renault http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651815 Paul Renault Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651815 Maybe 'the man' is the rapper's boyfriend. Maybe ‘the man’ is the rapper’s boyfriend.

]]> By: orangedesperado http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651795 orangedesperado Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651795 The man in the band who got sued by the rest of the band for stealing $$$$$ from their own label ! So he might have turned into "the man" what with the rip-off philosophy and lies about his former bandmates. (Even though he was great, when he was great, prior to this disgrace). The man in the band who got sued by the rest of the band for stealing $$$$$ from their own label ! So he might have turned into “the man” what with the rip-off philosophy and lies about his former bandmates.

(Even though he was great, when he was great, prior to this disgrace).

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651789 blueelm Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651789 Love her drawing style! I wish I'd been half as cute or half as punk in fifth grade! Love her drawing style! I wish I’d been half as cute or half as punk in fifth grade!

]]> By: jclark666 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/confessions-of-a-fifth-grade-p.html#comment-1651788 jclark666 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212093#comment-1651788 The misspellings and over-the-top delivery peg my BS meters.  It feels exactly like a high school senior trying to write like a naive fifth grader.  I'm not saying the author isn't expressing a reflection of her experience, but it's truthy, not truth. Other than "The Man with the Dogs" I can't think of a DK song with "the man" in the lyrics.  ("landlord man" and "medicine man" i can think of off the top of my head, but not "the man").  And DK were never shy about naming names.  Now, if there were questions about the identities of Jerry Falwell or Phylis Schaffley or Jerry Brown... It's cute, and we can sympathize with her naievete, but I don't think it's real. The misspellings and over-the-top delivery peg my BS meters.  It feels exactly like a high school senior trying to write like a naive fifth grader.  I’m not saying the author isn’t expressing a reflection of her experience, but it’s truthy, not truth.

Other than “The Man with the Dogs” I can’t think of a DK song with “the man” in the lyrics.  (“landlord man” and “medicine man” i can think of off the top of my head, but not “the man”).  And DK were never shy about naming names.  Now, if there were questions about the identities of Jerry Falwell or Phylis Schaffley or Jerry Brown…

It’s cute, and we can sympathize with her naievete, but I don’t think it’s real.

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