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	<title>Comments on: London mayor praises horse&#160;meat</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1653104</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read somewhere today that 70,000 horses who should be in the system in Ireland are no longer locatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere today that 70,000 horses who should be in the system in Ireland are no longer locatable.</p>
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		<title>By: ImmutableMichael</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImmutableMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the nested litotes I find damnable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the nested litotes I find damnable.</p>
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		<title>By: nyrge</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyrge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of a possible explanation, from a Norwegian saga:

&quot;The holy king Olaf made the folk of the west become christian, and bid them build a church on that place where now is a priest&#039;s steading.

The chief Thorstein (Stone of Thor) lived on his farm close by. He was cutting hay with his scythe on the marshes when the messenger came from the king to bid him to let himself be made christian and join in the building of a church. Thorstein was so upset by the demand that folks for centuries to come could see the deep furrows in the marshes after each cut of the scythe  which he swung in his rage.

Finally he threw his scythe down, took an axe and swore that if the tree he was now going to fell would not serve as door post in this church, he would do no more work on the building.

The tree was felled, and the chief carried it himself like a staff in his hand to the king, who was overjoyed and made his craftsmen cut a doorstep out of it and place it in the church.But Olaf was not fully satisfied with Thorstein. While the work was done, Thorstein had made provisions for himself out of a large ham of a horse, and would not let go of it, no matter what the king told him against the eating of horse. Thorstein did not object to anything the king Olav told him about the White Christ, but that you weren&#039;t allowed to eat horse meat, he could not understand at all.

And ever since, horse meat is only used in sausage, where you normally can&#039;t tell it&#039;s there.

The saying is: The sausage is divine, for only God knows what&#039;s in it.&quot;

In other words: In germanic cultures, horse was normally eaten as part of the sacrificial feasts. The first christian kings persecuted the folk religion, and with it the eating of horse meat. There was a time when eating horse could get you hanged as a pagan. Old taboos persist. No such conflict in romanesque France.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of a possible explanation, from a Norwegian saga:</p>
<p>&#8220;The holy king Olaf made the folk of the west become christian, and bid them build a church on that place where now is a priest&#8217;s steading.</p>
<p>The chief Thorstein (Stone of Thor) lived on his farm close by. He was cutting hay with his scythe on the marshes when the messenger came from the king to bid him to let himself be made christian and join in the building of a church. Thorstein was so upset by the demand that folks for centuries to come could see the deep furrows in the marshes after each cut of the scythe  which he swung in his rage.</p>
<p>Finally he threw his scythe down, took an axe and swore that if the tree he was now going to fell would not serve as door post in this church, he would do no more work on the building.</p>
<p>The tree was felled, and the chief carried it himself like a staff in his hand to the king, who was overjoyed and made his craftsmen cut a doorstep out of it and place it in the church.But Olaf was not fully satisfied with Thorstein. While the work was done, Thorstein had made provisions for himself out of a large ham of a horse, and would not let go of it, no matter what the king told him against the eating of horse. Thorstein did not object to anything the king Olav told him about the White Christ, but that you weren&#8217;t allowed to eat horse meat, he could not understand at all.</p>
<p>And ever since, horse meat is only used in sausage, where you normally can&#8217;t tell it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>The saying is: The sausage is divine, for only God knows what&#8217;s in it.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words: In germanic cultures, horse was normally eaten as part of the sacrificial feasts. The first christian kings persecuted the folk religion, and with it the eating of horse meat. There was a time when eating horse could get you hanged as a pagan. Old taboos persist. No such conflict in romanesque France.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthroatb</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepthroatb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.
The main arse-about-tit problem with &#039;organic&#039; here in UK is that a huge amount of foods that are produced organically are not allowed to be sold as such. Because they come from very small suppliers who cannot afford the fees that registering as officially Organic incur.
Our entire commercial &#039;Organic Food&#039; culture is all about the paperwork and the money raised for Central Government and very little to do with actual food quality.
Labelling counts for very little here, in real terms. People have just been fooled into believing the hype. When something like this comes to light it gives them an excuse to get their knickers in a twist in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.<br />
The main arse-about-tit problem with &#8216;organic&#8217; here in UK is that a huge amount of foods that are produced organically are not allowed to be sold as such. Because they come from very small suppliers who cannot afford the fees that registering as officially Organic incur.<br />
Our entire commercial &#8216;Organic Food&#8217; culture is all about the paperwork and the money raised for Central Government and very little to do with actual food quality.<br />
Labelling counts for very little here, in real terms. People have just been fooled into believing the hype. When something like this comes to light it gives them an excuse to get their knickers in a twist in public.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthroatb</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepthroatb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.&quot;People in Britain eating processed food cannot be certain they know what they are eating&quot;.
And?
Happens all the time. We&#039;ve just fostered an entire strata of over-concerned, public-display (mostly) parents who work themselves into a tizzy if something isn&#039;t &#039;labelled&#039; correctly.
If they were that concerned about what they eat they&#039;d go live on a farm where they can grow their own GM/pesticide-free veg (good luck with that), raise their own meat and slaughter it by their own hand.
But that&#039;s too much like hard work. They&#039;d rather sit behind their laptops, ordering from Waitrose Online and kvetch about the percentages of whatever in their whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.&#8221;People in Britain eating processed food cannot be certain they know what they are eating&#8221;.<br />
And?<br />
Happens all the time. We&#8217;ve just fostered an entire strata of over-concerned, public-display (mostly) parents who work themselves into a tizzy if something isn&#8217;t &#8216;labelled&#8217; correctly.<br />
If they were that concerned about what they eat they&#8217;d go live on a farm where they can grow their own GM/pesticide-free veg (good luck with that), raise their own meat and slaughter it by their own hand.<br />
But that&#8217;s too much like hard work. They&#8217;d rather sit behind their laptops, ordering from Waitrose Online and kvetch about the percentages of whatever in their whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Irish horse passport can be forged with a printing kit costing a fiver and a 12 pence chip. An old nag full of phenylbutazone (or whatever) can be picked up for 10 or 20 quid, its passport switched, and sold on for 500 quid. That said, the Irish horse meat industry is worth only 6 million a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Irish horse passport can be forged with a printing kit costing a fiver and a 12 pence chip. An old nag full of phenylbutazone (or whatever) can be picked up for 10 or 20 quid, its passport switched, and sold on for 500 quid. That said, the Irish horse meat industry is worth only 6 million a year.</p>
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		<title>By: legsmalone</title>
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		<dc:creator>legsmalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...it&#039;s practically impossible that such cheap meat would have undergone the regular quality controls and -standards.&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t go so far there. At least here in the states we have the USDA which inspects every slaughterhouse for every animal. Even small farmers have to register their operations with the USDA and are inspected regularly. No matter how cheap the meat is, we have some line of accountability. I&#039;m not saying that this is the best scenario, but at least it offers some sort of paper trail, or meat trail. All the small trim and undesirable bits that are destined for pet food or Spam or soup mixes etc came from animals that at some point crossed paths with an agent.

tl;dr even dog food gets inspected
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;it&#8217;s practically impossible that such cheap meat would have undergone the regular quality controls and -standards.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go so far there. At least here in the states we have the USDA which inspects every slaughterhouse for every animal. Even small farmers have to register their operations with the USDA and are inspected regularly. No matter how cheap the meat is, we have some line of accountability. I&#8217;m not saying that this is the best scenario, but at least it offers some sort of paper trail, or meat trail. All the small trim and undesirable bits that are destined for pet food or Spam or soup mixes etc came from animals that at some point crossed paths with an agent.</p>
<p>tl;dr even dog food gets inspected</p>
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		<title>By: feetleet</title>
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		<dc:creator>feetleet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This struck me as pet outrage, that&#039;s the point. Concern trolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This struck me as pet outrage, that&#8217;s the point. Concern trolling.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652751</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not like the horse was unsafe to eat, microbially or by merit of its horsiness.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It was unsafe to eat because some of it contains a drug that&#039;s not safe for humans.
&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not like most grocery store food - animal and plant - doesn&#039;t contain trace amounts of insect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Quite a few of the samples contained 100% horse meat, not &quot;trace amounts&quot;.

Not sure the point of your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not like the horse was unsafe to eat, microbially or by merit of its horsiness.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was unsafe to eat because some of it contains a drug that&#8217;s not safe for humans.</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not like most grocery store food &#8211; animal and plant &#8211; doesn&#8217;t contain trace amounts of insect.</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite a few of the samples contained 100% horse meat, not &#8220;trace amounts&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not sure the point of your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemoutan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemoutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of them don&#039;t walk.</description>
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		<title>By: feetleet</title>
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		<dc:creator>feetleet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not like the horse was unsafe to eat, microbially or by merit of its horsiness. It&#039;s not like you ordered halal and they tricked you into eating pig. It&#039;s not like anyone actually thought those bargain barrel beans were really &#039;magic&#039; beans. It&#039;s not like the people on the warpath are the ones who actually bought or ate these dinners. It&#039;s not like most of them even eat meat. It&#039;s not like cows are the only bovines. It&#039;s not like the word &#039;beef&#039; is specific to cows. It&#039;s not like you could make these complaints with a straight face if the mystery meat was venison or buffalo (also a &#039;beef&#039; product). It&#039;s not like most grocery store food - animal and plant - doesn&#039;t contain trace amounts of insect. It&#039;s not like they advertise that fact. It&#039;s not like anyone could taste the difference. It&#039;s not like your body knows the difference between generic and brand name prescription drugs. You buy the latter so that if something goes wrong, you have a deeper pocket to sue. I know that an All-Beef American Hot Dog probably contains little to no beef, despite its pious protestation. I know because it costs 1/10 the price of its weight in bona fide beef. I&#039;m with you - it sucks to be 100% lied to. But if you didn&#039;t already have your suspicions, you&#039;re pretty naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not like the horse was unsafe to eat, microbially or by merit of its horsiness. It&#8217;s not like you ordered halal and they tricked you into eating pig. It&#8217;s not like anyone actually thought those bargain barrel beans were really &#8216;magic&#8217; beans. It&#8217;s not like the people on the warpath are the ones who actually bought or ate these dinners. It&#8217;s not like most of them even eat meat. It&#8217;s not like cows are the only bovines. It&#8217;s not like the word &#8216;beef&#8217; is specific to cows. It&#8217;s not like you could make these complaints with a straight face if the mystery meat was venison or buffalo (also a &#8216;beef&#8217; product). It&#8217;s not like most grocery store food &#8211; animal and plant &#8211; doesn&#8217;t contain trace amounts of insect. It&#8217;s not like they advertise that fact. It&#8217;s not like anyone could taste the difference. It&#8217;s not like your body knows the difference between generic and brand name prescription drugs. You buy the latter so that if something goes wrong, you have a deeper pocket to sue. I know that an All-Beef American Hot Dog probably contains little to no beef, despite its pious protestation. I know because it costs 1/10 the price of its weight in bona fide beef. I&#8217;m with you &#8211; it sucks to be 100% lied to. But if you didn&#8217;t already have your suspicions, you&#8217;re pretty naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652628</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris is looking a lot like Robert Morley these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris is looking a lot like Robert Morley these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652617</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taboos about homosexuality don&#039;t appear in almost every culture; they appear in most major religions.  Big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taboos about homosexuality don&#8217;t appear in almost every culture; they appear in most major religions.  Big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: bcsizemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcsizemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be implying every other animal we consume isn&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be implying every other animal we consume isn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leviticus doesn&#039;t need to be specific about horses. Their hooves aren&#039;t cloven and they cheweth not the cud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leviticus doesn&#8217;t need to be specific about horses. Their hooves aren&#8217;t cloven and they cheweth not the cud.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s using the Royal Subjunctive.  If you ask me if it&#039;s going to rain tomorrow, I&#039;ll reply, &quot;Yes.&quot;  The Prince of Wales will say, &quot;Well, one wouldn&#039;t not think that, would one?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s using the Royal Subjunctive.  If you ask me if it&#8217;s going to rain tomorrow, I&#8217;ll reply, &#8220;Yes.&#8221;  The Prince of Wales will say, &#8220;Well, one wouldn&#8217;t not think that, would one?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eviladrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>eviladrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yeah, after all the other crazy crap that&#039;s turned up in European food products over the years, from prions to PCBs, is it any wonder people might be concerned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yeah, after all the other crazy crap that&#8217;s turned up in European food products over the years, from prions to PCBs, is it any wonder people might be concerned?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&#039;t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don&#8217;t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US horses have been described as walking pharmaceutical factories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US horses have been described as walking pharmaceutical factories.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody caught a runaway horse in Ireland.  When they checked its chip, it had supposedly been slaughtered.  Because there&#039;s an industry that switches passports between smaller, clean horses and larger, non-food-grade horses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody caught a runaway horse in Ireland.  When they checked its chip, it had supposedly been slaughtered.  Because there&#8217;s an industry that switches passports between smaller, clean horses and larger, non-food-grade horses.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curiosity got the best of me and I ended up coming across this interesting tidbit:

&lt;i&gt;Food avoidances and taboos have historically been based on religion, or have functioned to demonstrate social status differences between individuals and social groupings. Although Leviticus is silent on the specific issue of horse, in 723, Pope Gregory III indicated that the eating of horses was a ‘filthy and abominable custom’ in his instructions to Boniface, Bishop to the Germans. In Ireland, the Canones hibernenses, which date from the 7th century, impose an unusually harsh penance of 4 y on bread and water for the consumption of horsemeat.The explanation of this nonbiblically based Canon Law is that the consumption of horsemeat was associated with pre-Christian Celtic and Teutonic religious sacrifice.
 The church condemnation of horsemeat consumption was directed to suppressing pagan practices and distinguishing the Christian from the heathen&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2034431/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curiosity got the best of me and I ended up coming across this interesting tidbit:</p>
<p><i>Food avoidances and taboos have historically been based on religion, or have functioned to demonstrate social status differences between individuals and social groupings. Although Leviticus is silent on the specific issue of horse, in 723, Pope Gregory III indicated that the eating of horses was a ‘filthy and abominable custom’ in his instructions to Boniface, Bishop to the Germans. In Ireland, the Canones hibernenses, which date from the 7th century, impose an unusually harsh penance of 4 y on bread and water for the consumption of horsemeat.The explanation of this nonbiblically based Canon Law is that the consumption of horsemeat was associated with pre-Christian Celtic and Teutonic religious sacrifice.<br />
 The church condemnation of horsemeat consumption was directed to suppressing pagan practices and distinguishing the Christian from the heathen</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2034431/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2034431/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652514</link>
		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60% of the time, I agree with him every time! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60% of the time, I agree with him every time! </p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652509</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really very tasty. It&#039;s like veal, without the suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really very tasty. It&#8217;s like veal, without the suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652507</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m not entirely sure what that has to do with eating horsemeat. The British use glue and gelatin too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m not entirely sure what that has to do with eating horsemeat. The British use glue and gelatin too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652505</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo. It&#039;s different from ordering one meal in a restaurent and getting another due to a kitchen error. It&#039;s more like ordering say, lasagna, getting tortellini, and the restaurent staff &lt;i&gt;insisting&lt;/i&gt; that &quot;lasagna&quot; is in fact meat stuffed into little folded dumplings. Well, no, it isn&#039;t, and this whole thing is really fishy.

(I&#039;m not terribly picky in the way of species, but I may fuss over preparation, or how it was acquired.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo. It&#8217;s different from ordering one meal in a restaurent and getting another due to a kitchen error. It&#8217;s more like ordering say, lasagna, getting tortellini, and the restaurent staff <i>insisting</i> that &#8220;lasagna&#8221; is in fact meat stuffed into little folded dumplings. Well, no, it isn&#8217;t, and this whole thing is really fishy.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m not terribly picky in the way of species, but I may fuss over preparation, or how it was acquired.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652502</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Dog-eating cultures, to my knowledge, don&#039;t eat their companion dogs. They have specific breeds for the purpose, and they are raised as food animals, not as housepets.

Not terribly surprisingly, though; we&#039;ve bred dogs for every other purpose, it makes sense to breed dogs to be good for eating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Dog-eating cultures, to my knowledge, don&#8217;t eat their companion dogs. They have specific breeds for the purpose, and they are raised as food animals, not as housepets.</p>
<p>Not terribly surprisingly, though; we&#8217;ve bred dogs for every other purpose, it makes sense to breed dogs to be good for eating.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652500</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is more the problem: When you say &quot;eat horses&quot; people think you&#039;re going into the barn and shooting some 10 year old girl&#039;s pet pony for steaks.

Eatin&#039; horses are end-of-life horses, preferably work horses. Age and work improves their meat quality, instead of degrading it like with cattle and sheep. Young horse isn&#039;t tender - old horse that&#039;s lived a full life is tender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is more the problem: When you say &#8220;eat horses&#8221; people think you&#8217;re going into the barn and shooting some 10 year old girl&#8217;s pet pony for steaks.</p>
<p>Eatin&#8217; horses are end-of-life horses, preferably work horses. Age and work improves their meat quality, instead of degrading it like with cattle and sheep. Young horse isn&#8217;t tender &#8211; old horse that&#8217;s lived a full life is tender.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652498</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who think horses are specially beautiful need their heads examined. Gangly legged, knobby kneed, gawky headed, and wall eyed. :D

There&#039;s lovely looking horses and stupid looking horses, just like there are lovely looking cows and mean looking cows, or beautifully ornamental chickens and chickens that look sort of like a feathery sack with a head and feet.

Appearance doesn&#039;t have (very) much to do with whether the animal tastes good, makes a good companion, or does good work.

I think it&#039;s more a problem that some people can only imagine horses as companion animals (a pretty popular childhood fantasy) and eating companions is naturally taboo. Stinks too much of cannibalism. There&#039;s a big difference between a pet pig and an eating pig, and I don&#039;t see why there shouldn&#039;t be one for horses as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who think horses are specially beautiful need their heads examined. Gangly legged, knobby kneed, gawky headed, and wall eyed. :D</p>
<p>There&#8217;s lovely looking horses and stupid looking horses, just like there are lovely looking cows and mean looking cows, or beautifully ornamental chickens and chickens that look sort of like a feathery sack with a head and feet.</p>
<p>Appearance doesn&#8217;t have (very) much to do with whether the animal tastes good, makes a good companion, or does good work.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more a problem that some people can only imagine horses as companion animals (a pretty popular childhood fantasy) and eating companions is naturally taboo. Stinks too much of cannibalism. There&#8217;s a big difference between a pet pig and an eating pig, and I don&#8217;t see why there shouldn&#8217;t be one for horses as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See it didn&#039;t go though Byzantium at all, I call bullshit.... I mean horseshit! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See it didn&#8217;t go though Byzantium at all, I call bullshit&#8230;. I mean horseshit! </p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/london-mayor-praises-horse-mea.html#comment-1652486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> If a dinner is labeled &quot;chicken&quot; and turns out to have pork in it instead of chicken, this has implications for quite a few people.

First off is the plain and simple thing that some people don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; to eat pork. Some people are prohibited from eating pork for religious reasons. Some people can&#039;t eat pork for medical reasons. &lt;i&gt;All&lt;/i&gt; of us are entitled to know that it&#039;s pork, not chicken, because we tried to buy a chicken meal and got pork instead.

It&#039;s about &lt;i&gt;fraud&lt;/i&gt;. Especially if you&#039;re buying one thing and get a cheaper second thing substituted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> If a dinner is labeled &#8220;chicken&#8221; and turns out to have pork in it instead of chicken, this has implications for quite a few people.</p>
<p>First off is the plain and simple thing that some people don&#8217;t <i>like</i> to eat pork. Some people are prohibited from eating pork for religious reasons. Some people can&#8217;t eat pork for medical reasons. <i>All</i> of us are entitled to know that it&#8217;s pork, not chicken, because we tried to buy a chicken meal and got pork instead.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about <i>fraud</i>. Especially if you&#8217;re buying one thing and get a cheaper second thing substituted.</p>
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