Comments on: Snapchat raises $13.5 million to help teens sext more effectively http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 14:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653709 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653709 Just so that you know, he has a set of clean accounts, for which he's given you the passwords, and a set of real accounts, for which he hasn't. Just so that you know, he has a set of clean accounts, for which he’s given you the passwords, and a set of real accounts, for which he hasn’t.

]]> By: Grambo http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653496 Grambo Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653496 I think apple might need to add a third camera to their next iPhone for that... I think apple might need to add a third camera to their next iPhone for that…

]]> By: mccrum http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653255 mccrum Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653255 You too!  Off the lawn! You too!  Off the lawn!

]]> By: mccrum http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653244 mccrum Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653244 Get off my lawn! Get off my lawn!

]]> By: showme http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653224 showme Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653224 So dicks and boobs work, but how about cooches? So dicks and boobs work, but how about cooches?

]]> By: Rick Westerman http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653204 Rick Westerman Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653204 "A parent can only teach judgement." That has always been true.  The times may be a-changin' but kids have always been able to screw themselves up.  I certainly could have in the pre-internet days 40+ years ago without my parents knowing.  Fortunately they did teach judgement. “A parent can only teach judgement.”

That has always been true.  The times may be a-changin’ but kids have always been able to screw themselves up.  I certainly could have in the pre-internet days 40+ years ago without my parents knowing.  Fortunately they did teach judgement.

]]> By: Cocomaan http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653198 Cocomaan Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653198 I can believe that. None of the whiny boingboingers are likely to listen to you, though. I can believe that. None of the whiny boingboingers are likely to listen to you, though.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653195 oasisob1 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653195 And by choicest you mean all, right? And by choicest you mean all, right?

]]> By: Dlo Burns http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653191 Dlo Burns Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653191 I'm -very- interested in burn-during-reading porn, that imediency just makes it more exciting. I’m -very- interested in burn-during-reading porn, that imediency just makes it more exciting.

]]> By: creesto http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653171 creesto Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653171 We have a 13 year old son who carries an 3GS iphone, has an ipad that he bought himself, and also a beat up laptop. We have had several discussions about how easy it can be to screw up your life in a big way, a "blue dot on your address with the Sheriff's office" kind of way, especially as to exchanging explicit photos. We insist on knowing his passwords so that we can access his devices whenever we choose, and even do unexpected as well as sneak inspections. He has never been on fb, he prefers instagram, and now uses KIK instead of texting. Most of his older brother's friends use twitter as their main channel. There is no way in hell any parent can keep up with the new apps and tech that kids will uncover and use to operate secretly. A parent can only teach judgement. Times they are a-changin' We have a 13 year old son who carries an 3GS iphone, has an ipad that he bought himself, and also a beat up laptop. We have had several discussions about how easy it can be to screw up your life in a big way, a “blue dot on your address with the Sheriff’s office” kind of way, especially as to exchanging explicit photos. We insist on knowing his passwords so that we can access his devices whenever we choose, and even do unexpected as well as sneak inspections. He has never been on fb, he prefers instagram, and now uses KIK instead of texting. Most of his older brother’s friends use twitter as their main channel. There is no way in hell any parent can keep up with the new apps and tech that kids will uncover and use to operate secretly. A parent can only teach judgement. Times they are a-changin’

]]> By: Quiche de Resistance http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653167 Quiche de Resistance Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653167 "The messages are ephemeral, and vanish irretrievably shortly after they're sent..." “The messages are ephemeral, and vanish irretrievably shortly after they’re sent…”

]]> By: Seamus Guy http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653158 Seamus Guy Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653158 High school senior here, I can tell you I know a hundred people who use snapchat, and none who use it for sexting. Everyone knows what it's built for, but literally 100% of the people I know who have it use it to annoy their friends with funny pictures and that sort of thing. High school senior here, I can tell you I know a hundred people who use snapchat, and none who use it for sexting. Everyone knows what it’s built for, but literally 100% of the people I know who have it use it to annoy their friends with funny pictures and that sort of thing.

]]> By: C W http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653155 C W Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653155 "But unlike with conventional sexting, pictures don't get saved unintentionally or casually" I don't think those are ever saved "unintentionally or casually". “But unlike with conventional sexting, pictures don’t get saved unintentionally or casually”

I don’t think those are ever saved “unintentionally or casually”.

]]> By: C W http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653156 C W Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653156 Nah, then they're "notified". Nah, then they’re “notified”.

]]> By: Textuality http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653112 Textuality Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653112 Odds on that those two guys are siphoning off the choicest pics for themselves. :D Odds on that those two guys are siphoning off the choicest pics for themselves. :D

]]> By: Forrest O. http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653099 Forrest O. Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653099 Power button + circle button, right? Power button + circle button, right?

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653098 Itsumishi Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653098 Which no doubt is outlined in the terms of service, <em>and in the article this post refers to</em>.  Which no doubt is outlined in the terms of service, and in the article this post refers to. 

]]> By: Daemonworks http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653069 Daemonworks Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653069  Never underestimate people's ability to be stupid.  Never underestimate people’s ability to be stupid.

]]> By: $19428857 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653030 $19428857 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653030 "I don't think most users are dumb enough to think..." Spoken like someone who hasn't been a teenager in a while and has forgotten how incredibly stupid they can be,  and/or hasn't been a parent of teenagers, who will, quite unbidden, remind one of how stupid teenagers can be. "Daddy, I didn't think it could.." is a common refrain at my house, and my kid is at the far right of the bell curve on intelligence and has always been an easy, "good" kid. Teenagers also won't be real good at the "I want you to see this now, but not keep it...And if you do, it'll be pretty clear you did it intentionally." Sexting usually is done with the implied "You won't show this to anyone" attached. All this changes is you'll have to google how to make a screen shot so the next time yer honey sexts you are ready to save it. Net skeeviness? Very high, but not much higher than it was the old way. “I don’t think most users are dumb enough to think…” Spoken like someone who hasn’t been a teenager in a while and has forgotten how incredibly stupid they can be,  and/or hasn’t been a parent of teenagers, who will, quite unbidden, remind one of how stupid teenagers can be. “Daddy, I didn’t think it could..” is a common refrain at my house, and my kid is at the far right of the bell curve on intelligence and has always been an easy, “good” kid. Teenagers also won’t be real good at the “I want you to see this now, but not keep it…And if you do, it’ll be pretty clear you did it intentionally.” Sexting usually is done with the implied “You won’t show this to anyone” attached. All this changes is you’ll have to google how to make a screen shot so the next time yer honey sexts you are ready to save it. Net skeeviness? Very high, but not much higher than it was the old way.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1653012 EH Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1653012  Conventionally known as "the analog hole" in DRM.  Conventionally known as “the analog hole” in DRM.

]]> By: ZikZak http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652998 ZikZak Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652998 I don't think most users are dumb enough to think that there's no technical way for the picture to be saved.  But unlike with conventional sexting, pictures don't get saved unintentionally or casually.  There's also a clear personal boundary being articulated through technology.  "I want you to see this now, but not keep it.  Sure, you /could/ go against my wishes, but it's pretty clear I don't want you to. And if you do, it'll be pretty clear you did it intentionally." This technology doesn't exist within a vacuum.  Interpersonal relationships are both the reason it's relevant and the force that makes it work. I don’t think most users are dumb enough to think that there’s no technical way for the picture to be saved.  But unlike with conventional sexting, pictures don’t get saved unintentionally or casually.  There’s also a clear personal boundary being articulated through technology.  “I want you to see this now, but not keep it.  Sure, you /could/ go against my wishes, but it’s pretty clear I don’t want you to. And if you do, it’ll be pretty clear you did it intentionally.”

This technology doesn’t exist within a vacuum.  Interpersonal relationships are both the reason it’s relevant and the force that makes it work.

]]> By: feetleet http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652931 feetleet Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652931 The agency of children is terrifying/inexorable. But burn-after-reading porn is probably the future of ALL porn. Because this type of person also lives on the Internet.... http://boingboing.net/2013/02/04/extortion-sites-in-the-news.html The agency of children is terrifying/inexorable. But burn-after-reading porn is probably the future of ALL porn. Because this type of person also lives on the Internet….

http://boingboing.net/2013/02/04/extortion-sites-in-the-news.html

]]> By: C W http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652916 C W Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652916 It doesn't warn them if you take an entirely separate picture of the screen, naturally. Lossy, but still unsafe. It doesn’t warn them if you take an entirely separate picture of the screen, naturally. Lossy, but still unsafe.

]]> By: C W http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652917 C W Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652917 The "hack" is pretty much the easiest thing in the world. The “hack” is pretty much the easiest thing in the world.

]]> By: agonist http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652907 agonist Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652907 You can take a screenshot and which effectively saves the images. The app warns the sender about this but that will do nothing to make the embarrassing life of the image on the internet less permanent. I don't hate snapchat but I do chose to ignore it. You can take a screenshot and which effectively saves the images. The app warns the sender about this but that will do nothing to make the embarrassing life of the image on the internet less permanent.

I don’t hate snapchat but I do chose to ignore it.

]]> By: EeyoreX http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652898 EeyoreX Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652898 So how long before we get a verb for the activity of hacking the security and posting saved Snapchat pix online? I propose we call it "Snapswapping". As in "OMG my ex just snapswapped me all over 4chan". It's gonna be bigger than planking. So how long before we get a verb for the activity of hacking the security and posting saved Snapchat pix online? I propose we call it “Snapswapping”. As in “OMG my ex just snapswapped me all over 4chan”. It’s gonna be bigger than planking.

]]> By: malika bourne http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652875 malika bourne Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652875 Off with thier heads or something! Off with thier heads or something!

]]> By: CHoldredge http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652867 CHoldredge Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652867 Seems like they're likely to "go away" right after the first major lawsuit over "irretreivably vanished" photos that spread all over the Internet anyhow. This is basically the old DIVX DVD DRM model applied to images. It's at least as futile. I'd write a save-'em-all utility myself, just out of annoyance, but a quick Google makes it clear that there are more than enough people happy to show you how to make your friend's Shapchats permanent. Seems like they’re likely to “go away” right after the first major lawsuit over “irretreivably vanished” photos that spread all over the Internet anyhow. This is basically the old DIVX DVD DRM model applied to images. It’s at least as futile. I’d write a save-’em-all utility myself, just out of annoyance, but a quick Google makes it clear that there are more than enough people happy to show you how to make your friend’s Shapchats permanent.

]]> By: Paul Bruno http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/snapchat-raises-13-5-million.html#comment-1652853 Paul Bruno Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212385#comment-1652853 You Dang Snapchatters, Get Off My Lawn! You Dang Snapchatters, Get Off My Lawn!

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