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	<title>Comments on: Vaccine-resistant whooping cough found in&#160;Philadelphia</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1653772</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s just reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s just reason.</p>
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		<title>By: RayCornwall</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1653743</link>
		<dc:creator>RayCornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAAAAAHHH!! Vaccinators vs. Anti-Vaccinators fight! RUN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAAAAAHHH!! Vaccinators vs. Anti-Vaccinators fight! RUN!</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1653313</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncritical rage directed against anti-vaxxers is the new black!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncritical rage directed against anti-vaxxers is the new black!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Segard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1653278</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Segard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natural Selection at work. The strains of the bacteria that the vaccine is effective on will die off. Those strains that survive will continue to reproduce. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natural Selection at work. The strains of the bacteria that the vaccine is effective on will die off. Those strains that survive will continue to reproduce. </p>
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		<title>By: deepthroatb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1653082</link>
		<dc:creator>deepthroatb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except it&#039;s the over-vaccinating that causes mutant strains to develop more quickly. Nature will always find a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except it&#8217;s the over-vaccinating that causes mutant strains to develop more quickly. Nature will always find a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston Sturges</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1652910</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston Sturges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacteria are good targets for for vaccines.  Some viruses mutate very fast, parasites often have elaborate tricks to avoid the immune system, but bacteria are usually good targets for vaccine. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacteria are good targets for for vaccines.  Some viruses mutate very fast, parasites often have elaborate tricks to avoid the immune system, but bacteria are usually good targets for vaccine. </p>
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		<title>By: Preston Sturges</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1652819</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston Sturges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacteria aren&#039;t &quot;resistant to a vaccine&quot; because  the vaccine doesn&#039;t kill the bacteria.  The vaccine resembles the bacteria, and the body does the killing after it has been primed by the vaccine.  

Presumably, the bacteria are still immunogenic and capable of creating an immune response and being recognized by the immune system.

However, the vaccine is now outdated because it is not a good match to these new strains. The vaccine is not creating an immune response against these new strains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacteria aren&#8217;t &#8220;resistant to a vaccine&#8221; because  the vaccine doesn&#8217;t kill the bacteria.  The vaccine resembles the bacteria, and the body does the killing after it has been primed by the vaccine.  </p>
<p>Presumably, the bacteria are still immunogenic and capable of creating an immune response and being recognized by the immune system.</p>
<p>However, the vaccine is now outdated because it is not a good match to these new strains. The vaccine is not creating an immune response against these new strains.</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1652689</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a clear explanation.
I wonder if its just part of the &quot;normal&quot; mutations that happen in nature, but because we&#039;ve changed the habitat the mutants are surviving and being given a leg up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a clear explanation.<br />
I wonder if its just part of the &#8220;normal&#8221; mutations that happen in nature, but because we&#8217;ve changed the habitat the mutants are surviving and being given a leg up.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, yes anti-vaccine people are a problem when it comes to getting adequate herd immunity in a population. 

However, the problems we are seeing with &lt;i&gt;B. pertussis&lt;/i&gt; are far more complicated than just getting everyone vaccinated.  They are forcing researchers to rethink how they are designing, implementing and monitoring vaccine regimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, yes anti-vaccine people are a problem when it comes to getting adequate herd immunity in a population. </p>
<p>However, the problems we are seeing with <i>B. pertussis</i> are far more complicated than just getting everyone vaccinated.  They are forcing researchers to rethink how they are designing, implementing and monitoring vaccine regimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain George</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1652605</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vaccination for &lt;i&gt;B. pertussis&lt;/i&gt; has moved to an acellular vaccine that includes 2-3 major proteins that are immunogenic (detectable by the immune system) and specific to virulent strains of the bacteria.  The change-over occurred because there are fewer side-effects associated with an acellular vaccine versus a whole-cell vaccine.  If you have journal access, there was a good research article on the state of the &lt;i&gt;B. pertussis&lt;/i&gt; vaccine in the Journal Vaccine ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X09011104 ). 

The problem is children don&#039;t get the same kind of immunity that they would with a whole-cell vaccine as their immune system is only building a response to specific proteins that we have identified as being associated with the virulent bacterium.

What the NEJM letter is indicating is that the specific proteins we target with modern acellular vaccines (namely pertactin) are undergoing selective pressure to either become removed from the bacterium or mutated. This means that the immunity we receive from the vaccine does not necessarily allow our immune systems to detect/target the bacterium.

Research groups are looking at and have added additional proteins specific to &lt;i&gt;B. pertussis&lt;/i&gt; to the current vaccines but whenever we are targeting something specific we are always going to run the risk that the organism we are targeting will mutate to become resistant. Life has a funny way of trying to outsmart us as we solve these problems with novel solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaccination for <i>B. pertussis</i> has moved to an acellular vaccine that includes 2-3 major proteins that are immunogenic (detectable by the immune system) and specific to virulent strains of the bacteria.  The change-over occurred because there are fewer side-effects associated with an acellular vaccine versus a whole-cell vaccine.  If you have journal access, there was a good research article on the state of the <i>B. pertussis</i> vaccine in the Journal Vaccine ( <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X09011104" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X09011104</a> ). </p>
<p>The problem is children don&#8217;t get the same kind of immunity that they would with a whole-cell vaccine as their immune system is only building a response to specific proteins that we have identified as being associated with the virulent bacterium.</p>
<p>What the NEJM letter is indicating is that the specific proteins we target with modern acellular vaccines (namely pertactin) are undergoing selective pressure to either become removed from the bacterium or mutated. This means that the immunity we receive from the vaccine does not necessarily allow our immune systems to detect/target the bacterium.</p>
<p>Research groups are looking at and have added additional proteins specific to <i>B. pertussis</i> to the current vaccines but whenever we are targeting something specific we are always going to run the risk that the organism we are targeting will mutate to become resistant. Life has a funny way of trying to outsmart us as we solve these problems with novel solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Onymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/11/vaccine-resistant-whooping-cou.html#comment-1652594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Onymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you anti-vaccer douchebags for being walking incubators for resistant strains.  You suck. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you anti-vaccer douchebags for being walking incubators for resistant strains.  You suck. </p>
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		<title>By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any word yet on the expected difficulty of reformulating to counter the new strain?

With something like the flu, say, it moves sufficiently fast that they&#039;ve gotten reformulating down to a routine, with the major challenge being guessing the hit strain of the year far enough in advance to start the process.

With other pathogens, years of research have failed to produce a vaccine that works against any flavor of the bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any word yet on the expected difficulty of reformulating to counter the new strain?</p>
<p>With something like the flu, say, it moves sufficiently fast that they&#8217;ve gotten reformulating down to a routine, with the major challenge being guessing the hit strain of the year far enough in advance to start the process.</p>
<p>With other pathogens, years of research have failed to produce a vaccine that works against any flavor of the bug.</p>
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