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	<title>Comments on: California bill to release the state&#039;s building codes online for&#160;free</title>
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		<title>By: Promethean Sky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1656430</link>
		<dc:creator>Promethean Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from a family of electricians, I get to hear all about the graft, cronyism, and vested interests that are behind developing electrical codes in Michigan. You would be shocked, SHOCKED, at the petty shit that goes in because someone stands to make a dollar somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from a family of electricians, I get to hear all about the graft, cronyism, and vested interests that are behind developing electrical codes in Michigan. You would be shocked, SHOCKED, at the petty shit that goes in because someone stands to make a dollar somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1655192</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, maybe Hanlon&#039;s Razor explains those anchors, then, or just some unscrupulous vendors making grandiose claims.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, maybe Hanlon&#8217;s Razor explains those anchors, then, or just some unscrupulous vendors making grandiose claims.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1655025</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Building codes here are very stringent.  At least in SF and Palm Springs.  I don&#039;t particularly think that corruption is a significant issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building codes here are very stringent.  At least in SF and Palm Springs.  I don&#8217;t particularly think that corruption is a significant issue.</p>
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		<title>By: LightningRose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654576</link>
		<dc:creator>LightningRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m more than a bit surprised to learn that Brian Nestande is a Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m more than a bit surprised to learn that Brian Nestande is a Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654466</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my area (mid-Atlantic coast)  products are sold at home supply centers and the like that proudly claim to be compliant with the California Building Code.  The implication is that this code is more stringent due to the famous earthquakes and attendant fires.

However, the local tradesmen claim (and this is &lt;i&gt;pure hearsay&lt;/i&gt;, take it with a healthy dose of salt) that the California regulating authorities are entirely corrupt, and code approval is driven by bribery and/or cronyism, and that many of the &quot;California grade&quot; products are absolute crap.

I myself have used wall anchors for concrete block that were labeled as &quot;California legal&quot; that were terrible - they barely held a wooden shelf up, and only due to the load angle.  You could literally pull them out with your fingers, although I followed all instructions and used the included drill bit.

I would love to hear from some informed folks on the ground in Cali about this.  Is the code approval authority as corrupt as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenes.com/html/feynman.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;school textbook&lt;/a&gt; approval process?  Or is that just a local legend here on the Right Coast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my area (mid-Atlantic coast)  products are sold at home supply centers and the like that proudly claim to be compliant with the California Building Code.  The implication is that this code is more stringent due to the famous earthquakes and attendant fires.</p>
<p>However, the local tradesmen claim (and this is <i>pure hearsay</i>, take it with a healthy dose of salt) that the California regulating authorities are entirely corrupt, and code approval is driven by bribery and/or cronyism, and that many of the &#8220;California grade&#8221; products are absolute crap.</p>
<p>I myself have used wall anchors for concrete block that were labeled as &#8220;California legal&#8221; that were terrible &#8211; they barely held a wooden shelf up, and only due to the load angle.  You could literally pull them out with your fingers, although I followed all instructions and used the included drill bit.</p>
<p>I would love to hear from some informed folks on the ground in Cali about this.  Is the code approval authority as corrupt as the <a href="http://www.greenes.com/html/feynman.html" rel="nofollow">school textbook</a> approval process?  Or is that just a local legend here on the Right Coast?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Malamud</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654441</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Malamud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> We have most of the building codes available for download or as html files here. https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/safety.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> We have most of the building codes available for download or as html files here. <a href="https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/safety.html" rel="nofollow">https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/safety.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dlo Burns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654383</link>
		<dc:creator>Dlo Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becaue at some point in the past some bureaucrat figured an easy way to get money. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becaue at some point in the past some bureaucrat figured an easy way to get money. </p>
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		<title>By: MollyMaguire</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654197</link>
		<dc:creator>MollyMaguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 06:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great. The International Building Code is freely available here:
http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/icod/IC-P-2012-000019.htm
but it has limited searching and printing abilities.
Many cities (maybe most?) make their local amendments available as free downloads. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great. The International Building Code is freely available here:<br />
<a href="http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/icod/IC-P-2012-000019.htm" rel="nofollow">http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/icod/IC-P-2012-000019.htm</a><br />
but it has limited searching and printing abilities.<br />
Many cities (maybe most?) make their local amendments available as free downloads. </p>
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		<title>By: brerrabbit23</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654184</link>
		<dc:creator>brerrabbit23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Beat me to it, though I&#039;d intended to call it the Mickey Mouse Defense Initiative... but yeah.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Beat me to it, though I&#8217;d intended to call it the Mickey Mouse Defense Initiative&#8230; but yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Ewing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654182</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Ewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this a thing?  (I know, I know, I&#039;m not dead).  But, ALL laws and public codes and that kind of stuff should be freely available, for FREE (because PUBLIC).  It is too bad that this has to be news.  Let us hope it catches on.  Feh! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this a thing?  (I know, I know, I&#8217;m not dead).  But, ALL laws and public codes and that kind of stuff should be freely available, for FREE (because PUBLIC).  It is too bad that this has to be news.  Let us hope it catches on.  Feh! </p>
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		<title>By: griever</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654034</link>
		<dc:creator>griever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha finally, after my boss at my last architecture job made a thing about buying me a pdf of the building code as a going away present when I quit :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha finally, after my boss at my last architecture job made a thing about buying me a pdf of the building code as a going away present when I quit :D</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/12/california-bill-to-release-the.html#comment-1654033</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonny Bono. Of the Sonny Bono Copyright Act. Well, they say politics make strange bedfellows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonny Bono. Of the Sonny Bono Copyright Act. Well, they say politics make strange bedfellows.</p>
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